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Do you think Obama would have been elected if he ran on the same messages and actions he's done since he's been president?Originally Posted by wizardwatson
Can you name any president that hasn't broken his campaign promises? They all reveal their true colors once in office, our only concern is if Rand's colors are still pure (or if they'll even let him actually enact anything). Him playing the game doesn't tell us anything about those questions.
There is an art to speaking to biased audiences, and the first step is usually to find common ground; Because if your goal is to change minds, then you aren't going to do it until their bias is alleviated and they will actually listen to what you have to say... Otherwise they will just be trying to find reason to confirm their pre-existing bias. Removing that is the first step to getting someone to see it your way.
Thus, to suggest that Rand playing the game means that he will never get the opportunity to tackle bigger issues, that simply doesn't follow. You have to agree before they accept and listen to disagreement.
He fights battles he can win while spoonfeeding the rest, so he can hopefully then actually represent the will of the people in a positive direction. That is how you create real change, not by painting yourself in a corner of unpopular opinion. That doesn't change many minds, it only reinforces their bias.
What matters is that we have no reason to believe that Rand has been bought by the powerful interests yet. That is what would compromise his ideals, not him strategizing how to get a world to accept liberty that doesn't want it yet.
I wish more of you could see that; That you may disagree with the tactics, but that he can still be working towards good.
I'd rather be a free man in my grave, than be living as a puppet or a slave - Peter Tosh
The kids they dance and shake their bones,
While the politicians are throwing stones,
And it's all too clear we're on our own,
Singing ashes, ashes, all fall down...
$100 Million to Sink Iran Peace Effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfg6Z0nXzrU
h/t Daniel McAdams: https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...ng-supporters/
Iran Deal's Surprising Supporters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERihbMEKcUo
h/t Daniel McAdams @ LRC: https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...schumer-wrong/
Rabbis for Iran Deal - Is Schumer Wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZf7sT-CsdM
I don't read articles attributed to 'Ron Paul' anymore. I only watch the man himself speak.
Last edited by devil21; 08-20-2015 at 01:17 AM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Interesting video clip . . . thanks.
It must be the September 1999 agreement . . . here's a great North Korea Nuclear/NPT timeline from Reagan debate co-sponsor CNN -
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/world/...---fast-facts/
JBS CEO Art Thompson discusses how Iran is nothing more than a surrogate of communist Russia; how the P5+1 nations that negotiated the Iran deal were represented by “ex-communists,” communists, and New-World-Order-crowd Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) members; how 60 prominent former U.S. government officials (who are almost to a man and woman CFR members) have endorsed the Iran deal; how the U.S. has never had an enemy since WWII that wasn’t created, trained, and armed by the U.S. government; and how the Iran deal is part of the package of international socialism that is being sold to the American people as a good deal.
http://www.jbs.org/home/iran-deal-co...ld-order-crowd
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
Well the JBS definitely received some of that donor money, lol.
What the heck does the Iran deal have to do with Comunism, that is a hilarious stretch!
"Freedom, then Pizza!" - Oklahoma State GOP Convention 5/11/2012
From who, do you think?
wizardwatson's post was quoted in an article at the Washington Post website: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...for-rand-paul/
"There is no magic point where Rand gets to stop doing it like this," sighed a commenter called Wizard Watson in a long RonPaulForums thread. "That's why I get so frustrated with this. It's like everyone who supports him 'no matter what' is looking forward to some future PSYCHE! moment. It doesn't work like that, folks."
The Bastiat Collection ˇ FREE PDF ˇ FREE EPUB ˇ PAPER Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)
- "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
-- The Law (p. 54)- "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
-- Government (p. 99)- "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
-- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)- "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
-- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)ˇ tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ˇ
wizardwatson is spot on. Its why I argue Rand Paul supporters should get with the Rand Paul program if he is there man: believe and defend his positions. Then court the evangelicals. My congressman sold out on the Iran deal too
I guess I just don't vote.
Former CIA Analyst Paul Pillar on the Iran deal drama: http://nationalinterest.org/blog/pau...pter-two-13752
I think the deal is good. Israel's military thinks its good: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/...iran-deal.html
Part of our own elite thinks its a good deal. J Street supports it. The ones that dislike it are either crazy or owned by the Likud Lobby. The deal doesn't mean that the US will not have a nutcase for a President (most likely) who will attack Iran because there is money to be made from war profiteering and because at least one old billionaire bribed them to do it. The rest of the world would just see another act of unilateral aggression by a puppet who is owned by the shadow government.
I'm not sure what I was "spot on" about unless you mean the part about a snowball's chance in hell of this not going through.wizardwatson is spot on. Its why I argue Rand Paul supporters should get with the Rand Paul program if he is there man: believe and defend his positions. Then court the evangelicals. My congressman sold out on the Iran deal too
I guess I just don't vote.
Former CIA Analyst Paul Pillar on the Iran deal drama: http://nationalinterest.org/blog/pau...pter-two-13752
I think the deal is good. Israel's military thinks its good: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/...iran-deal.html
Part of our own elite thinks its a good deal. J Street supports it. The ones that dislike it are either crazy or owned by the Likud Lobby. The deal doesn't mean that the US will not have a nutcase for a President (most likely) who will attack Iran because there is money to be made from war profiteering and because at least one old billionaire bribed them to do it. The rest of the world would just see another act of unilateral aggression by a puppet who is owned by the shadow government.
Anyway, today I think sealed the deal. September 17th was the due date and the democrats blocked disapproval from even coming to a vote.
Man, if only we could have seen this coming. Oh wait, Republicans voted unanimously practically in favor of these rules which ensured it wouldn't come to a vote.
When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6
You are spot on that Rand Paul is going to have to stand by the positions he makes.
Its not over yet: http://www.lobelog.com/next-hurdle-f...orsed-by-post/
JBS was a group I once took seriously and now cringe thinking about.
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