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    Credibility of local NAACP leader Rachel Dolezal questioned

    Controversy is swirling around one of the Inland Northwest’s most prominent civil rights activists, with family members of Rachel Dolezal saying the local leader of the NAACP has been falsely portraying herself as black for years.

    Dolezal, 37, avoided answering questions directly about her race and ethnicity Thursday, saying, “I feel like I owe my executive committee a conversation” before engaging in a broader discussion with the community about what she described as a “multi-layered” issue.

    “That question is not as easy as it seems,” she said after being contacted at Eastern Washington University, where she’s a part-time professor in the Africana Studies Program. “There’s a lot of complexities … and I don’t know that everyone would understand that.”

    Later, in an apparent reference to studies tracing the scientific origins of human life to Africa, Dolezal added: “We’re all from the African continent.”
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    Insanity. So she's not black enough to be in a group of "colored people?"

    I would laugh if it wasn't so darn insane..

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    Skin color should be irrelevant unless you are a dermatologist.

    Pretending to have a certain background to fit in, really pathetic.

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    Yes. I consider myself to be black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    Insanity. So she's not black enough to be in a group of "colored people?"

    I would laugh if it wasn't so darn insane..
    Well:


    It is insane but still; clearly she isn't black she shouldn't be trying to pass herself off as "black". she should just embrace who she really is.

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    Liberal logic-

    Guys says he is a girl - it's ok, he's a girl.

    White girl says she is is black - aw hell no

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    If some Tee-Vee actor can lop off his dick and put on some lipstick and call himself a woman then why can't some white chick get a perm and a sun tan and call herself black?

    More importantly who really cares?



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    Transracial.
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    Hey- if Michael Jackson can be white, why not?

    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 06-12-2015 at 01:40 PM.

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    Her 'outing' interview. I don't usually bite on stuff like this but the last 1:30 is too good as she gets busted.




    Fwiw, I can't imagine anyone really thought she was black in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Her 'outing' interview. I don't usually bite on stuff like this but the last 1:30 is too good as she gets busted.




    Fwiw, I can't imagine anyone really thought she was black in the first place.

    She's got an afro and a nose ring. Must be black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    She's the anti-Michael Jackson. That guy spent his whole life getting whiter and whiter. She's doing the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    Insanity. So she's not black enough to be in a group of "colored people?"

    I would laugh if it wasn't so darn insane..
    Where the hell did you get that from the story? Not quite sure what the controversy is all about. People are trying to say she lied but I am yet to see where this woman claimed that she was African American. Also the NAACP doesn't seem to have a problem with her and if I remember correctly, the NAACP was founded by white people.

    Also just like in this case, Michael Jackson never said he was trying to be white, he just did what he did, adopting white kids and changing his skin color but not evidence of him lying about his race. We all knew what he was doing but still there is no evidence of him claiming to be white now

    I see this is big news now. I wonder if Stefan Molyneaux up right now working on his "Truth about Rachel Dolezal". Trying to pretend to be a psychologist, psychoanalyzing her and make $#@! up.
    Last edited by juleswin; 06-13-2015 at 04:35 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    If some Tee-Vee actor can lop off his dick and put on some lipstick and call himself a woman then why can't some white chick get a perm and a sun tan and call herself black?

    More importantly who really cares?
    Right. I'm one who thinks that Jenner is a man, and any efforts to convince me otherwise I take as almost an assault. Not fan of gay marriage either. If there's a thing that if everybody did it, humans would go extinct, I'm against that thing. Gay marriage and sex changes are those things, if everyone did them, no more humans in 130 years. Extinctionary is bad public policy as I see it.

    But I'm with most people, in saying that Jenner = Rachel. From what I'm seeing, most of the Jenner = Woman are also Rachel = Black. There are very few Jenner = Woman, Rachel = White. And most of that attitude comes from the media, and the arguments usually contain versions "because I said so", and there's a surprising amount of pushback against the "because I said so" argument. The media is really outnumbered here, the people are not with them, they're figuring out that the media isn't selling "who are what you say you are" but a LGBT or whatever it is wishlist.

    Transracial should be able to bring down transsexual, which should be able to bring down gay marriage.

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    Orange is the new black?
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Not quite sure what the controversy is all about. People are trying to say she lied but I am yet to see where this woman claimed that she was African American.
    While it seems as yet unclear whether she has explicitly lied about being African American, she has apparently lied about a number of other things.

    FTA: http://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/stop..._unforgivable/
    The Chicago Tribune reports that “Rachel Dolezal has said she has biracial parents, was abused by a step-father, and lived in South Africa as a child. Her parents say they are white. They also say she never had a step-father, and though the couple did live in South Africa, it was from 2002 to 2006, it was after Rachel had left the house and married.” [...] The family also says that she has claimed that her now 21 year-old adopted brother, who is African American, is her son.
    (h/t Lew Rockwell: https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/alleged-scandal/)
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    “When Rachel applied to Howard University to study art with a portfolio of ‘exclusively African American portraiture,’ the university ‘took her for a black woman’ and gave her a full scholarship.”
    LOL. This is like a modern day version of the movie Soul Man with a woman playing the lead role.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091991/
    To achieve his dream of attending Harvard, a pampered teen poses as a young black man to receive a full scholarship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    While it seems as yet unclear whether she has explicitly lied about being African American, she has apparently lied about a number of other things.

    FTA: http://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/stop..._unforgivable/


    (h/t Lew Rockwell: https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/alleged-scandal/)
    Hopefully, in a few weeks we will know for sure if she really lied or just sorta lied by omission. Right now, a lot of the accusations are just hearsay. But again, why are people outraged about this story? the NAACP don't seem to be bothered by it, the black people of Spokane don't mind her. In fact I read somewhere that she single handedly revived the NAACP chapter she was the president of.

    So, I will just save my outrage until I see proof that she lied to about his race to govt officials to get a leg up.

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    Of course her credibility should be questioned, if anyone can find it. Good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    Right. I'm one who thinks that Jenner is a man, and any efforts to convince me otherwise I take as almost an assault.
    I thought this was the best article yet:
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/next-...naacp-20150612

    You could take any number of these answers by the former editor of Jet and Ebony, change the words from Jenner to Dolezal and woman to black and be labeled a bigot or worse.

    eg:
    It takes more than a haircut to be Black. It takes more than being married to a black man to be Black. You can be empathetic and respectful of a culture without appropriating and impersonating it.
    That's ridiculous. Unless you have a mental disorder, there's no way to wake up confused about your ethnic identity. Dolezal assumed what she perceived as the identity of a black woman with clear intent to live out a life that was foreign and different from her own. The fact that she associated herself with black people and married a black man does not justify her actions in any way.
    Jet and Ebony readers will find it very ironic that this woman who was born with the inherent privileges that the rest of us are striving for would choose to be on the side of the underdog.
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    This lady seems to have some really serious issues, that really do need to be looked into.

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    Off the wall speculative theory, perhaps she was black in some previous lifetime(s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Off the wall speculative theory, perhaps she was black in some previous lifetime(s).
    Or has some genetic memory link to a black person in her ancestry? Or she's just a nut job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Or has some genetic memory link to a black person in her ancestry? Or she's just a nut job.
    Perhaps some hypnotic past life regression sessions would be helpful and provide some information and answers.

    Maybe she thinks black folks are cooler than white folks, and is just simply a wannabe. <shrug>

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    trans-ethnic. A new protected class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    trans-ethnic. A new protected class.
    A looney.

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