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    Woman who died of measles WAS vaccinated: First patient to die of disease in U.S. for 12 years

    Woman who died of measles WAS vaccinated: First patient to die of disease in U.S. for 12 years succumbed to disease because of other health problems

    By Associated Press Reporter
    3 July 2015

    A woman who became the first person to die of the measles in the U.S. in 12 years had been vaccinated against the disease, it has been revealed.

    Health officials said she had the injection as a child but succumbed because she had a compromised immune system.

    Dr. Jeanette Stehr-Green, the Clallam County health officer, told KOMO-TV the woman had been vaccinated as a child, but because she had other health problems and was taking medications that interfered with her response to an infection 'she was not protected.'

    The female patient, who passed away in the spring, lacked some of the measles' common symptoms, such as a rash, so the infection was not discovered until an autopsy, Washington State Department of Health spokesman Donn Moyer said.

    This is the 11th case of measles in Washington - and the sixth in Clallam County - this year, Moyer said.

    Measles is highly contagious and spreads when an infected person breathes, coughs or sneezes. However, dying from it is extremely rare, Moyer said.

    Officials didn't say whether the woman was vaccinated, but they did note she had a compromised immune system. They withheld her age to protect her identity but said she was not elderly.

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    Which means the vaccine failed. Because nobody credible has ever claimed a 100% success rate, the only reason for screeching about this would be shilling for the killing of babies and sick people.

    This is the perfect liberal outcome. Death of the weak by an entirely preventable disease saves Obamacare dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Which means the vaccine failed.
    She was immunocompromised / immunosuppressed.

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    “[W]hereas natural measles exposure generally left the person with reliable lifelong immunity, measles vaccines leave the individual with waning immunity,” adds IMCV. “This dynamic of waning immunity means we will probably see measles epidemics even in highly vaccinated populations.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Because nobody credible has ever claimed a 100% success rate... Death of the weak by an entirely preventable disease...
    Que?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    She was immunocompromised / immunosuppressed.
    This would only hold relevance in cases where the patient lacked prior vaccination. Otherwise, the point of vaccinating becomes all together moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    This would only hold relevance in cases where the patient lacked prior vaccination. Otherwise, the point of vaccinating becomes all together moot.
    With a compromised immune system the body is not able to defend itself against diseases it would normally be able to fend off easily. The woman did not have a full- blown case of measles either. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7716896.html

    The woman lacked some of the measles' common symptoms, such as a rash, so the infection was not discovered until an autopsy, Washington State Department of Health spokesman Donn Moyer said.
    They withheld her age to protect her identity but said she was not elderly.

    The woman was hospitalized for several health conditions in the spring at a facility in Clallam County, which covers the northern part of the Olympic Peninsula. She was there at the same time as a person who later developed a rash and was contagious for measles, Moyer said. That's when the woman most likely was exposed.

    She was on medications that contributed to her weakened immune system, he said.

    After being treated in Clallam County, the woman was moved to the University of Washington Medical Center in Seattle, where she died. An autopsy concluded the cause of death was pneumonia due to measles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    This would only hold relevance in cases where the patient lacked prior vaccination. Otherwise, the point of vaccinating becomes all together moot.
    With a compromised immune system the body is not able to defend itself against diseases it would normally be able to fend off easily. The woman did not have a full- blown case of measles either. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7716896.html

    The woman lacked some of the measles' common symptoms, such as a rash, so the infection was not discovered until an autopsy, Washington State Department of Health spokesman Donn Moyer said.
    They withheld her age to protect her identity but said she was not elderly.

    The woman was hospitalized for several health conditions in the spring at a facility in Clallam County, which covers the northern part of the Olympic Peninsula. She was there at the same time as a person who later developed a rash and was contagious for measles, Moyer said. That's when the woman most likely was exposed.

    She was on medications that contributed to her weakened immune system, he said.

    After being treated in Clallam County, the woman was moved to the University of Washington Medical Center in Seattle, where she died. An autopsy concluded the cause of death was pneumonia due to measles.



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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    ...nobody credible has ever claimed a 100% success rate

    ...entirely preventable disease...
    Well, wait a minute... which is it?

    Sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Which means the vaccine failed. Because nobody credible has ever claimed a 100% success rate, the only reason for screeching about this would be shilling for the killing of babies and sick people.

    This is the perfect liberal outcome. Death of the weak by an entirely preventable disease saves Obamacare dollars.
    What in the f*** are you smoking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    With a compromised immune system the body is not able to defend itself against diseases it would normally be able to fend off easily. The woman did not have a full- blown case of measles either. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7716896.html
    That's all you got? Weaksauce, man.

    The bolded parts don't even soften the blow to the provaxx camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Well, wait a minute... which is it?

    Sheesh.
    It is entirely preventable by herd immunity. If everyone around the woman had been vaccinated she would not have been exposed.

    The anti-vax idiots always wail "Why do you care if my kids are vaxxed?" This death illustrates that the answer they always get and ignore is accurate.
    Last edited by angelatc; 07-05-2015 at 09:25 AM.

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    Herd immunity can also be improved simply by improving the health of people. If people are more aware of the benefits of good nutrition, sunlight, clean water, cleanliness, that also improves herd immunity.

    Trying to impose one's preferred method of herd immunity is authoritarian. Everyone has a right to make their health decisions for themselves, and they're not even obligated to explain such private personal decisions to others.

    If your method to protect your health requires everyone to think the same and conform to just one idea (let alone one which can cause bad effects and death in some people), then it would probably be a good idea for you to try to come up with better approaches to protect your health.
    Last edited by jj-; 07-05-2015 at 09:36 AM.

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    With a weakened immune system she could also have died from the common cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    It is entirely preventable by herd immunity. If everyone around the woman had been vaccinated she would not have been exposed.

    The anti-vax idiots always wail "Why do you care if my kids are vaxxed?" This death illustrates that the answer they always get and ignore is accurate.

    I wonder if you would feel the same way were, God forbid, your children to die from vaccinations.

    All this aside, there is no morally valid basis for forcing vaccinations, as they will now be doing in CA. Life is risk. Don't like the risk? Shoot yourself and be free of it all. (not YOU personally... Jesus... YOU as in "you all mofos out there")
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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    Herd immunity can also be improved simply by improving the health of people.
    The rise of proper sanitation including and perhaps especially that of sewers, has done more to stem disease than all the vaccines ever administered put together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    I wonder if you would feel the same way were, God forbid, your children to die from vaccinations.

    All this aside, there is no morally valid basis for forcing vaccinations, as they will now be doing in CA. Life is risk. Don't like the risk? Shoot yourself and be free of it all. (not YOU personally... Jesus... YOU as in "you all mofos out there")
    How many children a year die from vaccinations?

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    Wow, I guess vaccines didn't help her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Wow, I guess vaccines didn't help her.
    Until her overall health and immunity was weakened, they did help her. Perhaps she was undergoing cheomo (they don't say other than medicines she was given had weakened her health)?

    She was on medications that contributed to her weakened immune system, he said.
    Such people can be put at risk by those who don't vaccinate and get infected. They can spread it to those without the ability to defend themselves. That can include the sick, the elderly, or those too young to have been vaccinated yet (babies).
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 07-05-2015 at 04:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    How many children a year die from vaccinations?
    Good question. How many children a year are saved by vaccinations? We may never know, but feel free to keep calling it settled science if you so choose.
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    That is actually part of the problem. We have become accustomed to seeing the success of vaccines and some are starting to assume we don't need them these days. Afterall, hardly anybody gets it anymore. Kinda like if you are given antibiotics for an illness. You feel good so you think you don't need them anymore. But there is still some in your body. Stop and it could come back again. Or it could then mutate into an antibiotic resistant form. If you take it until the problem is eliminated, then you can stop completely.

    But we do have an example. India. http://www.cdc.gov/Mmwr/Preview/Mmwrhtml/Mm6038a4.Htm

    In 2005, an estimated 92,000 deaths occurred in India from measles among children aged <5 years (1). Estimates from 2008 indicate that 77% of global measles mortality was attributable to measles deaths in the World Health Organization (WHO) South-East Asia Region, the majority of which occurred in India (2,3). These figures highlight the importance of India in attaining regional and global measles mortality reduction targets. In 2008, the Indian National Technical Advisory Group on Immunization (NTAGI) recommended introduction of a second dose of measles-containing vaccine (MCV2), delivered through routine vaccination in states with ≥80% coverage with the first dose of measles-containing vaccine (MCV1), or through mass vaccination campaigns in states with <80% MCV1 coverage. Based on these recommendations, the government of India initiated MCV2 introduction in late 2010. This report provides an update on MCV1 coverage, progress in implementing MCV2, and measles outbreak surveillance activities conducted in eight states during 2006--2010. India has initiated implementation of a measles mortality reduction strategy, but the pace of implementation is variable across states. Strong national and state leadership and commitment to rapid reduction of measles mortality are essential to achieve the full benefits of this strategy.
    92,000 children dead as recently as 2005- that does not include any deaths in people over the age of five so actual death toll was higher- surely over 100,000 dying a year. Then they started a massive vaccination campaign. No improvements in water supplies or hygene or new toilets or nutrition ("If you just eat well and wash your hands you will never get sick")- those conditions still suck for many Indians.

    How many died just five years later? Another 92,000 (since "vaccines don't really help")?

    During 2010, a total of 242 suspected outbreaks were investigated, and 198 (82%) were laboratory-confirmed as measles (Figure 3). Among 8,984 measles patients from laboratory-confirmed outbreaks, 7% were aged <1 year, 41% were aged 1--4 years, 37% were aged 5--9 years, and 15% were aged ≥10 years.
    Just 9,000 cases- not deaths. And that is in a country of 1.2 BILLION people. An incredibly huge change in measles over a very short period of time. Again- no improved nutrition or hygene but vaccines. So yes, we do have evidence that vaccines work.

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/...s_20130117/en/
    17 JANUARY 2013 | GENEVA - The number of measles deaths globally decreased by 71% between 2000 and 2011, from 542 000 to 158 000. Over the same period, new cases dropped 58% from 853 500 in 2000 to 355 000 in 2011, according to new data released Thursday by WHO, a leading member of the Measles and Rubella Initiative. Although the WHO Region of the Americas1 has sustained measles elimination since 2002, and the WHO Western Pacific Region2 is on track to achieve elimination, large outbreaks of measles are jeopardizing progress in the remaining regions that have these goals.

    Success of vaccination coverage

    WHO recommends that every child receive two doses of measles vaccine3. The new data, published in this week’s edition of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report and then in WHO’s Weekly Epidemiological Record, show overall progress in reducing deaths is linked largely to increased vaccination coverage.

    Estimated global coverage with a first dose of vaccine increased from 72% in 2000 to 84% in 2011. The number of countries providing the second dose through routine services increased from 97 in 2000 to 141 in 2011. Since 2000, with support from the Measles & Rubella Initiative, more than 1 billion children have been reached through mass vaccination campaigns ― about 225 million of them in 2011.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 07-05-2015 at 05:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    That is actually part of the problem. We have become accustomed to seeing the success of vaccines and some are starting to assume we don't need them these days. Afterall, hardly anybody gets it anymore. Kinda like if you are given antibiotics for an illness. You feel good so you think you don't need them anymore. But there is still some in your body. Stop and it could come back again. Or it could then mutate into an antibiotic resistant form. If you take it until the problem is eliminated, then you can stop completely.

    But we do have an example. India. http://www.cdc.gov/Mmwr/Preview/Mmwrhtml/Mm6038a4.Htm



    92,000 children dead as recently as 2005- that does not include any deaths in people over the age of five so actual death toll was higher- surely over 100,000 dying a year. Then they started a massive vaccination campaign. No improvements in water supplies or hygene or new toilets or nutrition ("If you just eat well and wash your hands you will never get sick")- those conditions still suck for many Indians.

    How many died just five years later? Another 92,000 (since "vaccines don't really help")?



    Just 9,000 cases- not deaths. And that is in a country of 1.2 BILLION people. An incredibly huge change in measles over a very short period of time. Again- no improved nutrition or hygene but vaccines. So yes, we do have evidence that vaccines work.

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/...s_20130117/en/
    And if you tell a lie over and over people will begin to believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    Herd immunity can also be improved simply by improving the health of people. If people are more aware of the benefits of good nutrition, sunlight, clean water, cleanliness, that also improves herd immunity.

    Trying to impose one's preferred method of herd immunity is authoritarian. Everyone has a right to make their health decisions for themselves, and they're not even obligated to explain such private personal decisions to others.

    If your method to protect your health requires everyone to think the same and conform to just one idea (let alone one which can cause bad effects and death in some people), then it would probably be a good idea for you to try to come up with better approaches to protect your health.
    Herd immunity is just a theory and never been proved.

    The Deadly Impossibility Of Herd Immunity Through Vaccination
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    I had the measles. Still here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    How many children a year die from vaccinations?

    The real question how many children die from vaccines that the medical industrial complex will admit that vaccines are the cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    The real question how many children die from vaccines that the medical industrial complex will admit that vaccines are the cause.
    Or are injured.
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    With about 300 million vaccinated people in this country surely you can find a lot of them if it is really a problem. If one percent are harmed, you should be able to find three million. OK- not all may be reported. Try one million. Or 100,000. With that many to choose from, it should be easy to find them. How many can you come up with? "They are hiding" doesn't work. If you are convinced there is harm, show it. How many? What percent of vaccinated people? Why aren't they there if vaccines are so harmful as some make them sound?

    Of course cause and effect need to be shown. An event following a vaccine is not necessarily caused by the vaccine- as the VAERS list notes. Go to a doctor and get a measles vaccine. In the waiting room you encounter somebody with the flu. Following your vaccination, you develop flu symptoms. Does that mean you measles vaccine caused the flu?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 07-05-2015 at 09:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Until her overall health and immunity was weakened, they did help her.
    So the measles vaccine helped her until she died of measles, excellent. Sounds like a wonderful thing.
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    A vaccine stimulates your body to create its own set of tools to fight against a virus. A person with a compromised immune system no longer has those tools or at least they are no longer strong enough to fight off attacks. Kinda like being in an army unit. You have plenty of weapons to fight enemies. Until your ammo depot got taken out. Now it is much easier for your enemy to over-run you. Does not mean all your weapons were useless before they got destroyed. But that sure makes it much harder for you to fight anybody now. Until her immune system was compromised, yes- she was protected. After the compromise she would also be vulnerable to a whole host of potential infections. Measles happened to be the one she got hit with.

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    The female patient, who passed away in the spring, lacked some of the measles' common symptoms, such as a rash, so the infection was not discovered until an autopsy

    The data show a highly significant correlation between lack of measles exanthema [rash] and auto-immune diseases, seborrhoeic skin diseases, degenerative diseases of the bones and certain tumors . . . We think that the rash is caused by a cell mitigated immune reaction, which destroys the cells infected with the measles virus. If this is correct, the missing exanthema may indicate that intracellular virus components have escaped neutralization during the acute infection. This may later lead to the aforementioned diseases . . . The presence of specific antibodies at the time of infection interferes with the normal immune response against the measles virus, in particular with the development of the specific cell mitigated immunity (and/or cytotoxic reactions). The intracellular measles virus can then survive the acute infection and cause diseases manifesting in the adult age. [8]

    In other words, suppressing the measles rash and fever, which may have seemed like a good idea at the time, interfered with the normal immune response. Interfering with the body’s immune response, in attempt to compensate for a worse vaccine reaction, may have resulted in future problems in the adults that received this treatment. The use of immune serum globulin was recommended to be discontinued in 1968, but continued long after that. [9] This practice continues to this day.

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