Vladimir Putin Supports Texas Secession Movement

[Aratus]

Duckie... Montreal would have joined suit. It is sorta like askin' which DIXIE state
was to follow SOUTH CAROLINA and when as 1860 becomes 1861. CANADA could
have fragmented apart. It might not have been just one defection! Trust me! As
to Pierre Trudeau, when he became P.M he was rather nice to all our young lads
that went over our mutual border in the 1960s. He's name~dropped in the article.

[Wilf]

Duckie... Montreal would have joined suit. It is sorta like askin' which DIXIE state
was to follow SOUTH CAROLINA and when as 1860 becomes 1861. CANADA could
have fragmented apart. It might not have been just one defection! Trust me! As
to Pierre Trudeau, when he became P.M he was rather nice to all our young lads
that went over our mutual border in the 1960s. He's name~dropped in the article.

1) Montreal (a city) is part of Quebec (a province)
2) Pierre Trudeau was a Francophone and a commited federalist(big goverment type)
3)Canada-Quebec relations is a complex issuse
4) Let's just keep focus on the tread

[Aratus]

1) He was not the prime minster of Canada at that time
2)I do not consider it a bad thing that Trudeau got upset
3) I do agree with your statement about world leaders
being hypocritical with the issuse of succession
4) Fixed [[[[[DUDE YOU NEUTER'D IT. IT AIN'T BROKE.]]]]

Besides, none of the world leaders are hypocrites. Charles de Gaulle was always FREE FRENCH.
Elizabeth II has ruled long and has not had a repeat performance of something like what her
ancestor George III lived through. Her father George VI saw India & Pakistan divide and tragically
be more independent but with turmoil and deaths aplenty in 1947. Putin is Putin. Accepting his
money and knowing it could trigger a low treason case even if he is not a communist now. Again.
he has his reasons for things. Pierre Trudeau was disgusted by our conduct in the Vietnamese War.

[Aratus]

My point being the lil ole city of Montreal/Andorra bolts first,
and then Quebec/Monaco follows was totally missed i see...

[Wilf]

1) He was not the prime minster of Canada at that time
2)I do not consider it a bad thing that Trudeau got upset
3) I do agree with your statement about world leaders
being hypocritical with the issuse of succession
4) Fixed [[[[[DUDE YOU NEUTER'D IT. IT AIN'T BROKE.]]]]

Besides, none of the world leaders are hypocrites. Charles de Gaulle was always FREE FRENCH.
Elizabeth II has ruled long and has not had a repeat performance of something like what her
ancestor George III lived through. Her father George VI saw India & Pakistan divide and tragically
be more independent but with turmoil and deaths aplenty in 1947. Putin is Putin. Accepting his
money and knowing it could trigger a low treason case even if he is not a communist now. Again.
he has his reasons for things. Pierre Trudeau was disgusted by our conduct in the Vietnamese War.

1) Sorry about that cahnge (just trying to correct your statement)
2)The article that you mention pointed out that de Gaulle opposing Brittnay Nationalism
3)Vietnamese war was never popular in Canada, so it made sense that the goverment take a stance to oppose it

[Wilf]

My point being the lil ole city of Montreal/Andorra bolts first,
and then Quebec/Monaco follows was totally missed i see...

Montreal has never made any claims about being seperated or wanted to.

[Aratus]

Charles de Gaulle was a charismatic public speaker. For few hours
Montreal joined France and left Canada. The upper~crusty "Brits" have
been a snobby minority in that city ever since Gen'l Wolfe's finest and
most tragic hour. I agree that Quebec & Montreal have wanted to cease
being part of Canada much longer than anyone in South Carolina has
wanted to bolt from our glorious and grand UNION! France's pro-Vichy
fascists always hated poor heroic Charles de Gaulle! Anyway, fun topic!

[Aratus]

When Charles de Gaulle spoke, if good folks got swept up into his grand visions,
it took several hours to return to our waking reality. Assuming you speak French.

[Wilf]

Charles de Gaulle was a charismatic public speaker. For few hours
Montreal joined France and left Canada. The upper~crusty "Brits" have
been a snobby minority in that city ever since Gen'l Wolfe's finest and
most tragic hour. I agree that Quebec & Montreal have wanted to cease
being part of Canada much longer than anyone in South Carolina has
wanted to bolt from our glorious and grand UNION! France's pro-Vichy
fascists always hated poor heroic Charles de Gaulle! Anyway, fun topic!

Interesting, never thought about 'Vive Le Quebec libre' incident in that context; I always that it was France reconfirming that qubec seperatist had some support. It is kind of interesting what Canadian history books try to avoid

[Aratus]

Tacitly i sound like i would also talk of Abbeville as not being part of South Carolina,
but if you remember your Civil War history, it was technically the last major U.S town
or city Jefferson Davis had under his total and complete control before he skedaddled
further South and was found under a pile of clothes in a fleeing coach in 1865. When he
was last in Abbeville, after leaving Richmond before the great fire, he was still acting as
the defacto president of the Confederacy even as the rest of the state was ceasing to be
an anarchy and coming under UNION control. Abbeville has a distinction well past the
merrie and long life of John C. Calhoun! This is my attempt to contrast de jure to de facto.

[Aratus]

if the Confederacy had any legitimacy at all, Jefferson Davis's last actions if de jure happened in Abbeville and not Richmond.
The collapse of his government places armies independent of a central control, they in time often surrender to a nearby Union
commander. Tacitly, officiating as the president of the Confederacy in the manner he did is obviously de facto, but he might
have been de jure if his loyal troops were helping him flee and avoid Northern troops. Such was the chaos of May/June 1865.