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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    Clearly you do not live in Louisiana. I am not vouching for the other 43, but I would have a difficult time ranking him in 7th place among all
    You must have a high opinion of our governors then. And Jindal has done some good things.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard101 View Post
    You must have a high opinion of our governors then. And Jindal has done some good things.
    He's done far more harm than good. Do you live in Louisiana?



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    He's done far more harm than good. Do you live in Louisiana?
    None of the 50 governors are what I would call good. I think most of us would agree. So this argument is rather silly. Unless you have reason to think there are 7 governors better than Jindal, if so, go ahead and name them. I don't know.

    I will say that Jindal was an absolutely awful Congressman.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  6. #34
    I'm just going to leave this here for the Jindal fans. If y'all manage to prop him up to a viable candidate, you can use it as opposition research to help Rand beat him later: (The first one should be of particular interest to Rand supporters)

    Bobby Jindal in violation of law by using state web page to attack opponent

    Jindal used the state computer and web page (and presumably a state employee) to gin out a “press release” personally attacking one of Jindal’s probable opponents for the Republican nomination for president under the headline “Gov. Jindal: Senator Paul unsuited to be Commander-in-Chief.”

    http://www.gov.louisiana.gov/index.cfm?md=newsroom&tmp=detail&articleID=4965

    http://louisianavoice.com/2015/05/27...tack-opponent/


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    FOX 8: Jindal calls controversy over his wife's charity ‘ridiculous'


    Governor Bobby Jindal and his wife are responding to a controversy over her charity.

    A political watchdog group and others say big companies regulated by the state should not be writing big checks to the first lady's foundation.

    As first lady, Supriya Jindal has made the betterment of children her cause. She founded the "Supriya Jindal Foundation for Children."

    Campaign laws limit the amount those companies can give directly to the governor's campaign war chest, but not Mrs. Jindal's charity, and critics said by accepting the money, it creates an appearance of unethical behavior.

    http://www.labucketbrigade.org/blog/...ity-ridiculous


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    Louisiana State Police leader sees retirement boost through last-minute legislation


    State lawmakers and a retirement board that oversees law enforcement pensions are calling for an investigation after the Louisiana Legislature and Gov. Bobby Jindal quietly approved a provision in June to boost the retirement benefits of the head of the Louisiana State Police.


    Col. Mike Edmonson and just one other state trooper will benefit from a new law to increase retirement packages for people enrolled in a pension plan no longer offered. The change was tacked on to a unrelated bill on the last day of the state lawmaking session.

    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...e_retirem.html


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    Bobby Jindal Remains Grover Norquist’s Puppet Governor Despite Louisiana Budget Mess

    Despite Louisiana facing a 1.6 billion dollar budget hole, Governor Bobby Jindal (R) is still trying to honor his “no tax pledge” to anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist. To avoid raising taxes, Jindal is trying to push for crippling cuts to higher education and social programs.

    [...]

    Bobby Jindal has become so steadfastly loyal to Norquist, that he has forgotten who he works for. Jindal’s job is to represent the people of Louisiana, but the puppet governor apparently believes he works for Grover Norquist in Washington D.C. As Jindal contemplates a run for the presidency, he may soon discover that voters are looking for a leader and not a puppet.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/...dget-mess.html
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    Gov. Bobby Jindal flip-flops on Common Core: James Varney

    It surprises no one to learn Gov. Bobby Jindal has an eye on a presidential campaign in 2016. But even close allies in Baton Rouge were stunned Monday when he formally flip-flopped on Common Core.



    For some reason, late in his tenure, Jindal seems to go gooey when the Louisiana Legislature fills the Capitol. One year ago, in his opening address to the legislative session, he abandoned a tax overhaul he and his lieutenants had spent weeks pitching. This week, halfway through a session in which Common Core was a known lightning rod going in, he abandoned his eloquent spokespeople and his legislative friends.


    Jindal's reversal left some lawmakers aghast. Most everyone pegged the turnaround as a naked attempt to curry favor with a conservative base that has grown increasingly uncomfortable with Common Core.

    http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.s...common_co.html


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    Jindal Health Secretary Resigns amid Investigation


    BATON ROUGE, La. — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's health secretary, Bruce Greenstein, is resigning amid ongoing state and federal probes into the awarding of a Medicaid contract to a company where Greenstein once worked.

    The Jindal administration canceled the nearly $200 million state contract with Maryland-based CNSI last week after details leaked of a federal grand jury subpoena involving the contract award.

    The governor's office announced Greenstein's decision Friday. His resignation takes effect May 1. Jindal spokesman Kyle Plotkin says the governor didn't ask Greenstein to leave.

    When the Medicaid contract was awarded two years ago, Greenstein denied any involvement in the selection. But he acknowledged that a change he pushed in the bid solicitation made CNSI eligible.

    http://www.newsmax.com/US/US-Jindal-.../29/id/497008/



    there's so much more but I have other things to do.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post


    there's so much more but I have other things to do.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-On-The-Record
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  8. #36
    Cato needs to update their rankings. Pence should not be #4.

    He has been bought and paid for by the chamber of commerce.

    Pence's baby from this year:
    Www.noregionalcities.com
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    Cato needs to update their rankings. Pence should not be #4.

    He has been bought and paid for by the chamber of commerce.

    Pence's baby from this year:
    Www.noregionalcities.com
    More proof that all Governors suck. Greg Abbott may be one of the least bad in the nation, but he managed to push Government funding of Pre-K this session.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  10. #38
    One more Bobby Jindal story:

    Chalk up another victim to the Petulance of Piyush. This time it’s Office of Group Benefits (OGB) CEO Tommy Teague, the man who refused to throw his employees under the bus to satisfy the governor’s gargantuan ego.

    Teague, asked to resign or be fired late Friday by Deputy Commissioner of Administration Mark Brady, refused to step down voluntarily and was terminated. Teague told the Baton Rouge Advocate that Brady gave no reason for his action. The locks to Teague’s office door were changed and his computer seized after he left OGB Friday.

    He was six months away from qualifying for retirement.

    The latest development is clear evidence of the high stakes in this game. There is an OGB surplus of $500 million on the table and Jindal wants it to help plug a hole in his budget.

    What will he do next year, install parking meters in all the state employee parking garages?

    Only 18 months ago, Teague’s wife, Melody Teague, a Department of Social Services contract grants reviewer, was canned one day after she had the temerity to publicly criticize the Piyush Push (yeah, we like that phrase) to privatize everything that moves in state government.

    Her remarks were made during an Oct. 1, 2009, state Commission for Streamlining Government forum in Jefferson Parish.

    Tommy Teague was shown the door after word leaked out that Brady apparently brought in the international investment banking firm of Goldman Sachs last fall to help plan the privatization of OGB and that Brady had ties to Goldman Sachs from a previous position as executive director of the Arab Banking Association of North America.

    OGB, or perhaps more accurately, the Division of Administration, enlisted the aid of Goldman Sachs to write specifications for a request for proposals (RFP) for a firm to conduct financial assessment of OGB and to market the agency to a private buyer that would keep as much as $350 million of OGB’s $500 million surplus as part of the purchase of assets that would also include premiums to be paid by state employees for health coverage.

    When proposals were opened a few weeks ago, voila! Goldman Sachs was the only bidder. In most circles, public and private, that would be considered a glaring conflict of interests. A Senate report released Thursday roundly criticized Goldman Sachs for helping to bring about the financial crisis of 2008. Now the firm stands to net $6 million for doing a financial assessment of OGB and for trying to find a buyer. The $6 million will be paid whether or not Goldman Sachs is successful in its efforts.

    Firing people seems to be Jindal’s favorite way of dealing with a problem. Some others leave to cash in on their connections established and some others leave voluntarily, out of disgust.

    Like Richard Sherburne, who resigned as State Ethics Administrator after Jindal gutted the Ethics Board’s adjudicatory authority and gave it to administrative law judges. That couldn’t have been because Jindal had been fined by the State Ethics Board for campaign violations.

    Then, there was Jim Champagne, executive director of the Louisiana Highway Safety commission for 12 years, whose passion was driver safety. Champagne made the fatal mistake of disagreeing with Jindal’s decision to repeal the state’s motorcycle helmet law and poof! He was gone.

    Jindal tried to get Tammie McDaniel to resign her seat on the Board of Elementary and Secondary Education because she refused to go along with some of his education reform programs. She refused at first but finally stepped down.

    Ann Williamson “resigned” her position at the Department of Social Services after complications were experienced with assistance programs following Hurricane Gustav.

    William Ankner was Secretary of the Department of Transportation and Developments but after a $60 million highway construction contract was awarded to the high bidder, he was shown the door.

    Most recently, Roland Toups of Baton Rouge, the longest-serving member of the Louisiana Board of Regents, resigned under not-so-subtle pressure from Jindal so that he could appoint vascular surgeon Dr. Albert Sam, II, an African-American to the board.

    Toups showed a lot of class in stepping down, saying he felt a “responsibility.” Jindal denied the move had anything to do with a lawsuit filed by students at Southern University over the all-white makeup of the Regents. Yeah, right.

    Ironically enough, in Sam’s first vote as a member of the board, he voted against Jindal’s proposal to merge the University of New Orleans and Southern University-New Orleans. So much for strategy.

    So now, apparently it was Tommy Teague’s turn.

    Terague’s wife, by the way, was reinstated after she filed legal action against the state. Tommy Teague might not be so lucky. He was an unclassified employee who served at the pleasure of the Division of Administration.

    State Sen. Butch Gautreaux (D-Morgan City), a member of the OGB board of directors, is an outspoken opponent of the sale of the agency, even going so far as to write a letter to his fellow legislators to ask their support in opposing the sale. “Help me let everyone know that we are not afraid and we are not for sale,” he wrote.

    He attributed Jindal’s rise to power to what he called “predatory politics.” He said Jindal’s mindset appears to be “Let’s take out the weakest in the herd, employees who are afraid of losing their jobs. The general public loves it.”

    Indeed, Jindal has consistently shown that he holds state employees in utter disdain by selling off their jobs, raising the employee contributions to retirement and health benefit programs while denying civil service workers merit raises for the second year in a row.

    Not satisfied with that, he displayed the height of arrogance and contempt on Thursday by issuing a “State Employee Appreciation Day” proclamation.

    Employees could almost see the smirk on this face as he signed it.
    http://louisianavoice.com/2011/04/15...l-youre-fired/

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    More proof that all Governors suck. Greg Abbott may be one of the least bad in the nation, but he managed to push Government funding of Pre-K this session.
    Pence wants that bad as well.

    Cradle to grave baby... Cradle to grave.
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post

    Gov. Bobby Jindal flip-flops on Common Core: James Varney

    It surprises no one to learn Gov. Bobby Jindal has an eye on a presidential campaign in 2016. But even close allies in Baton Rouge were stunned Monday when he formally flip-flopped on Common Core.



    For some reason, late in his tenure, Jindal seems to go gooey when the Louisiana Legislature fills the Capitol. One year ago, in his opening address to the legislative session, he abandoned a tax overhaul he and his lieutenants had spent weeks pitching. This week, halfway through a session in which Common Core was a known lightning rod going in, he abandoned his eloquent spokespeople and his legislative friends.


    Jindal's reversal left some lawmakers aghast. Most everyone pegged the turnaround as a naked attempt to curry favor with a conservative base that has grown increasingly uncomfortable with Common Core.

    http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.s...common_co.html

    At least he flip flopped to the right position, right?



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    ...lol at paul lepage fans!!!

    ...lepage is yet another gd fool republican puppet who screams about 'welfare' for the little guy...never uttering a stinking peep about bank$ter welfare..another gd republicrat fool working his hole about illion$ whilst ignorant of the hideous origin and nature of even one 'dollar'..

    ...the loud gd republican fool also wants dozens more state drug pigs...as if the jails and court systems aren't $wamped already...

  15. #42
    I cannot say who the best IS, but the best will be the one who is a black, lesbian, ultra-progressive, transgendered with a 14" pecker, man-hating, white-hating goddless [sic] psychofreakanapes. It will set everything equal and we, the vile scum who believe in things like decency and industry will be put to our ends in cleanse of the earth.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

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  16. #43
    I think the governors should all get together once or twice a year in sort of a conference. They could even take questions in a press forum. First of all it would build recognition with a national audience, and help voters become aware of the successful policies other states are pursuing. Second of all, Governors could be a POWERFUL lobby group if they put their minds to it. But they need to act in concert with one another. Third of all, if any state or group of states wanted to break it off with the Feds, they'd need to be freindly and familiar with each other.

    Governors should really be the most powerful politicians in the country.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    I think the governors should all get together once or twice a year in sort of a conference. They could even take questions in a press forum. First of all it would build recognition with a national audience, and help voters become aware of the successful policies other states are pursuing. Second of all, Governors could be a POWERFUL lobby group if they put their minds to it. But they need to act in concert with one another. Third of all, if any state or group of states wanted to break it off with the Feds, they'd need to be freindly and familiar with each other.

    Governors should really be the most powerful politicians in the country.
    Or we could do away with the 17th amendment.
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

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