A photo for those who equate Palestinian occupation to Apartheid

[heavenlyboy34]

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Three, that is three. Yea that justifies killing thousands?

But wait...

http://nodisinfo.com/mossad-fakes-is...-palestinians/

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Danke again.

Someone +rep my brother danke, plz.

[heavenlyboy34]

Yet another lie. Palestine invaded Israel and promised to kick out every Jew BEFORE any Jewish crimes in the 1948 war, the Arabs started this. Furthermore, every Muslim-majority country ever has oppressed infidels under Sharia law. But obviously you have no idea why Sharia law means, or else you wouldn't idiotically equate it with individual Jews following Jewish law. Sharia law means executing ppl for criticizing or leaving Islam, Sharia law means Muslim (and male) testimony has greater value in court than infidel testimony, it means restrictions on prayer and where you can live. Muslim states were oppressing Jews for a thousand years. So no, stop with the bull$#@! that Palestine is the victim in all this. Btw, when Israel was established, Saudi Arabia ALSO invaded Israel promising to kick out every Jew, not just Palestine, BEFORE Israel kicked ppl out (and the Arab invaders kicked out even more ppl than Israel kicked out during the war).

The Quran vilifies Jews, and the Hadith calls for the death of every Jew (quoted in the Hamas charter). So the idea that Israel is what created hostility to Jews in Islamic culture is just bull$#@! and ignorance. You blame Israel for radicalizing the rest of the Middle East, you equate Jewish law with Sharia law when Sharia law is enforced by government, and you ignore the fact that Palestine openly promises to kill all the Jews.

And again, you refuse to answer the question. Should Israel allow Hamas to form a military? Stop deflecting. Hamas promises to kill all the Jews, and you refuse to condemn them or their attacks, or their honest and open use of human shields. You just condemn Israel for fighting back as Hamas fires 1,500 Iranian rockets at them. Well, what would you do? Would you allow Hamas to form a full military?

How do you know they're Iranian? Depending on which neocon propaganda rag you read, they're supposedly Russian. And if they were Iranian, so what? US made weapons have been used by ME dictators and thugs to kill innocents for half a century or so now.

[heavenlyboy34]

Yet another lie. Palestine invaded Israel and promised to kick out every Jew BEFORE any Jewish crimes in the 1948 war, the Arabs started this. Furthermore, every Muslim-majority country ever has oppressed infidels under Sharia law. But obviously you have no idea why Sharia law means, or else you wouldn't idiotically equate it with individual Jews following Jewish law. Sharia law means executing ppl for criticizing or leaving Islam, Sharia law means Muslim (and male) testimony has greater value in court than infidel testimony, it means restrictions on prayer and where you can live. Muslim states were oppressing Jews for a thousand years. So no, stop with the bull$#@! that Palestine is the victim in all this. Btw, when Israel was established, Saudi Arabia ALSO invaded Israel promising to kick out every Jew, not just Palestine, BEFORE Israel kicked ppl out (and the Arab invaders kicked out even more ppl than Israel kicked out during the war).

The Quran vilifies Jews, and the Hadith calls for the death of every Jew (quoted in the Hamas charter). So the idea that Israel is what created hostility to Jews in Islamic culture is just bull$#@! and ignorance. You blame Israel for radicalizing the rest of the Middle East, you equate Jewish law with Sharia law when Sharia law is enforced by government, and you ignore the fact that Palestine openly promises to kill all the Jews.

And again, you refuse to answer the question. Should Israel allow Hamas to form a military? Stop deflecting. Hamas promises to kill all the Jews, and you refuse to condemn them or their attacks, or their honest and open use of human shields. You just condemn Israel for fighting back as Hamas fires 1,500 Iranian rockets at them. Well, what would you do? Would you allow Hamas to form a full military?

BS. Iraq, pre-war, was a safe haven for ethnic Christians and other minorities. Antioch, one of the homes of Christianity, is now Syria. Had the Western regimes not $#@!ed up the place, the Antiochian patriarchate and Christians throughout the nation would be safe. I could go on if I weren't busy.

[OReich]

How do you know they're Iranian? Depending on which neocon propaganda rag you read, they're supposedly Russian. And if they were Iranian, so what? US made weapons have been used by ME dictators and thugs to kill innocents for half a century or so now.

They're Iranian rockets, and calling it neocon propaganda just proves how delusional you are. Radical Muslims exist, neocons didn't invent them. And it MATTERS because it refutes the lie that Hamas is just 18 ppl in a basement firing "homemade" rockets.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/06/world/...hamas-support/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...s-in-Gaza.html
http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-rek...mas-1429658562
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/orig...wed-hamas.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ling-out-syria

[OReich]

BS. Iraq, pre-war, was a safe haven for ethnic Christians and other minorities. Antioch, one of the homes of Christianity, is now Syria. Had the Western regimes not $#@!ed up the place, the Antiochian patriarchate and Christians throughout the nation would be safe. I could go on if I weren't busy.

So killing over 50,000+ innocent Kurds is meaningless to you? Saddam Hussein your example of fair, secular Muslim governance? He also destroyed Shiite mosques. But I guess murdering hundreds of thousands of your own ppl is considered progressive for a Muslim-majority country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_graves_in_Iraq

Hundreds of thousands of corpses courtesy of YOUR favorite Muslim dictator.

Lol this is YOUR example.

[Danke]

Yet another lie. Palestine invaded Israel and promised to kick out every Jew BEFORE any Jewish crimes in the 1948 war, the Arabs started this. Furthermore, every Muslim-majority country ever has oppressed infidels under Sharia law. But obviously you have no idea why Sharia law means, or else you wouldn't idiotically equate it with individual Jews following Jewish law. Sharia law means executing ppl for criticizing or leaving Islam, Sharia law means Muslim (and male) testimony has greater value in court than infidel testimony, it means restrictions on prayer and where you can live. Muslim states were oppressing Jews for a thousand years. So no, stop with the bull$#@! that Palestine is the victim in all this. Btw, when Israel was established, Saudi Arabia ALSO invaded Israel promising to kick out every Jew, not just Palestine, BEFORE Israel kicked ppl out (and the Arab invaders kicked out even more ppl than Israel kicked out during the war).

The Quran vilifies Jews, and the Hadith calls for the death of every Jew (quoted in the Hamas charter). So the idea that Israel is what created hostility to Jews in Islamic culture is just bull$#@! and ignorance. You blame Israel for radicalizing the rest of the Middle East, you equate Jewish law with Sharia law when Sharia law is enforced by government, and you ignore the fact that Palestine openly promises to kill all the Jews.

And again, you refuse to answer the question. Should Israel allow Hamas to form a military? Stop deflecting. Hamas promises to kill all the Jews, and you refuse to condemn them or their attacks, or their honest and open use of human shields. You just condemn Israel for fighting back as Hamas fires 1,500 Iranian rockets at them. Well, what would you do? Would you allow Hamas to form a full military?

Until recently Christians and Jews lived in many Arab countries peacefully. Now because of US aggression controlled by the
ZOG, in those areas, they are fleeing or dying.

[Danke]

So killing over 50,000+ innocent Kurds is meaningless to you? Saddam Hussein your example of fair, secular Muslim governance?

BS, not even close with your numbers

[OReich]

BS, not even close with your numbers

Fart sound. Do you also deny that 13 million died in the Holocaust? Its a fair question for someone on RPF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_graves_in_Iraq

[heavenlyboy34]

So killing over 50,000+ innocent Kurds is meaningless to you? Saddam Hussein your example of fair, secular Muslim governance? He also destroyed Shiite mosques. But I guess murdering hundreds of thousands of your own ppl is considered progressive for a Muslim-majority country.

Lol this is YOUR example.

Quit repeating neocon lies. Even PBS published the facts that you either don't know or refuse to acknowledge:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...istians-intro/

Recent attacks on a Christian church in Egypt led to violent protests and dozens dead on the streets of Cairo.
David Kirkpatrick leads The New York Times’ coverage of the protests (read his dispatches) and he appeared on the NewsHour just hours after calm settled over the city on Monday morning. The protests heightened an atmosphere of tension, and the crackdown on them has damaged many Egyptians’ faith in the military council that currently runs the country.

“The (Christian) Copts have for sure lost a protector with Mubarak gone,” he said, shortly before going on the air.
Kirkpatrick described the relationship between deposed dictator Hosni Mubarak, who was Muslim, and Egypt’s Coptic Pope Shenouda III as “distinctive to this kind of one-man rule,” where Christians and other religious minorities support a secular dictator in return for protection and access to power. Mubarak was close to the Coptic pope to ensure that the pope’s 8 million followers acquiesced to the dictator’s rule.
“It’s a not-so-pretty phenomenon that you see throughout the Middle East.”
What follows is a list of the countries where this phenomenon is especially profound, and how these Christian communities fared when their protectors were deposed.

“Once in a while, Mubarak would do the pope a favor.”

Muslim: 90 percent (mostly Sunni)
Christian: 10 percent
Total Population: 82.1 million (CIA World Factbook, July 2011 est.)

Coptic Christians have been in Egypt for thousands of years. During Hosni Mubarak’s 30-year rule, they were often excluded from government, but their religious leader Pope Shenouda III publically endorsed and campaigned for Mubarak. In exchange, the Muslim Mubarak passed laws favored by the church, like this strict divorce law that applied only to Christians. In return, the dictator had the reluctant backing of Egypt’s 8 million Copts.
But even though Shenouda continued to support Mubarak throughout the uprisings, many Christians took part in the Tahrir Square protests.
This year, even before Mubarak was deposed, Coptic Christians were the target of a suicide bombing. Just last week, 26 died during violent protests that were sparked by an attack on a Cairo church.
With Mubarak gone, Egypt’s Copts lost a protector.
“Islamists have very little love for groups that supposedly supported the system,” says Mark LeVine, professor of Middle East History at University of California at Irvine.
Why were Copts loyal to Mubarak?
“It wasn’t exactly loyalty,” Steven Cook, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, writes in an email from Turkey. “It was acquiescence to Mubarak’s authoritarianism. The Christians were caught between Mubarak and fears of Islamists. They choose not to oppose Mubarak.”
What did they get in return?
“Every once in a while, Mubarak would do the pope a favor,” The New York Times’ David Kirkpatrick told the NewsHour’s Ray Suarez. “If Pope Shenouda publicly demanded it, Mubarak would let some Coptic prisoners out of jail and in various ways intervene to keep laws that the pope liked.”
Did Mubarak use sticks as well as carrots?
Like other dictatorships in the region, “The Mubarak regime at times stoked sectarian tensions,” says Cook. Mubarak was masterful at “subtly signaling to the Copts what might happen if the political system changed.”
With Mubarak gone, what’s next for the Copts?
“It’s not entirely clear,” says Cook. “One of the terrible legacies of the Mubarak era is how easy it is to whip up anti-Christian sentiment. I think that is what happened on Sunday.”

“If you don’t interfere with politics, then you are provided with a good life.”

Muslim: 97 percent (60-65 percent Shiite, 32-37 percent Sunni)
Christian or other: 3 percent
Total Population: 30.4 million (CIA World Factbook, July 2011 est.)

The Christian community in Iraq is one of the oldest in the region, dating back about 2,000 years, well before the introduction of Islam.
Since the start of the Iraq war in 2003, however, much the community has fled the country, diminishing its population within Iraq’s borders by about half.
Under Saddam Hussein, Iraq was ruled by the Baath party, a secular government. Hussein himself was a Sunni Muslim; Sunni Muslims comprise about 35 percent of Iraqis.
Since Hussein’s government was a minority government. Other minorities, including Christians, “felt much more protected under the Hussein regime than they do currently,” says Brian Katulis of the Center for American Progress.
How did the Christians benefit from Saddam Hussein?
“There was a kind of a social contract in Iraq,” between minorities and Hussein, says Adeed Dawisha, a professor at the University of Miami in Ohio. “Under Saddam, it was understood that if you don’t interfere in politics, then you are provided with a good life.”
“If the Christians supported Saddam, not because they loved what he was doing, it was the fear of the alternative,” Dawisha says.
As a result of turning their focus elsewhere, Christians prospered economically. They were businessmen, doctors, lawyers, and engineers. A select few were part of the political elite, like Tariq Aziz who served as foreign minister and deputy prime minister under Hussein.
According to Katulis, that created a “network of protection that existed through some of the leaders [in] Saddam’s inner circle … trickled on down through community.”
What did Hussein get out of it?
Hussein, by being intolerant of all sectarian violence, ensured that his minority-rule regime was safe from uprisings. The regime was equally intolerant of any sectarian-led violence, says Dawisha.
However, Christans were not a “favored community” under Hussein’s rule, Dawisha explains, “they were simply left alone.” As a result, these minorities did not rebel against him.
What happened after Hussein left?
Nothing good.
Once the regime fell, animosity between all religious communities exploded. The smallest minorities suffered the most. Before 2003, there were about 800,000 Christians in Iraq. Currently, Dawisha says, there is less than half that number.

Syria

The “old divide and rule…”

Muslim: 90 percent (74 percent Sunni, 16 percent other including, Shia, Alawites, Druze)
Christian: 10 percent
Other: <1 percent Jewish
Total Population: 22.5 million (CIA World Factbook, July 2010 est.)

Syria is a minority rule system, with Shia Alawite Muslims — who comprise only a small percentage of the population — wielding the most power, and with the Druze, Ismailis and Christians also playing important roles.
As the rest of the world turns on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who is an Alawite, Syria’s Christian population is steadfastly pulling for the dictator – and has for years.
What’s in it for them?
Christians get “very good business contracts, positions in government and the Syrian military,” says Andrew Tabler of The Washington Institute. “They get preferential treatment and protection of their places of worship.”
Because of this, Syria’s Christians have access to scholarships and opportunities to study abroad. It’s not surprising then that this minority plays an outsized role in Syria’s diplomatic life. Syria’s ambassador to France is Lamia Chakkor, a Christian whose father was a senior figure in Syria’s police and whose family ties helped her get the job. (You may remember her as the victim of a hoax resignation on France24 back in July.)
What’s in it for Assad?
For one thing, Syria’s Christians are “some of the most strident supporters of Assad,” according to Tabler. “They’re bridges to other countries and the international community. Assad thinks that helps the broader public perception of his regime.”
How does Assad keep them loyal?
Besides ambassadorships?
The regime stokes fear of Muslim violence among the Christian minority. Tabler says “It’s part of priming the pump. In Syria they do this by spreading fears (among Christians) that Islamists want to kill them … It’s an old divide and rule tactic.”
What Happens If Assad Goes?
“Of course Christians in Syria have some concerns about the future,” says Radwan Ziadeh of The Carr Center for Human Rights. He is strongly opposed to the Assad regime. “After 47 years of Assad rule they don’t know what will happen.”
Still, Ziadeh thinks that their place in Syria’s middle class leaves them well-positioned for a post-Assad era.
“They have businesses. They see the change in society as maybe opening up more economic opportunities for them .”

[Danke]

Fart sound. Do you also deny that 13 million died in the Holocaust? Its a fair question for someone on RPF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_graves_in_Iraq

Did you even read the propaganda page you quoted?

[amy31416]

Yet another lie. Palestine invaded Israel and promised to kick out every Jew BEFORE any Jewish crimes in the 1948 war, the Arabs started this. Furthermore, every Muslim-majority country ever has oppressed infidels under Sharia law. But obviously you have no idea why Sharia law means, or else you wouldn't idiotically equate it with individual Jews following Jewish law. Sharia law means executing ppl for criticizing or leaving Islam, Sharia law means Muslim (and male) testimony has greater value in court than infidel testimony, it means restrictions on prayer and where you can live. Muslim states were oppressing Jews for a thousand years. So no, stop with the bull$#@! that Palestine is the victim in all this. Btw, when Israel was established, Saudi Arabia ALSO invaded Israel promising to kick out every Jew, not just Palestine, BEFORE Israel kicked ppl out (and the Arab invaders kicked out even more ppl than Israel kicked out during the war).

The Quran vilifies Jews, and the Hadith calls for the death of every Jew (quoted in the Hamas charter). So the idea that Israel is what created hostility to Jews in Islamic culture is just bull$#@! and ignorance. You blame Israel for radicalizing the rest of the Middle East, you equate Jewish law with Sharia law when Sharia law is enforced by government, and you ignore the fact that Palestine openly promises to kill all the Jews.

And again, you refuse to answer the question. Should Israel allow Hamas to form a military? Stop deflecting. Hamas promises to kill all the Jews, and you refuse to condemn them or their attacks, or their honest and open use of human shields. You just condemn Israel for fighting back as Hamas fires 1,500 Iranian rockets at them. Well, what would you do? Would you allow Hamas to form a full military?

You really are a nitwit and unworthy of genuine debate, and you would surely fail.

[twomp]

Why does Israel like to kill kids so much?

[Ender]

I wonder how he feels about his government promising to kill every Jew.

Link?

[OReich]

Link?

Watch the videos I post in this thread, and read the Hamas charter, it quotes the Hadith and says they'll kill the Jews.

The fact that you need a link to prove this indicates that the media is not explaining anything about this conflict properly. They're screaming this as loud as they can, while leftist and retards ignore it and pretend its a lie. Being a libertarian doesn't require you to downplay Islamist bigotry as if its a myth. But apparently being a card-carrying anti-Israel retard DOES require you to ignore all Islamist bigotry (or blame it on the Jews, obviously).

[OReich]

You really are a nitwit and unworthy of genuine debate, and you would surely fail.

Nope. Because unlike the Palestinian Sharia law system that you proudly and openly support, in free speech nations the truth always prevail. You can go to Palestine and get away with your lies (while the truth I speak would get me executed), but here in the free world your bull$#@! doesn't stand up to muster. So answer the question: Should Israel allow Hamas to form a military?

[twomp]

Paying students to spread Israeli propaganda online

The National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS) has become a full-time partner in the Israeli government’s efforts to spread its propaganda online and on college campuses around the world.

NUIS has launched a program to pay Israeli university students $2,000 to spread pro-Israel propaganda online for 5 hours per week from the “comfort of home.”

The union is also partnering with Israel’s Jewish Agency to send Israeli students as missionaries to spread propaganda in other countries, for which they will also receive a stipend.

This active recruitment of Israeli students is part of Israel’s orchestrated effort to suppress the Palestinian solidarity movement under the guise of combating “delegitimization” of Israel and anti-Semitism.

The involvement of the official Israeli student union as well as Haifa University, Tel Aviv University, Ben-Gurion University and Sapir College in these state propaganda programs will likely bolster Palestinian calls for the international boycott of Israeli academic institutions.

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...ganda-facebook

[Ender]

Watch the videos I post in this thread, and read the Hamas charter, it quotes the Hadith and says they'll kill the Jews.

The fact that you need a link to prove this indicates that the media is not explaining anything about this conflict properly. They're screaming this as loud as they can, while leftist and retards ignore it and pretend its a lie. Being a libertarian doesn't require you to downplay Islamist bigotry as if its a myth. But apparently being a card-carrying anti-Israel retard DOES require you to ignore all Islamist bigotry (or blame it on the Jews, obviously).

Name-callers always call others what they are themselves.

Of course the fact that Hamas was created by Israel has nothing to do with this bigoted posted. Sorta like ignoring the fact that the US created ISIS and Al Qaeda and believing everything that MSM says about them.

And here is just a bit of Palestinian Law:

Title Two – Public Rights and Liberties

Article 9

Palestinians shall be equal before the law and the judiciary, without distinction based upon race, sex, color, religion, political views or disability.

Article 10

Basic human rights and liberties shall be protected and respected.
The Palestinian National Authority shall work without delay to become a party to regional and international declarations and covenants that protect human rights.

Article 11

Personal freedom is a natural right, shall be guaranteed and may not be violated.

You can read the rest here:

http://www.palestinianbasiclaw.org/b...nded-basic-law

[amy31416]

Exactly Ender, he's projecting.