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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    My guess is that gay celebrity trumps racist. Unless Morgan Freeman or Kanye West decides to jump into the fray.
    So, off topic here, but somebody help me out, because I am, really, so hopelessly out of touch with things of this sort...

    Is it "Cain" or "Kahn-yay"?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So, off topic here, but somebody help me out, because I am, really, so hopelessly out of touch with things of this sort...

    Is it "Cain" or "Kahn-yay"?
    Who cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Who cares?
    Meh, I was just curious.

    ETA - Comes now a rep comment:

    The latter. Two syllables. More like, 'Can ye?' though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Meh, I was just curious.
    I don't have the foggiest idea, I've only seen the name in print.

    I say it Cain in my head when I read it though...

    Like Qui Chang Caine


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So, off topic here, but somebody help me out, because I am, really, so hopelessly out of touch with things of this sort...

    Is it "Cain" or "Kahn-yay"?
    The latter.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    Most slaves were never whipped....many where treated well, in spite of all these propagandized films from Hollyweird claiming otherwise.
    You're adorable.

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    If they were treated so badly, then why did most slaves elect to stick around the plantation after slavery was abolished?

    - neg rep coming
    Last edited by DFF; 07-05-2015 at 03:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    If they were treated so badly, then why did most slaves elect to stick around the plantation after slavery was abolished?

    - neg rep coming
    Because they were "institutionalized", the same way that long time convicts in prison are.

    If that was the only world you ever knew, most people would not be willing to leave it behind, even if it was under slave conditions.

    ETA - $#@! me, now that I think about it, that's almost all of us, myself included, in or out of prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    If they were treated so badly, then why did most slaves elect to stick around the plantation after slavery was abolished?

    - neg rep coming
    Seriously dude, I can't believe you said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Seriously dude, I can't believe you said that.
    I'm not suggesting that being a slave was a wonderful existence (although it was better than the alternative of not having a job and starving to death).
    Just pointing out that owners didn't typically beat them, for the same reason farmers don't typically beat their horses.
    This would be bad for business.
    But if you watch 12 years a Slave or Roots, you would get the false impression that slave owners beat the crap out of them 24/7.
    When this just wasn't the case.
    Last edited by DFF; 07-05-2015 at 09:18 PM.

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    Did you watch "12 Years a Slave"? He had more than one master who treated him reasonably okay. He was bounced around/hired out / sold a lot though, and some of the overseers and one master were indeed cruel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    If they were treated so badly, then why did most slaves elect to stick around the plantation after slavery was abolished?

    - neg rep coming
    Because:

    1) As AF said, they were institutionalized.

    2) They had no means to move to a new place. Where would they have gone, and how would they have gathered up the money to afford to go there? Within the US, only the South had the need for such a huge number of unskilled workers, which is why slavery was profitable there in the first place.

    3) They were intentionally uneducated, and had no marketable skills aside from those they'd been trained in.

    4) Although they were technically free, they would remain under an extremely oppressive set of laws for another 100 years.

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    “He is a clown in blackface sitting on the Supreme Court. He gets me that angry,” Takei told KSAZ-TV, visibly flustered as he railed against the African American justice. ”For him to say slaves had dignity … I mean, doesn’t he know slaves were chained? That they were whipped on the back?”
    I wonder how much dignity there is in getting homosexually groped after passing out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I wonder how much dignity there is in getting homosexually groped after passing out?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-Model-in-1981
    I don't know if it is true or not but it is good to see Takei getting some of his own medicine. He has always been quick to condemn others that are not of his political perversion with little or no evidence.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I don't know if it is true or not but it is good to see Takei getting some of his own medicine. He has always been quick to condemn others that are not of his political perversion with little or no evidence.
    Exactamundo.

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    The corollary of that principle is that human dignity cannot be taken away by the government. Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.”
    I remember this now. Nobody actually read the argument Thomas made. If they had, they would have understood his thesis condemned slavery of any kind to it's core: that negroes were inherently disadvantaged by nature, and the white man's burden was to lift his lesser brother-man up from their savage ways.

    You still see relics of The White Man's Burden in progressivism, chiefly because the black population were their first social experiment. The plantation vote is so secure, progs have moved onto identity politics instead, and pay the blacks no particular attention except to wield them in elections like virtue shields: impervious to criticism because racism.
    They fought the Wars
    They lost.
    They turned friends
    into enemies.
    Who became
    friends of our enemies.
    They stood alone, in splendid isolation,
    And said it was their only choice.

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    So, homosexuality trumps racism?

    Reminds me of a time at a place I worked. One of the workers had done something negligible by law. I had to write it up and turn it over to state but the reply from one of their associates was "but he's gay". To which I replied. What does that have to do with them breaking the law? As though somehow the action was excusable due to a person being gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    So, homosexuality trumps racism?

    Reminds me of a time at a place I worked. One of the workers had done something negligible by law. I had to write it up and turn it over to state but the reply from one of their associates was "but he's gay". To which I replied. What does that have to do with them breaking the law? As though somehow the action was excusable due to a person being gay.
    There seems to be this weird, new stupid going around that gays can't molest or be molested. I ask these naive tools: how do you think so many young homosexuals are discovering their sexuality? Many "discover" themselves at an age sex is technically statutory.
    Last edited by Raginfridus; 11-12-2017 at 03:17 PM.
    They fought the Wars
    They lost.
    They turned friends
    into enemies.
    Who became
    friends of our enemies.
    They stood alone, in splendid isolation,
    And said it was their only choice.

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    Not just a "racist," according to Mr. Sulu. But a "racist bigot!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    There seems to be this weird, new stupid going around that gays can't molest or be molested. I ask these naive tools: how do you think so many young homosexuals are discovering their sexuality? Many "discover" themselves at an age sex is technically statutory.
    I think your on to something here. This Inane Noeveau is a social symptom of just how entrenched and ingrained political correctness is and has taken us down that dark road of double standard morality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    There seems to be this weird, new stupid going around that gays can't molest or be molested. I ask these naive tools: how do you think so many young homosexuals are discovering their sexuality? Many "discover" themselves at an age sex is technically statutory.
    I don't think I can stand too many more new flavors of stupid.

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