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  1. #61
    Who's poopin' in the kale patch?



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  3. #62
    I'm still around and kicking after my kale dinner.

    Great stuff!

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    Kale: The toxic truth! How our obsession with the leafy greens could lead to bloated bellies, thyroid problems and even KIDNEY STONES

    By Toni Jones
    Published: 02:05 EST, 30 July 2015

    Did you know that all those green leaves you are spending so much of your salary on could actually be causing you more harm than good?

    Kale, the world's trendiest vegetable thanks to the PR firm it hired a few years ago, is actually not as great for you as they want you to believe.

    Here, yoga and wellness guru Lauren Imparato, who runs I.AM.YOU.Studio in New York, reveals three reasons why...

    WHY KALE ISN'T COOL...

    1.KALE IS ONE OF THE HARDEST VEGETABLES TO DIGEST

    It does to your insides what a cactus does to your skin when you rub up against it.

    Eating it in mass quantities and raw, as we are all doing in salads and juices nowadays, makes the problem even worse. By problem I am referring to that abdominal pooch, what I call 'Alien Baby': bloating, stomach, and/or gas. It is uncomfortable, and probably from the kale.

    2. BEWARE KIDNEY STONES

    As a high oxalate food, it can lead to kidney stones. As a lover of leafy green vegetables, I am by no means saying not to eat them, but they can lead to build ups which then turn into kidney stones.

    3. AND A SLUGGISH METABOLIC SYSTEM

    Kale can affect your thyroid, the gland at the base of the neck that regulates metabolic process.

    The vegetable contains goitrogens, which can cause the gland to enlarge by interfering with thyroid hormone synthesis, generally called hypothyroidism, or an under active thyroid.

    Continued...
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  5. #64
    I am glad the kale era is over.



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    I eat kale salads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Kale: The toxic truth! How our obsession with the leafy greens could lead to bloated bellies, thyroid problems and even KIDNEY STONES

    By Toni Jones
    Published: 02:05 EST, 30 July 2015

    Did you know that all those green leaves you are spending so much of your salary on could actually be causing you more harm than good?

    Kale, the world's trendiest vegetable thanks to the PR firm it hired a few years ago, is actually not as great for you as they want you to believe.

    Here, yoga and wellness guru Lauren Imparato, who runs I.AM.YOU.Studio in New York, reveals three reasons why...

    WHY KALE ISN'T COOL...

    1.KALE IS ONE OF THE HARDEST VEGETABLES TO DIGEST

    It does to your insides what a cactus does to your skin when you rub up against it.

    Eating it in mass quantities and raw, as we are all doing in salads and juices nowadays, makes the problem even worse. By problem I am referring to that abdominal pooch, what I call 'Alien Baby': bloating, stomach, and/or gas. It is uncomfortable, and probably from the kale.

    2. BEWARE KIDNEY STONES

    As a high oxalate food, it can lead to kidney stones. As a lover of leafy green vegetables, I am by no means saying not to eat them, but they can lead to build ups which then turn into kidney stones.

    3. AND A SLUGGISH METABOLIC SYSTEM

    Kale can affect your thyroid, the gland at the base of the neck that regulates metabolic process.

    The vegetable contains goitrogens, which can cause the gland to enlarge by interfering with thyroid hormone synthesis, generally called hypothyroidism, or an under active thyroid.

    Continued...
    http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/...kidney-stones/

    KALE SHEDS BUM RAP ON KIDNEY STONES

    Kale is one of America’s current health food crazes. Studies show the trendy veggie is exceptionally rich in nutrients, antioxidants and other cancer fighting properties.

    But now some critics are warning the ubiquitous leafy green super food may pose a risk. Website articles and health gurus are warning that eating too much kale can cause kidney stones.


    Fear not! Those claims are baseless, according to University of Chicago kidney specialist Dr. Fredric Coe, a professor of medicine who built and has run the university’s kidney stone prevention center for 45 years.

    “Kale offers all the benefits of dark green vegetable but it ranks really low in oxalate,” said Coe. “There’s only 17 milligrams of oxalate in a hundred grams (about 3 ounces) of kale.”

    “So in every three ounces of kale you get nothing” in terms of oxalate, added Coe. “Essentially, it’s about impossible to eat enough of kale to cause kidney stones.”

    Oxalate in higher concentrations is linked to a chemical cascade that can result in kidney stones.

    Oxalate

    So what is oxalate? Oxalate is a molecule that’s a waste product of metabolism. Plants use it to store energy. All the physical and chemical processes in the body that use energy – for example breathing or digestion – need oxalate, according to the National Institutes of Health website.

    So why is oxalate a problem? Even though our bodies need oxalate, the foods we eat that are high in it can cause kidney stones.

    But kale is not one of those foods
    . According to Coe, it just resembles another green food that’s dark in color. “Kale gets a bad rep because of the way it looks,” said Coe. “It looks like spinach and spinach has an enormous amount of oxalate.”

    So how much oxalate is in spinach? “Spinach has hundreds of milligrams…hundreds in a single serving,” said Coe. “If you eat a lot of it, yes, you can get kidney stones.”

    Spinach Concerns

    So kale is off the hook: it only contains 17 milligrams of oxalate to spinach’s hundreds of milligrams of oxalate. Spinach and other dark green leafy vegetables like Swiss chard are oxalate dense vegetables. These green foods, although with healthy benefits, are the ones to be concerned about over-consuming. Coe says you can find a list of vegetables that’s high in oxalate at Harvard Medical School.

    So why is kale so good for us? It contains micronutrients, vitamins and lots of fiber. Jill Harris, certified health coach, says fiber is really important.

  9. #67
    Potential health risk of consuming kale: "Beta-blockers, a type of medication most commonly prescribed for heart disease, can cause potassium levels to increase in the blood. High potassium foods such as bananas and cooked kale should be consumed in moderation when taking beta-blockers."

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/arti...435.php?page=2

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by alivecream View Post
    Potential health risk of consuming kale: "Beta-blockers, a type of medication most commonly prescribed for heart disease, can cause potassium levels to increase in the blood. High potassium foods such as bananas and cooked kale should be consumed in moderation when taking beta-blockers."

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/arti...435.php?page=2
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/54...ssium-in-kale/

    A 100 gram serving of boiled, drained and lightly salted kale contains 228 milligrams of potassium, according to the USDA National Nutrient Database. The same amount of raw kale contains 447 milligrams per 100 grams. Much of the potassium is lost to the cooking water during the boiling process. Unfortunately, raw kale often tastes tough and chewy. Steaming or stir-frying kale helps to retain more potassium in the leaves and softens the leaf for eating.

    The average healthy adult should aim for 4,700 milligrams, or 4.7 grams, of potassium from food each day, according to Colorado State University Extension. So, a small serving of kale provides between 5 and 10 percent of your daily potassium needs. As a comparison, 100 grams of roasted chicken breast with the skin left on contains 245 milligrams of potassium, significantly less than raw kale, though slightly more than boiled kale.
    So about ten to twenty servings of kale can give you your daily allowances. Probably not going to interfere with your beta blockers.

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/54...ssium-in-kale/

    So about ten to twenty servings of kale can give you your daily allowances. Probably not going to interfere with your beta blockers.
    uhm, but who the hell boils kale? Steamed? sure, sautéed, or raw, yeah. I've NEVER heard of somebody boiling kale. Or course you are going to lose a bunch of nutrients from boiling.

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