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    Thumbs up UFC 189: the OFFICIAL thread


    w00t! I'm calling it McGregor by KO and Lawler by KO or submission.
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    Aldo pulled out last minute due to a rib injury. McGregor is fighting Chad Mendes for the interim belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sola_Fide View Post
    Aldo pulled out last minute due to a rib injury. McGregor is fighting Chad Mendes for the interim belt.
    Yup. I believe that's mentioned in the promo vid in the OP, but IDR. I heard about it this afternoon on yahoo sports or bloody elbow or something like that.
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    Anyone else watching?

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    I will definitely be watching.. I kinda want mendez to win so conor will shut the $#@! up...


    and lawler will smoke mcdonald just like last time they fought.. mcdonald tries to be too technical and lawler just steamrolls him since hes such a well-rounded fighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sola_Fide View Post
    Anyone else watching?
    I don't have cable (and I'm too lazy to find a way to watch free on the interwebz), but I will watch the toobz after.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    I will definitely be watching.. I kinda want mendez to win so conor will shut the $#@! up...


    and lawler will smoke mcdonald just like last time they fought.. mcdonald tries to be too technical and lawler just steamrolls him since hes such a well-rounded fighter
    This^^ Conor is quite good, but his shenanigans got old fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I don't have cable (and I'm too lazy to find a way to watch free on the interwebz), but I will watch the toobz after.
    Buffalo Wild Wings has it on free.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sola_Fide View Post
    Anyone else watching?
    Hell yeah! I'm throwing a party and probably gonna put some money on the fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    I will definitely be watching.. I kinda want mendez to win so conor will shut the $#@! up...


    and lawler will smoke mcdonald just like last time they fought.. mcdonald tries to be too technical and lawler just steamrolls him since hes such a well-rounded fighter
    Conor winning would be great for the sport. Plus it sets up the Aldo fight taking place later in the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastiat's The Law View Post
    Conor winning would be great for the sport. Plus it sets up the Aldo fight taking place later in the year.
    I agree but he has to be as good as he says for that to work as well so they go hand and hand.. If he destroys Mendez than I will start to come around a little but he has to be tested before he can claim to be so great.. He hasn't been tested by any real fighters yet so we really don't know who we're dealing with..

    I am actually waiting for Joseph Duffy to come back and beat Conor again like he did last time. He's the really prospect in my opinion.. He's finally in the UFC and I want to see him shut Conor up more than mendez

    If he gets owned by Mendez than I'll be happy because he's not as good as he says at that point and he will have to shut up to a certain degree, no more bull$#@! promotions using just words
    Last edited by Kotin; 07-07-2015 at 03:21 PM.
    The ultimate minority is the individual. Protect the individual from Democracy and you will protect all groups of individuals
    Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. - Thomas Jefferson
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

    - Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    I agree but he has to be as good as he says for that to work as well so they go hand and hand.. If he destroys Mendez than I will start to come around a little but he has to be tested before he can claim to be so great.. He hasn't been tested by any real fighters yet so we really don't know who we're dealing with..

    I am actually waiting for Joseph Duffy to come back and beat Conor again like he did last time. He's the really prospect in my opinion.. He's finally in the UFC and I want to see him shut Conor up more than mendez

    If he gets owned by Mendez than I'll be happy because he's not as good as he says at that point and he will have to shut up to a certain degree, no more bull$#@! promotions using just words
    I see Conor as an entirely different animal than, say, a Chael Sonnen. Have you seen the Notorious series about him yet? Conor seems supremely confident in his abilities and obsessed with getting better. You might say that describes a lot of fighters, but there's something different with Conor. He's made me a believer.

    The Mendes fight will answer a lot of questions though. I'm so pumped for Saturday!

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    New advert for the bout is up, so I'm sharing here in the OFFICIAL thread: Still calling it for McGregor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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    New promo video for the OFFICIAL thread, courtesy the UFC t00b channel. McGregor FTW.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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    I don't follow UFC as much as I used to so I am not familiar with either Mendes or Conner guy. But just looking at the few highlights in the 2mins video and their measurements, I think Conner is going to get the win. Mendes is way too muscular and short to be fighting Conner also Conner's reach advantage is going to give him problems. To Mendes, its going to feel like someone is beating him with a stick.

    Also what is the rumor behind Aldo's withdrawal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I don't follow UFC as much as I used to so I am not familiar with either Mendes or Conner guy. But just looking at the few highlights in the 2mins video and their measurements, I think Conner is going to get the win. Mendes is way too muscular and short to be fighting Conner also Conner's reach advantage is going to give him problems. To Mendes, its going to feel like someone is beating him with a stick.

    Also what is the rumor behind Aldo's withdrawal?
    Mendes has a great wrestling pedigree though and Conor's ground game could be non-existent. Conor has wicked punching power though.

    Last edited by Bastiat's The Law; 07-10-2015 at 07:32 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I don't follow UFC as much as I used to so I am not familiar with either Mendes or Conner guy. But just looking at the few highlights in the 2mins video and their measurements, I think Conner is going to get the win. Mendes is way too muscular and short to be fighting Conner also Conner's reach advantage is going to give him problems. To Mendes, its going to feel like someone is beating him with a stick.

    Also what is the rumor behind Aldo's withdrawal?
    From the Bloody Elbow rumor mill:
    If there was any doubt that the UFC was going to bury Jose Aldo for withdrawing from UFC 189, this clears out a lot of it. While Jose Aldo and his camp have held steadfast in their report that Aldo's rib is broke, the UFC president is telling a very different story. White spoke to MMAFighting about the injury stating that the x-rays Aldo provided didn't show a fractured rib, but instead a calcified injury that had been re-aggravated. He also made it clear that the injury itself wasn't pushing Aldo out of the fight instead, it was Aldo's fear that he would be unable to make weight with the injury hampering him.
    "So what happened was, when the pictures went out onto the internet, right, and you saw this rib down here, that was an old injury," the UFC president said. "That was an old injury that was calcified white. The real injury was the bruised rib and cartilage. He had a bruised rib and cartilage. And the big problem for Aldo in taking the fight, wasn't the fight. It was making weight.
    "He had to cut something like 24 pounds, and if he couldn't physically do it the way that he does it, he was afraid that he couldn't make weight," White continued. "That was really the issue. But he did not have a broken rib. It was a bruise. Every x-ray he sent out was of an old injury. What you saw right there on his body was an old injury, not a new injury.
    "It wasn't UFC doctors (who cleared him), either. It was three different doctors."
    White's comments were echoed by UFC medical consultant Jeff Davidson in recent comments to Yahoo Sports:
    "What happens a lot of the time is the cartilage gets calcified from an old injury, from an injury to the ribs," said Davidson, whose full-time job is as an emergency room physician. "When cartilage heals, it heals by calcification. If you get injured in that area again, that calcified cartilage can break and can look like a fracture line."
    "But it's still the cartilage that's just become a calcified cartilage."
    Davidson went on to say that White's first words upon hearing the news were to tell Jose Aldo, "We want you to get better and there is no pressure on you to fight. Go do what the doctors tell you and do your therapy and let us know in five or six days how you're feeling." The rest, as they say, is history.
    Conor McGregor will face Chad Mendes for the interim featherweight title on Saturday, July 11th at the MGM Grand Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada. Last we heard, Jose Aldo is still planning on fighting before the end of the year.

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/10...-fear-mma-news
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastiat's The Law View Post
    Mendes has a great wrestling pedigree though and Conor's ground game could be non-existent. Conor has wicked punching power though.

    That is the best stature for a fighter, not too bulky/skinny and not too short/tall. That way you maintain enough power to one punch knock out and still maintain your top speed and stamina. The hulking fighters like Mendes never become champions, they tend to gas out in 5 round matches if they fail to end the fight before round 4. Same goes for tall and skinny fighters like the Diaz brothers.

    Connor would just need to strike from afar and defend the take down like his life depends on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    From the Bloody Elbow rumor mill:
    If there was any doubt that the UFC was going to bury Jose Aldo for withdrawing from UFC 189, this clears out a lot of it. While Jose Aldo and his camp have held steadfast in their report that Aldo's rib is broke, the UFC president is telling a very different story. White spoke to MMAFighting about the injury stating that the x-rays Aldo provided didn't show a fractured rib, but instead a calcified injury that had been re-aggravated. He also made it clear that the injury itself wasn't pushing Aldo out of the fight instead, it was Aldo's fear that he would be unable to make weight with the injury hampering him.
    "So what happened was, when the pictures went out onto the internet, right, and you saw this rib down here, that was an old injury," the UFC president said. "That was an old injury that was calcified white. The real injury was the bruised rib and cartilage. He had a bruised rib and cartilage. And the big problem for Aldo in taking the fight, wasn't the fight. It was making weight.
    "He had to cut something like 24 pounds, and if he couldn't physically do it the way that he does it, he was afraid that he couldn't make weight," White continued. "That was really the issue. But he did not have a broken rib. It was a bruise. Every x-ray he sent out was of an old injury. What you saw right there on his body was an old injury, not a new injury.
    "It wasn't UFC doctors (who cleared him), either. It was three different doctors."
    White's comments were echoed by UFC medical consultant Jeff Davidson in recent comments to Yahoo Sports:
    "What happens a lot of the time is the cartilage gets calcified from an old injury, from an injury to the ribs," said Davidson, whose full-time job is as an emergency room physician. "When cartilage heals, it heals by calcification. If you get injured in that area again, that calcified cartilage can break and can look like a fracture line."
    "But it's still the cartilage that's just become a calcified cartilage."
    Davidson went on to say that White's first words upon hearing the news were to tell Jose Aldo, "We want you to get better and there is no pressure on you to fight. Go do what the doctors tell you and do your therapy and let us know in five or six days how you're feeling." The rest, as they say, is history.
    Conor McGregor will face Chad Mendes for the interim featherweight title on Saturday, July 11th at the MGM Grand Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada. Last we heard, Jose Aldo is still planning on fighting before the end of the year.

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/10...-fear-mma-news
    So there is a real injury which prevented him from making weight and he quit because he couldn't make weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    That is the best stature for a fighter, not too bulky/skinny and not too short/tall. That way you maintain enough power to one punch knock out and still maintain your top speed and stamina. The hulking fighters like Mendes never become champions, they tend to gas out in 5 round matches if they fail to end the fight before round 4. Same goes for tall and skinny fighters like the Diaz brothers.

    Connor would just need to strike from afar and defend the take down like his life depends on it
    True that. It seems like the bigger fighters don't seem to work on cardio conditioning enough. Why's that? That's something you don't even need to be in a gym with a trainer/coach for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    So there is a real injury which prevented him from making weight and he quit because he couldn't make weight?
    Apparently so. I'm just repeating what's going around the interwebz.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    That is the best stature for a fighter, not too bulky/skinny and not too short/tall. That way you maintain enough power to one punch knock out and still maintain your top speed and stamina. The hulking fighters like Mendes never become champions, they tend to gas out in 5 round matches if they fail to end the fight before round 4. Same goes for tall and skinny fighters like the Diaz brothers.

    Connor would just need to strike from afar and defend the take down like his life depends on it
    Can he defend those takedowns though? That's the million dollar question. Gonna be interesting

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    Coming from an Irish family, I'm rooting for Conor, but I'm afraid he is going to get laid on for 5 rounds and lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastiat's The Law View Post
    Great event!
    No spoilers till the t00bs are up!
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    Over.
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    That was the best UFC fight card I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sola_Fide View Post
    Coming from an Irish family, I'm rooting for Conor, but I'm afraid he is going to get laid on for 5 rounds and lose.
    didn't see a thread about the fight last night, didn't know it happened until I saw the news headline. McGregor over Aldo in 13seconds. dayum.



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