One in five suicides is associated with unemployment

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Every year, around 45,000 people take their own lives because they are out of work or someone close to them is affected by unemployment, as a study by the University of Zurich now reveals. It includes data of 63 countries and demonstrates that during the 2008 economic crisis the number of all suicides associated with unemployment was nine times higher than previously believed.

Unemployment can drive people to suicide. Numerous studies have demonstrated that there is a relationship between unemployment and poor health and that (the threat of) losing a job and prolonged unemployment can constitute a serious situation for those affected as well as their relatives. The debate on this fateful association was reignited by the 2008 economic crisis and the subsequent austerity policies in many countries. While many studies have merely focused on crisis years and examined single countries or one world region, now, for the first time, Carlos Nordt, Ingeborg Warnke, Erich Seifritz and Wolfram Kawohl from the University of Zurich's Psychiatric Hospital have been able to draw a larger picture for four regions in the world from 2000 to 2011. "Every year, around one in five suicides is associated with unemployment," says first author Carlos Nordt.

The study has just been published in the journal The Lancet Psychiatry.

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-0...mployment.html


Job seeker, 21, with 3 A-levels and 10 GCSEs, kills herself after she was rejected for 200 jobs

A bright 21-year-old killed herself after more than 200 unsuccessful job applications.

Vicky Harrison had dreamed of a career as a teacher or a television producer, but gave up hope for the future, her family said yesterday.

A day after her latest rejection, and on the eve of her fortnightly trip to sign on, she wrote heartbreaking notes to her parents and boyfriend saying 'I don't want to be me any more' and took a huge drug overdose.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-200-jobs.html


Los Angeles man kills his 5 children, wife, self

Watching his family's new, two-story home being built in 2001, Ervin Antonio Lupoe appeared to be riding a wave of hope and excitement. He dropped by each week to check the progress, one construction worker recalled.

But in what authorities believe was a gruesome burst of anger after he and his wife lost their jobs, the burly 40-year-old X-ray technician turned that same Wilmington home into a family tomb, officials said Tuesday.

Armed with a handgun, Lupoe evidently roamed room to room starting as early as Monday evening, fatally shooting his wife and five young children -- including two sets of twins.

Early Tuesday, Lupoe faxed a bitter, rambling two-page letter to a local television station blaming his employer for his actions. Though his wife and children were already dead, he also called the station threatening to kill his family, investigators believe. He followed this up with an incongruous call to police saying that he had returned home and that "my whole family has been shot."

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan...ldren-killed28


The Ones We've Lost: The Student Loan Debt Suicides

One evening in 2007, Jan Yoder of Normal, Illinois noticed that her son Jason seemed more despondent than usual. Yoder had been a graduate student in organic chemistry at Illinois State University but after incurring $100,000 in student loan debt, he struggled to find a job in his field. Later that night, Jason, 35, left the family's mobile home. Concerned about her son's mood, Jan Yoder decided in the early morning hours to go look for him on campus, where a professor she ran into joined her in the search. The two of them discovered his body in one of the labs on campus and called campus police at 8:30AM. 32 minutes later, Jason was declared dead due to nitrogen asphyxiation.

When the story was posted on several different sites in 2007 and 2008, the Internet chatter was not always kind to the dead man. While many expressed great sympathy for Yoder and ranted against the student lending system, others were quick to invoke the "personal responsibility" argument -- "it was his fault;" "why did he take out that amount of loans?;" "Mr. Yoder took out those loans . . . he had an obligation to pay them back." -- and denigrate him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/c-cryn...b_1638972.html



I'm surprised I don't see this talked about much.

[kcchiefs6465]

And veterans?

Then those needlessly on psychotropics?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

And veterans?

Then those needlessly on psychotropics?

well I'm sure veterans are just as affected by not being able to get jobs

[kcchiefs6465]

well I'm sure veterans are just as affected by not being able to get jobs

The smell of burnt flesh keeping them up at night might have something to do with it, too.

[Ronin Truth]

I can believe that. I would actually SWAG more.

[oyarde]

Something I have always noticed , before the meds became routine , nearly all suicides I was aware of locally were usually rooted in financial loss or loss of significant other .In order to avoid this for myself , I tried to make sure I always worked and if the wife left , not to be in a hurry to look for another.

[libertarianMoney]

It is weird how these subjects don't come up while so many other smaller killers get tons of attention.

People treat economic problems as if they're not life threatening but it's all linked up. The economy is part of the physical health of people. Things like taxes and unemployment aren't just money concerns. They're attacks on the physical well-being of people. (Poor economic choices can lead to poor nutrition, poor healthcare, excessive stress, and suicides.)

Look at the arguments pro-vaccine supporters make. Their number of deaths claimed is a fraction of those represented by these numbers. Despite that the news constantly brings up this health concern while this other major health concern gets ignored.

Someone close to me killed himself (seemingly) partially for employment reasons. Financial reasons are one of the number one reasons people kill themselves. This is the poor policy death count that can't really be factored in when discussing the consequences of policy.

[Zippyjuan]

Stress can cause suicide. Losing a job is a huge stress. But reading through their study, they did not actually examine the cause reported for individual suicides- they only tracked to see if suicides rose as unemployment rose. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...118-7/abstract Correlation is no necessarily causation.

It also noted:

The best and most stable final model indicated that a higher suicide rate preceded a rise in unemployment (lagged by 6 months) and that the effect was non-linear with higher effects for lower baseline unemployment rates. I

Suicide rates rose BEFORE unemployment rates rose according to their own report- so was rising unemployment the reason for rising suicides (it could certainly have been a factor for some). Their data starts at a low point in US suicide rates (2000). Also to note, most people who commit suicide don't say what straw broke the camel's back so one cannot say for certain why they did it (unless they left a note saying why). You can't say that a certain percent was "caused" by a certain event such as losing a job.


http://www.gcmwatch.com/8827/keller-...n-suicide-hype

[Ronin Truth]

Not to be too dramatic, I was on that road, pretty desperate.

[Ronin Truth]

Stress can cause suicide. Losing a job is a huge stress. But reading through their study, they did not actually examine the cause reported for individual suicides- they only tracked to see if suicides rose as unemployment rose. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...118-7/abstract Correlation is no necessarily causation.

It also noted:



Suicide rates rose BEFORE unemployment rates rose according to their own report- so was rising unemployment the reason for rising suicides (it could certainly have been a factor for some). Their data starts at a low point in US suicide rates (2000).


http://www.gcmwatch.com/8827/keller-...n-suicide-hype

There were factory closings and movings, mass downsizings, out sourcings, off shorings, cheaper labor importings, age discrimination layoffs, tax incentives, government aid (H1-B), blessings, etc. even in the 90's.

Hence the still ongoing government stealth war on the Middle Class.

[oyarde]

Well , bloated Fed govt causes poverty , therefore , also any suicides . LOL , that actually makes more sense than any liberal argument for anything .

[timosman]

Lies, big lies and statistics. The difference is less than 20%. If the lower limit was 0 instead of 9.50 the graph would be almost flat.

[Zippyjuan]

Which is something I point out on Labor Force Participation Rate charts. The "massive crash to 1970's levels" was going from 66% to 63%- really not that much of a move.

[DamianTV]

... all suicides associated with unemployment was nine times higher than previously believed.

But the economy is just fine! Those people who cant find decent jobs are LAZY AND/OR STOOPID! And we wonder why the victims turn against themselves...

But we are also supposed to believe the numbers they put forth? ANY Numbers?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

But the economy is just fine! Those people who cant find decent jobs are LAZY AND/OR STOOPID! And we wonder why the victims turn against themselves...

But we are also supposed to believe the numbers they put forth? ANY Numbers?

and I'm sure the people who say that, especially family members, only help push them over the edge

[enhanced_deficit]

And veterans?

Then those needlessly on psychotropics?

Why suicide rate among veterans may be more than 22 a day
People like Levi Derby, who hanged himself in his grandfather's garage in Illinois on April 5, 2007. He was haunted, says his mother, Judy Casper, by an Afghan child's death.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/21/us/22-...uicides-a-day/

[DamianTV]

Of course if we look at how American Psychology and Phamacology look at the problem, they both see it as a neurochemical imbalance, which means prescriptions out the wazoo, which also means more money for them, which also means the real cause of their depression is misdiagnosed, which means the real cause goes completely untreated. The real cause is a psycho-social disorder where society itself refuses to acknowledge its addiction to war and money cause exceptionally high levels of distress in veterans, and for the unemployed, and the fact that the unemployed literally can not find a job because so few real jobs exist is shifted to and blame placed squarely those who so desperately need not only a job, but a job that provides a positive path towards their identity. Those are the types of jobs that have all but fully disappeared. So many jobs treat humans as robots and are very demeaning. Go shovel your cow $#@! robot while we pay you $#@! wages and treat you like $#@!. That is not a path towards a positive employee identity. This is also exactly what happens when Socialism takes over. Socialism has nothing to do with "what is best for society", its merely another means of a power grab and wealth transferrence and the end result where the value society places on individuals is what society can take from those individuals, and in our version of Socialism, it is becoming more frequent to take the fruits of men's labors, by force and corersion.

Is this what anyone would call a "Healthy Society"?

[nobody's_hero]

According to my math, that means 4 out of 5 are associated with employment.

[Christopher A. Brown]

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-0...mployment.html


Job seeker, 21, with 3 A-levels and 10 GCSEs, kills herself after she was rejected for 200 jobs


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-200-jobs.html


Los Angeles man kills his 5 children, wife, self

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan...ldren-killed28


The Ones We've Lost: The Student Loan Debt Suicides

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/c-cryn...b_1638972.html



I'm surprised I don't see this talked about much.

Americans are in denial of the economic conditions they have been led to accept. GATT and NAFTA have moved jobs to other nations seeking less environmental restrictions and cheaper labor. Americans have been conditioned by media to respond to unconscious social fears induced at childhood and adolescence which keeps them from being able to overcome the false divisions and differences created to prevent their unification which is the only thing effective at reversing the economic conditions imposed through decades of manipulation of the infiltrated American government.

The 1787 constitution and the Declaration of Independence before it provide the basic agreement which is human nature, natural law to participate in which can and will supersede the imposition of artificial division created by psychological manipulations of media of all types. All that is needed is to realize the premise for this agreement IS the framers basic intent, then agree and accept it. The rest is legal process that activists for restoration of the original American republic will undertake in creating our lawful and peaceful revolution.

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

[kahless]

You can attribute it directly to what many Libertarians here support: open borders, mass unrestricted immigration and unregulated trade. You simply cannot compete against slave labor, child labor and lack of environmental laws.

[AuH20]

You can attribute it directly to what many Libertarians here support: open borders, mass unrestricted immigration and unregulated trade. You simply cannot compete against slave labor, child labor and lack of environmental laws.

The Chinese are certainly experts at cutting corners.

[timosman]

The Chinese are certainly experts at cutting corners.

What about fracking ?

[Christopher A. Brown]

You can attribute it directly to what many Libertarians here support: open borders, mass unrestricted immigration and unregulated trade. You simply cannot compete against slave labor, child labor and lack of environmental laws.

You left out the GATT and NAFTA which enabled corporations to take advantage of all of that.

The American promotion of that was primarily a republican. There is no clean distinction between parties, they both suck and are there to divide the vote.

"The 1970s were filled with economic turmoil, mostly spurred by unpredictable fuel prices. It appeared, especially to US and British voters, that the Keynesian economic policies of the past had become obsolete. In 1979, British voters elected Margaret Thatcher as their prime minister, and in 1980 US voters elected Ronald Reagan as their president. Reagan and Thatcher’s election brought the beginning of the end of Keynesian economics, at least in the short term. Both these heads of state turned to the teachings of von Hayek who believed in trade liberalization and the free market economy. In other words, von Hayek preached what we now call "globalization."

Governed by the belief that free markets provided the answer to the economic difficulties experienced in the 1970s, Prime Minister Thatcher, President Reagan and their successors tore down barriers to trade through mechanisms like the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT, which was established in 1948, but substantially reinforced from 1986-1993), "

[enhanced_deficit]

For now, let's find out where is Cecil's brother.

ddg's masters got game.