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    Donald Trump Attacks Neocons






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    Donald Trump gave money to the campaigns of Rahm Emanuel, Terry McAwful, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, the Clinton Foundation etc etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Donald Trump gave money to the campaigns of Rahm Emanuel, Terry McAwful, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, the Clinton Foundation etc etc.
    Trump is the only one, the first well known person I know to have deservedly called out Krauthammer for not apologizing.

    As to your irrelevant point, yeah, you also gave money to politicians when you paid a tax. The payments Trump made are similar bribes, but to protect business. That's unfortunately just what you have to do to run a major business in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post

    As to your irrelevant point, yeah, you also gave money to politicians when you paid a tax. Those are similar bribes, but to protect business.
    That has to be the most ridiculous defense of someone I have ever seen in my life. You really think Russian peasants were comparable to those who bankrolled Stalin?

    Trump has been a blatant Clinton and big government Democrat supporter in the past, and I'm going to keep calling him on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    That has to be the most ridiculous defense of someone I have ever seen in my life.
    That says a lot about how utterly uninformed you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    You really think Russian peasants were comparable to those who bankrolled Stalin?
    If you make a lot of money and pay taxes, you pay 60%. For example, Bill Maher pays that. So you could argue he is "bankrolling" the regime. Is he morally reprehensible for that? I don't think so. I see the millionaire payments Maher makes similar in status to the bribes Trump pays to be able to run his business. It's in a different form because it's a different business.

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    HAHAHA, omg that was awesome. Doubt I would ever vote for Trump, but you have to admit he's going to make the race entertaining. Simultaneously attacking Neocons while enlarging his own ego sky high with the backdrop of the escalator LOL.
    Last edited by orenbus; 06-19-2015 at 02:28 PM.
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    As long as Trump criticizes neocons I won't criticize Trump.

    The enemy of my enemy something, something, something...

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    This makes for good political theater but I'd be about as likely to support Trump as I would Hillary Clinton (aka no chance at all). Trump may say a few things that people like, and I think he knows there is underlying resentment at the Neo-cons even outside of Rand's support base, but he has way too many strikes against him, not the least of which being his connection with the Clintons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post
    Trump is the only one, the first well known person I know to have deservedly called out Krauthammer for not apologizing.
    Rand Paul? I think he counts as well known. You must have missed the Megan Kelly interview where Rand went pretty ballistic on Krauthammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    HAHAHA, omg that was awesome. Doubt I would ever vote for Trump, but you have to admit he's going to make the race entertaining. Simultaneously attacking Neocons while enlarging his own ego sky high with the backdrop of the escalator LOL.
    Actually, this [Trump trashing the neocons] could turn out to be a big plus for us. Hear me out:

    Make no mistake, there are (admittedly, low-information) voters who are attracted to Trump. It's a style-over-substance thing. They are almost without exception,
    " 'Murica!" people. They are out there, and in some numbers, trust me. Take a look at Trump's polling numbers. Yes, I know that it is a disheartening thing and a sour insight into human nature, but that's just the way it is. The morning after Trump's announcement, we got calls and walk-ins to the Republican HQ where I volunteer, looking for bumper stickers and signs. (No, we don't have them, and we never will if I have anything to do with it).

    Now, these people are faced with cognitive dissonance. People like Krauthammer, who they obediently lined up behind up to now, are being taken down by their Celebrity Apprentice idol. What to do, what to think? Some of them might find that both Krauthammer and Trump are wrong, and open their minds to new ways of thinking.

    As for the others, who will now stick with Trump's "Bomb their ass, take their gas" philosophy...and will reject those who like Krauthammer are not neocon enough...well, they were never going to vote for Rand anyway. But their vote is now one that is split away from other, ultimately more dangerous and viable, neocon candidates.
    Last edited by francisco; 06-19-2015 at 04:44 PM.
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    Gee . . . another politician with no guiding principles who says whatever he thinks will get him elected. So refreshing.
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    I could be wrong, but isn't Trump's position that America should have stolen all of Iraq's oil? That's not anything to support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sola_Fide View Post
    I could be wrong, but isn't Trump's position that America should have stolen all of Iraq's oil? That's not anything to support.
    Yes and it still is his position. From what I remember (this was from a while ago so it could be wrong) he said the biggest mistake in invading Iraq was that we didn't take their resources to pay us back for "freeing" them.

    Still I have no problem with Trump attacking the neocons, it takes the heat off of Rand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Donald Trump gave money to the campaigns of Rahm Emanuel, Terry McAwful, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, the Clinton Foundation etc etc.
    Who cares? I love this! Don't be a wet blanket!

    Go Trump, go! Man, I hope he's like this in the debates. It will be VERY NICE to have one more anti-war(ish) voice on stage.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastiat's The Law View Post
    As long as Trump criticizes neocons I won't criticize Trump.
    I don't think Rand should criticize Trump at all! I think actually he should go out of his way to say nice things about Trump, like about him being a businessman and how we need more businessmen and people with real life experience. Trump is an anti-establishment(ish) choice. He'll appeal to people sick of politicians, just like Ben Carson. Rand should be very, very nice to both! Just keep piling on Hillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    I don't think Rand should criticize Trump at all! I think actually he should go out of his way to say nice things about Trump, like about him being a businessman and how we need more businessmen and people with real life experience. Trump is an anti-establishment(ish) choice. He'll appeal to people sick of politicians, just like Ben Carson. Rand should be very, very nice to both! Just keep piling on Hillary.
    Yea sure, a repeat of 2012 with Mitt Romney!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Yea sure, a repeat of 2012 with Mitt Romney!
    Trump isn't the frontrunner and as long as Trump is focusing his ire on the neocons and Bush/Rubio then it isn't a bad thing for Rand to stand back when it comes to attacks.

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    Don't get excited over Trump. I know nobody here will vote for him, I'm just saying that

    1) He still likes Hillary a lot, I think he prefers her over the GOP field.

    2) He's open to running 3rd party

    Which means that he could run against Rand and Hillary in the general election. He'll attack Hillary with force, which will boost her numbers. (consider the source of the attacks) and gain parts of the populist republican vote, so that Hillary wins over a split republican electorate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Rand Paul? I think he counts as well known. You must have missed the Megan Kelly interview where Rand went pretty ballistic on Krauthammer.
    I'm talking specifically about asking Krauthammer to apologize. Rand didn't tell Krauthammer to apologize for helping create ISIS, and this is the first time I see anything close to that.

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    Can't wait to see Lindsey Graham and Trump share a stage and debate foreign policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreigner View Post
    1) He still likes Hillary a lot, I think he prefers her over the GOP field.
    I don't think he'll like her much after today. Hillary blamed Trump for the shooting in Charleston.

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    Trump donated to the NY Dem establishment and to Rahm for access. he probably donated to governors and mayors in most cities he does business in. and while Hillary voted for the stupid war, she did not start it. that was Bush and Chaney. Trump attacking the neocons is a good thing. Rand is no longer alone, and many Trump supporters could become Rand supporters when/if he drops out.

    If it comes down to Bush/Clinton/Trump I would prefer Trump



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    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
    Why did @DanaPerino beg me for a tweet (endorsement) when her book was launched?

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8h8 hours ago
    .@patrickbuchanan thx 4 your great article. Our country is in big trouble w/the dopey politicians that are running it http://buchanan.org/blog/the-anti-politician-16164

    here are two other Trump tweets, attacking Bush supporter Dana Perino, and praising Pat Buchanan

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    It's fun now, but wait until he starts shooting his mouth off about the Pauls. He's done it before and will do it again.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomProsperityPeace View Post
    It's fun now, but wait until he starts shooting his mouth off about the Pauls. He's done it before and will do it again.


    Correct, Trump is making the neocons squirm, but not from disagreeing with their interventionist, big government agenda. Trump really does think they are incompetent dummies and fools, who can't get the job done, whereas he would bomb and knock enough heads around to get it done. He's an establishment water carrier in most other respects, which is why you see him picking fights with the frontrunners, to keep them in the news, not Rand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    HAHAHA, omg that was awesome. Doubt I would ever vote for Trump, but you have to admit he's going to make the race entertaining. Simultaneously attacking Neocons while enlarging his own ego sky high with the backdrop of the escalator LOL.
    Yeah, that's the way I'm looking at it. He's totally correct in going after those neocons.

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    Did no one even bother to explain to 'The Donald' that his very good friend Hillary is also a bloody Neocon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Did no one even bother to explain to 'The Donald' that his very good friend Hillary is also a bloody Neocon?
    He seems to know that. And she seems to be the only neocon in the race that he approves of.
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