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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    I have no problem with drunk driving.

    Crimes have victims.
    Crimes involve mens rea.
    Crimes are affirmed by peer juries.

    All the other authoritarian controls of victimless "offensive behavior" are manifestations of nanny state bull$#@!.
    I think the prime issue is driving sloshed. I have no problem with someone with alcohol in their system driving within their limitations.

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/top-te...t-marry-mexico

    Driving while inebriated is not condemned by Mexican society. Officials there now insist that more is being done by law enforcement to curtail dangerous drunk driving, but there is no change of public opinion like the one in the US after the effective Mothers Against Drunk Driving campaigns.

    Mexicans bring this dangerous aspect of their culture when they come north. The leading cause of death for Hispanics aged 1-34 is vehicle crashes, and states with high rates of fatal hit-and-run accidents correspond with those most affected by illegal immigration.

    “The Latino community creates its own problems,” said Joe Ynostroza, technical assistance director for the California Hispanic Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse in Sacramento, a nonprofit educational organization. The problem is especially acute in Mexico.

    “Most of this is first- or second-generation Mexican males,” he said. “Alcoholism runs rampant in the Mexican Latino community.”


    No other ethnic or racial group has such a high level of DUI arrests statewide, according to the California Department of Justice. [DUI`s culture gap, By Rick Brewer Stockton Record, May 21, 2006]

    The ongoing carnage on American highways from Mexican drunk drivers is increasing with an expanding population of foreigners not assimilating to the American way of driving—law-abiding, sober and strapped in.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    An Indian Raj once explained to an English officer, "Our custom is to eat people." To which the English officer replied, "Our custom is to shoot people, that eat people."
    I hope this happened in England not in India cos that English officer will totally be out of line if it happened in India.



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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    1 in 5 are on pychiatric drugs.

    Americans consume 80% of the worlds opiates.

    What's your point?

    Way too many of the wrong types of folks are allowed and out there driving dangerously?
    Last edited by Ronin Truth; 07-01-2015 at 10:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I think the prime issue is driving sloshed.
    No, the issue is personal injury and property damage.

    Until their is a victim, sloshed is irrelevant and inherently presumptive.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Way too many of the wrong types of folks are allowed and out there driving dangerously?
    Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    No, the issue is personal injury and property damage.

    Until their is a victim, sloshed is irrelevant and inherently presumptive.
    And the recourse for lost life is? The consequences are not redeemable. You would think in a civil society, you wouldn't have to ask the citizenry to not drive impaired to such a degree, in that they can no longer operate their vehicle. This is common, basic sense stuff. Act responsible. Now whether this push for responsibility entails drunk driving laws is another debate.
    Last edited by AuH20; 07-01-2015 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I think the prime issue is driving sloshed. I have no problem with someone with alcohol in their system driving within their limitations.

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/top-te...t-marry-mexico

    Driving while inebriated is not condemned by Mexican society. Officials there now insist that more is being done by law enforcement to curtail dangerous drunk driving, but there is no change of public opinion like the one in the US after the effective Mothers Against Drunk Driving campaigns.

    Mexicans bring this dangerous aspect of their culture when they come north. The leading cause of death for Hispanics aged 1-34 is vehicle crashes, and states with high rates of fatal hit-and-run accidents correspond with those most affected by illegal immigration.

    “The Latino community creates its own problems,” said Joe Ynostroza, technical assistance director for the California Hispanic Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse in Sacramento, a nonprofit educational organization. The problem is especially acute in Mexico.

    “Most of this is first- or second-generation Mexican males,” he said. “Alcoholism runs rampant in the Mexican Latino community.”


    No other ethnic or racial group has such a high level of DUI arrests statewide, according to the California Department of Justice. [DUI`s culture gap, By Rick Brewer Stockton Record, May 21, 2006]

    The ongoing carnage on American highways from Mexican drunk drivers is increasing with an expanding population of foreigners not assimilating to the American way of driving—law-abiding, sober and strapped in.
    If the drunk Mexicans didn't have to dodge the drunk native Americans passed out on the highway fog lines all of the time, there wouldn't be this problem. Try driving across I40 through New Mexico, Arizona and Texas and see what I'm talking about. The drunk Indians have replaced mile markers in these states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry1 View Post
    If the drunk Mexicans didn't have to dodge the drunk native Americans passed out on the highway fog lines all of the time, there wouldn't be this problem. Try driving across I40 through New Mexico, Arizona and Texas and see what I'm talking about. The drunk Indians have replaced mile markers in these states.
    Good point. They love some firewater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    No, the issue is personal injury and property damage.

    Until their is a victim, sloshed is irrelevant and inherently presumptive.
    Do you have an opinion on allowing the blind to drive?

    If not, then what are the allowable number of casualties?

    Unconcerned with any other potentially fatal driving incapacities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Good point. They love some firewater.
    LOL



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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    The fact that someone is violating her rights is no argument that someone should also violate someone else's rights.
    Before the immigrant comes, she is not paying yet for their healthcare. So it's about preventing a new violation of her rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    Before the immigrant comes, she is not paying yet for their healthcare. So it's about preventing a new violation of her rights.
    She's paying for other people's healthcare. Paying for someone's healthcare has nothing to do with immigration. Preventing them from coming here doesn't protect her rights. It only violates theirs and others here who want to do business with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    She's paying for other people's healthcare. Paying for someone's healthcare has nothing to do with immigration. Preventing them from coming here doesn't protect her rights.
    Preventing an immigrant from coming obviously prevents one additional violation of her rights, because if the immigrant comes, she will be paying government services for one more immigrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    An Indian Raj once explained to an English officer, "Our custom is to eat people." To which the English officer replied, "Our custom is to shoot people, that eat people."
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Ronin Truth again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Actually she wants the pregnant girls to stay in the country where they got pregnant.
    That, or she just wants the people that get those kids pregnant to not be allowed into America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    That, or she just wants the people that get those kids pregnant to not be allowed into America.
    From her own words, that's obviously not it:
    Hispanic children are seven times more likely to give birth between the ages of 10-14 than white children
    Even if it were though, it's wrong to punish someone for a crime they haven't committed yet, just because you think they're going to commit it in the future on account of their race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    From her own words, that's obviously not it:


    Even if it were though, it's wrong to punish someone for a crime they haven't committed yet, just because you think they're going to commit it in the future on account of their race.
    Did they commit a crime in coming here?

    Would the reverse be a crime in Mexico?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Did they commit a crime in coming here?
    No.



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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    No.
    Is that your final answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Is that your final answer?
    Yes.

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    A lot of voters are sick of the media talking about how wonderful Mexican Nationals are when clearly there is obesity, single motherhood, unmarried, diabetes rates , California & Texas high school achievement rates, Hispanic unemployment at 10% and a host of mid-high level issues in the community.

    The crime rate is hard to establish because the black crime rate inflate the American born crime rate; crimes reported as being perpetrated by whites, and the Asian crime rate decreases the foreign born crime rate.


    So Johnson will tell you illegal aliens are more law abiding than Americans.

    Trump is tapping into that.

    All we hear from GOP consultants is how Hispanic voters are social and fiscal conservatives which is untrue for the majority of hispanics who vote.
    BOWLING GREEN, Kentucky – Washington liberals are trying to push through the so-called DREAM Act, which creates an official path to Democrat voter registration for 2 million college-age illegal immigrants.
    Rand Paul 2010

    Booker T. Washington:
    Cast it down among the eight millions of Negroes whose habits you know, whose
    fidelity and love you have tested in days when to have proved treacherous meant the ruin of your firesides.

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    There is nothing like ethnic SJWs. Good grief.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywo...or-fires-back/

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    Illegal Immigration Statistics:

    2012 - The Department of Homeland Security estimates that there are 11.4 million unauthorized immigrants living in the United States, down from 11.5 million in 2011. The top countries of origin are:

    -- Mexico (59%)

    -- El Salvador (6%)
    -- Guatemala (5%)
    -- Honduras (3%)
    -- Philippines (3%)

    2012 - The top U.S. states where unauthorized immigrants settle are:


    -- California (25%)

    -- Texas (16%)
    -- Florida (6%)
    -- New York (5%)
    -- Illinois (5%)

    Unauthorized immigrants to the United States tend to be young (61% between ages 25-44) and male (53%). However, 57% of unauthorized immigrants over the age of 45 are female.


    2013 - 662,483 unauthorized immigrants are apprehended. More than 64% are from Mexico.

    2013 - 438,421 unauthorized immigrants are removed from the United States. Approximately 45% of these individuals have prior criminal convictions.

    -- Repatriated to Mexico (72%)

    -- Repatriated to Guatemala (11%)
    -- Repatriated to Honduras (8%)
    -- Repatriated to El Salvador (5%)

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/06/us/imm...cs-fast-facts/

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Even if it were though, it's wrong to punish someone for a crime they haven't committed yet,
    Illegal immigrants who committed crimes come back to the U.S. even after they committed crimes and were deported. See yesterday's murder in San Francisco.
    Last edited by jj-; 07-03-2015 at 11:32 PM.

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