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Thread: Matt Kibbe on NewsmaxTV talks about Rand Paul and 2016 field

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I did not "judge a candidate based on [his] supporters" (in any "place," first, last or other) - I judged some of his supporters.

    That is precisely why I quite deliberately - not to mention explicitly - referred to "Rand supporters" and not to Rand himself.
    You threatened to "sit down", in other words stop supporting Rand. I remember conservatives in 2007 were criticizing Ron Paul for his 9/11 truther supporters.




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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Banana and Badgiraffe again.
    Ron Paul is not an isolationist. *sigh*
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Well yeah, but Kibbe's trying to woo PAC donors; not to throw red meat to the grassroots.
    ^this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    You threatened to "sit down", in other words stop supporting Rand.
    No I didn't. This is what I said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    If this is what "Stand With Rand" means to Rand supporters, them I'm sittin' my ass the hell down ...
    IOW: If Rand supporters think "Standing With Rand" means positively affirming & adopting the slanders used against Ron by his enemies, then I am NOT going to join them in doing so.

    I said nothing about supporting or not supporting Rand himself, one way or the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I remember conservatives in 2007 were criticizing Ron Paul for his 9/11 truther supporters.
    So what? I have not uttered a single word of criticism against Rand over this. I have criticized some of his supporters.

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