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    Hawaii Becomes First State To Fully Ban Plastic Bags

    Hawaii on Wednesday became the first state in the union to fully ban plastic bags at grocery stores after Oahu joined other island counties in enforcing the prohibition.

    The ban prohibits grocery stores from offering plastic or other non-recyclable bags to customers. Businesses that don’t comply with the new ordinance will be fined $100 per day, or up to $1,000 for repeat offenders.

    California has been moving toward a similar ban, but has encountered roadblocks along the way. After Gov. Jerry Brown signed a measure banning plastic bags effective July 1, opponents were able to postpone its implementation by qualifying for a referendum that will put the issue to voters in November 2016, the Los Angeles Times reported.

    Supporters are confident voters will uphold the ban, noting that more than 100 California cities and counties have already enacted their own prohibitions on plastic. Supporters plan to spend $10 million to campaign for voters to vote “yes.”

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    In Hawaii, grocery stores can choose how they will enforce the ban, either by providing compostable, recyclable bags or reusable bags. Plastic bags will still be able to be used for restaurant takeout, newspapers, and at pharmacies.

    Hawaii County outlawed plastic bags for groceries in 2013, while Maui and Kauai banned them about five years ago.

    Maui’s ban has led to a “massive decrease” in plastic bags, the county’s Solid Waste Division chief said, according to Hawaii News Now.
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    In Hawaii, grocery stores can choose how they will enforce the ban ...

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    Among the other litter, wrappers, diapers, etc. I saw a reusable "green" grocery tote littering hwy 11 the other week. Tru story -I lol'd

    Should ban those things.
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    Well, now they will have to pollute and cut down more trees to get more paper bags.

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    so you're supposed to put raw meat in paper or something?
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    They do clog up the environment. Those 3rd party costs you know? What we really need in this situation is biodegradable plastic. Plastic is basically a bunch of organized Carbon chains after all. What would be nice is some sort of biological organism such as a bacteria that could feed on plastic and convert it into something useable by the ecosystem. Who knows! You bioengineering people, get on that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    so you're supposed to put raw meat in paper or something?
    Yes. All we had was paper bags when I was a kid. Then they brought out plastic and you had a choice. If I remember correctly, they were pushing plastic to save the trees. O_o

    I have reusable bags because plastic bags suck and I don't want to make 50 trips from the van to the house.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    And the island then instantly sinks beneath the waves.

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    Plastic water bottles all over Boulder from last weekend's triathalon - in gutters and in landscaping
    and will end up downstream in creek - they will never go away . . .



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Well, now they will have to pollute and cut down more trees to get more paper bags.
    Thank goodness those cottonwood trees grow in 6 years to make pulp isn't it (?)
    - totally renewable farming, and the trees are just great for sucking out the carbon dioxide on the planet -
    cut them down, then grow another tree.

    Sure wish damn Bouilder, Colorado wasn't so friggan dumb 'bout dat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Thank goodness those cottonwood trees grow in 6 years to make pulp isn't it (?)
    - totally renewable farming, and the trees are just great for sucking out the carbon dioxide on the planet -
    cut them down, then grow another tree.

    Sure wish damn Bouilder, Colorado wasn't so friggan dumb 'bout dat.
    The point remains that Suz is correct - plastic bags were promoted in some effort to save the trees. But tree-huggers brought 'em in, and tree huggers can take 'em out, I guess.
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    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The point remains that Suz is correct - plastic bags were promoted in some effort to save the trees.
    But tree-huggers brought 'em in, and tree huggers can take 'em out, I guess.
    and the point remains . . . Ua mau ke ea o ka aina i ka pono
    Dumb arse haole sola fide always saying thing arse-backwards out of his pie-hole,
    eh brudda Kimo dis' haole make good shark bait . . . eh ?

    Yup, wahine is. was, and still is right - after all the life of the land is perpetuated in rightousness.
    the point remains that Maui no ka oi leads,
    Oaha finally coming around as well -
    Cali next hopefully.

    Plastic is $#@! - the point remains !
    Last edited by Jan2017; 08-08-2015 at 08:34 PM. Reason: spellin' haole words

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    so you're supposed to put raw meat in paper or something?
    Um..that's what they did before plastic.

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    I suppose plastics would give off toxic fumes if it was thrown in that giant perpetual incinerator they have over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Rogue View Post
    I suppose plastics would give off toxic fumes if it was thrown in that giant perpetual incinerator they have over there.
    or just burn those plastic milk jugs in your backyard in Simi Valley too -
    great for getting the ppm of carbon dioxide to 500 soon enuf, eh (?)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    so you're supposed to put raw meat in paper or something?
    Ti leaves work.
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