Polygamous Montana trio applies for wedding license

[William Tell]

HELENA, Mont. (AP) — A Montana man said Wednesday that he was inspired by last week's U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing gay marriage to apply for a marriage license so that he can legally wed his second wife.


Nathan Collier and his wives Victoria and Christine applied at the Yellowstone County Courthouse in Billings on Tuesday in an attempt to legitimize their polygamous marriage. Montana, like all 50 states, outlaws bigamy — holding multiple marriage licenses — but Collier said he plans to sue if the application is denied.


"It's about marriage equality," Collier told The Associated Press Wednesday. "You can't have this without polygamy."
County clerk officials initially denied Collier's application, then said they would consult with the county attorney before giving him a final answer, Collier said.


Officials at the clerk's office did not have an immediate comment, and Yellowstone County Attorney Scott Twito did not return a call for comment.


The Supreme Court's ruling on Friday made gay marriages legal nationwide. Chief Justice John Roberts said in his dissent that people in polygamous relationships could make the same legal argument that not having the opportunity to marry disrespects and subordinates them.

Collier, 46, said that dissent inspired him. He owns a refrigeration business in Billings and married Victoria, 40, in 2000. He and his second wife, Christine, had a religious wedding ceremony in 2007 but did not sign a marriage license to avoid bigamy charges, he said.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/polygamou...193205283.html

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"It's about marriage equality," Collier told The Associated Press Wednesday. "You can't have this without polygamy."
County clerk officials initially denied Collier's application, then said they would consult with the county attorney before giving him a final answer, Collier said.


Officials at the clerk's office did not have an immediate comment, and Yellowstone County Attorney Scott Twito did not return a call for comment.


The Supreme Court's ruling on Friday made gay marriages legal nationwide. Chief Justice John Roberts said in his dissent that people in polygamous relationships could make the same legal argument that not having the opportunity to marry disrespects and subordinates them.

Collier, 46, said that dissent inspired him. He owns a refrigeration business in Billings and married Victoria, 40, in 2000. He and his second wife, Christine, had a religious wedding ceremony in 2007 but did not sign a marriage license to avoid bigamy charges, he said.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/polygamou...193205283.html

Nathan Collier and his wives Victoria and Christine


Although love is love, this is troubling developmemt and could unravel the whole institution of marriage as God intended. Such a case could cause current religiously diverse SCOTUS to be very confused while deliberating on equal rights for consenting adults.

A huge political crisis has just been born today.







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Obama and Romney both come from a ancestry of polygamy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...8CT_story.html

Jerome Corsi: Obama's dad polygamist

[wizardwatson]

And next up, a Muslim man from America wishes to marry his child bride from Sudan where there is no marriage age limit. And it's a boy!

I mean, love always wins right?

Plus man-boy love has an illustrious history with some of the greatest minds in the world.

If the world wasn't so bigoted we sure could save a lot on legal fees.

[P3ter_Griffin]

I think Nevada is before super tuesday, Rand should get behind this.

[Wooden Indian]

When someone supports getting the Government OUT of our personal lives... yet fears a polygamist or gay couple getting married... I am left a little befuddled.
I do not morally support polygamy and I find homosexuality... well, icky. But, my morality and my "tastes" should not be made the law of the land in a free society, should it?

Let the guy have 2 wives. Hell, let him have 14 of em if they are willing brides of consenting age. Just don't come to me with your hand out asking for food stamps when you can't afford the family you chose. And be sure to find a Church or whatever you dig to marry you.

Just as I don't want impose myself into your beliefs, I expect you to return the favor and not force me into yours. So, if my church turns you away... deal with it, find one that accepts it, and enjoy the harem, dude.

Simple enough for me. Then again, I'm a simple guy.

[wizardwatson]

When someone supports getting the Government OUT of our personal lives... yet fears a polygamist or gay couple getting married... I am left a little befuddled.
I do not morally support polygamy and I find homosexuality... well, icky. But, my morality and my "tastes" should not be made the law of the land in a free society, should it?

Let the guy have 2 wives. Hell, let him have 14 of em if they are willing brides of consenting age. Just don't come to me with your hand out asking for food stamps when you can't afford the family you chose. And be sure to find a Church or whatever you dig to marry you.

Just as I don't want impose myself into your beliefs, I expect you to return the favor and not force me into yours. So, if my church turns you away... deal with it, find one that accepts it, and enjoy the harem, dude.

Simple enough for me. Then again, I'm a simple guy.

Would you let your daughter be a polygamist?

Love your neighbor means to rebuke your neighbor. It means the same way you would treat yourself and your blood, you treat your neighbor. The whole "I don't care what other people do" is not Christian. Not that you are. Just making a point.

[specsaregood]

And suddenly millions of men that didn't give a crap about this whole gay marriage thing sat up and started paying attention...

[Sola_Fide]

Incest, pedophilia, and animal relations are next. State sanctioned perversion will be the norm. This is how government destroys the morality of a people.

[juleswin]

When someone supports getting the Government OUT of our personal lives... yet fears a polygamist or gay couple getting married... I am left a little befuddled.
I do not morally support polygamy and I find homosexuality... well, icky. But, my morality and my "tastes" should not be made the law of the land in a free society, should it?

Let the guy have 2 wives. Hell, let him have 14 of em if they are willing brides of consenting age. Just don't come to me with your hand out asking for food stamps when you can't afford the family you chose. And be sure to find a Church or whatever you dig to marry you.

Just as I don't want impose myself into your beliefs, I expect you to return the favor and not force me into yours. So, if my church turns you away... deal with it, find one that accepts it, and enjoy the harem, dude.

Simple enough for me. Then again, I'm a simple guy.

Just beautiful, well said.

[wizardwatson]

And suddenly millions of men that didn't give a crap about this whole gay marriage thing sat up and started paying attention...

I was talking about it when it wasn't cool.

Most here were silent and all I mostly got was yelled at for being a gay-bashing westboro supporter. To me though homosexuality pales in comparison to the problem I have with "gay marriage", and for that I hold Christians more responsible than gays. No one really stood up. And when you look at who was filing lawsuits it was all from the liberal side. There were few, very few counter-suits and defenses from the right.

Just today I saw a news article that the Episcopal church has condoned it. They will marry gays in churches, with the caveat that priests can decline to take part. But it's been sanctified by the government and the church is in lockstep. Some will anyway. Enough to destroy any unity among the churches.

[Carlybee]

I always get the feeling that these women who let their husbands take a second wife are just trying to pawn off some of the marriage obligations.

[juleswin]

Would you let your daughter be a polygamist?

Love your neighbor means to rebuke your neighbor. It means the same way you would treat yourself and your blood, you treat your neighbor. The whole "I don't care what other people do" is not Christian. Not that you are. Just making a point.

Let your daughter? is this daughter you talk of a minor or an adult? If shes a minor, I wouldn't let her marry anything. But as an adult I would try to dissuade her from marrying a midget, a poor person, an illiterate, a smoker, a weed user and the list goes on. You get the point but I wouldn't disown her and desire that it be illegal to marry those people.

[Wooden Indian]

Would you let your daughter be a polygamist?

Love your neighbor means to rebuke your neighbor. It means the same way you would treat yourself and your blood, you treat your neighbor. The whole "I don't care what other people do" is not Christian. Not that you are. Just making a point.

I can't say that I would LET her any more than I could forbid her. If she were a consenting adult (she is not, but I'll play along), I would strongly discourage her from entering into that marriage, and assure her that she has enough value to be all any one man needs. In the end, it would be her choice to make.

What would ones options be? Scream at her until she ran away with him for sure?
Drag her into a room and lock her away like some animal?
Kill the groom?

But, just like the hypothetical daughter, these people can do as they see fit. I may stand opposed to them morally, but I will stand with them to have the freedom to make their own choices in life. Wise or no. Their choices.

[wizardwatson]

Incest, pedophilia, and animal relations are next. State sanctioned perversion will be the norm. This is how government destroys the morality of a people.

Government is a mirror of the people in this country. Americans don't get to claim victimhood. We have all the blessings and we sit on our asses, eat ourselves to death, puff up with pride, gawk at ourselves in the mirror of social networks, and enable our government to spread miserty throughout the earth, and we hate, hate, hate anyone or anything that makes us feel guilty and "judges" us for it.

[Sola_Fide]

Government is a mirror of the people in this country. Americans don't get to claim victimhood. We have all the blessings and we sit on our asses, eat ourselves to death, puff up with pride, gawk at ourselves in the mirror of social networks, and enable our government to spread miserty throughout the earth, and we hate, hate, hate anyone or anything that makes us feel guilty and "judges" us for it.

Yeah, but the thing is with sin, is that sin is usually always accompanied by other sin. When your government endorses perversion, it tends to also endorse things like murder, oppression, and things like that.

[William Tell]

I am actually behind this guy, except for the asking for Gov. permission thing. God never forbade polygamy, although he did bother to forbid seemingly trivial things like eating oysters. Kinda funny how the modern church is cool with ignoring some of his commands, and saying they don't matter anymore. And then making up new sins.

[Carlybee]

Yeah, but the thing is with sin, is that sin is usually always accompanied by other sin. When your government endorses perversion, it tends to also endorse things like murder, oppression, and things like that.

They already do endorse murder and oppression via wars, via police state.

[Sola_Fide]

They already do endorse murder and oppression via wars, via police state.

Right, but it will become more and more blatant.

[invisible]

This is excellent news!

[Mach]

Love lift us up where we belong.......

[Danke]

Polygamy is common throughout history and even in many places today. Homosexual marriage, not. So what he is asking for makes more sense.

[Natural Citizen]

Love lift us up where we belong.......

Oh, Hey, that's a really good song. I wonder if I have it. I'm going to go check.

In slightly relevant news - First-ever robot wedding takes place in Japan



Love Rusts.

[alucard13mm]

I can't wait for a man to marry 10 men at once lol... throw in a rooster in there too.

Maybe the state will allow a man to marry his pillow with a fictional character on it

[timosman]

Why not marry oneself ? A single person marriage - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post5906087

[heavenlyboy34]

I am actually behind this guy, except for the asking for Gov. permission thing. God never forbade polygamy, although he did bother to forbid seemingly trivial things like eating oysters. Kinda funny how the modern church is cool with ignoring some of his commands, and saying they don't matter anymore. And then making up new sins.

What are you referring to?

[Brian4Liberty]

I always get the feeling that these women who let their husbands take a second wife are just trying to pawn off some of the marriage obligations.

Maybe. But if Bill is allowed to go polygamist and marry Huma, it's likely Bill would get every night off from his "marriage" obligations.

[heavenlyboy34]

Right, but it will become more and more blatant.

Yup. In typical debates, the "slippery slope" is considered invalid, but there is so much precedent that what you say here is a very legitimate, valid claim.

[Suzanimal]

I am actually behind this guy, except for the asking for Gov. permission thing. God never forbade polygamy, although he did bother to forbid seemingly trivial things like eating oysters. Kinda funny how the modern church is cool with ignoring some of his commands, and saying they don't matter anymore. And then making up new sins.

Badgiraffe is working on his harem as we speak.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Badgiraffe again.

[FunkBuddha]

My wife's been pushing for me to take on a second but one is all I can handle. I'm pretty sure she's just trying to get help with the house work.

[juleswin]

I can't wait for a man to marry 10 men at once lol... throw in a rooster in there too.

Maybe the state will allow a man to marry his pillow with a fictional character on it

You do know that one cannot sign a contract with an inanimate object and when it comes to marriage, you need the consent of your partner for the state to accept it. Good luck getting consent from a pillow.