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Thread: Illegal Immigrant Charged With Rape, Sodomy Of 10-Year-Old Alabama Girl

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    Exclamation Illegal Immigrant Charged With Rape, Sodomy Of 10-Year-Old Alabama Girl




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    Oh $#@!, didn't know. It was cool where I come from?

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    The illegal was living in their home. WTF?
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    What's a little child rape when it comes to having diversity?
    NeoReactionary. American High Tory.

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    In before Danno's "girls develope early and can look older" spiel.

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    I'm sure he was just here to do some job Americans won't do...
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    Law breakers don't really care much about what laws they break. All here illegally need to be deported. All that have stayed beyond their work visas should also be deported without no right to return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    I'm sure he was just here to do some job Americans won't do...
    They are all here to do things Americans won't do, otherwise the elite wouldn't let them come here. We seriously need to take our country back before there is nothing left to take back.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    Law breakers don't really care much about what laws they break.
    This is a very dangerous idea, IMO, and leaves the door wide open for some of the most statist interpretations of right vs. wrong. Transgressing against the temporal edicts of governments is in no way the moral equivalent of committing violence against actual, living beings. I break the law pretty much every day, yet I'd sooner eat a bullet than even think of harming a child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyRey View Post
    This is a very dangerous idea, IMO, and leaves the door wide open for some of the most statist interpretations of right vs. wrong. Transgressing against the temporal edicts of governments is in no way the moral equivalent of committing violence against actual, living beings. I break the law pretty much every day, yet I'd sooner eat a bullet than even think of harming a child.
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    You know, I'm not really a open borders guy but just take the illegal tag off because I'm pretty sure this isn't acceptable where he came from either. That poor girl paid the price for her parents bad choices. The article doesn't say what nationality the parents are, if they're South American or just do gooder Catholics or what.

    It's a disgusting thing no matter what but I work around these guys all the time and while I vehemently disagree with the influx because I believe they are being used as tools to further advance the governments agenda of total control I don't see them as any worse human beings and we have plenty of these sicko's born right here in the good old USA.
    "The Patriarch"

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    OK. That's it. This finally solves the debate. No more immigration. The .000002% just blew it for the rest. Makes perfect sense to me. It's simply amazing how relevant this story could be construed in a policy making context, rather than in a local crime context.
    Last edited by anaconda; 05-21-2015 at 06:01 PM.

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    I'm for open borders and for executing this criminal if he is convicted. Making this about immigration is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    I'm for open borders and for executing this criminal if he is convicted. Making this about immigration is stupid.
    I agree with your last sentence. But what jurisdiction will execute him if there are no borders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    I agree with your last sentence. But what jurisdiction will execute him if there are no borders?
    Wait, what?????!!!!
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    I agree with your last sentence. But what jurisdiction will execute him if there are no borders?
    "open borders" doesn't mean "no borders." If you commit a crime* in a location, that location has the right to punish you regardless of whether you are actually from there or not. Doesn't matter.

    *I'm assuming the legitimacy of the law here, which seeing as we are talking about rape, it should be assumed legitimate. I realize unjust laws are a different issue.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    "open borders" doesn't mean "no borders." If you commit a crime* in a location, that location has the right to punish you regardless of whether you are actually from there or not. Doesn't matter.

    *I'm assuming the legitimacy of the law here, which seeing as we are talking about rape, it should be assumed legitimate. I realize unjust laws are a different issue.
    My bad. You're right. Open borders are not no borders. I didn't read carefully enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    My bad. You're right. Open borders are not no borders. I didn't read carefully enough.
    No problem. I very strongly believe in having borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    My bad. You're right. Open borders are not no borders. I didn't read carefully enough.
    Opening a border effectively means not having them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    Opening a border effectively means not having them.
    No it doesn't. You don't have to restrict immigration to have a border

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    No it doesn't. You don't have to restrict immigration to have a border
    What do you have to do to have a border?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    Opening a border effectively means not having them.
    This occurred to me as well in this thread. I'd like to hear your take on this. Seems like a potentially deep subject for discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    What do you have to do to have a border?
    Don't know exactly. However, I think Christian Liberty is suggesting that geographically drawn lines separate lawful jurisdictions but present no travel or residence restrictions. The first question that pops into my dull brain is how many generations would this apply to?

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    Family info not released. Let me guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Don't know exactly. However, I think Christian Liberty is suggesting that geographically drawn lines separate lawful jurisdictions but present no travel or residence restrictions. The first question that pops into my dull brain is how many generations would this apply to?
    We obviously need to rethink the current definition, but without granting a world governing authority.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyJ View Post
    Law breakers don't really care much about what laws they break. All here illegally need to be deported. All that have stayed beyond their work visas should also be deported without no right to return.
    Let's start house to house and business by business raids to round them all up. Might as well set up random traffic stops too to check and make sure everybody has the proper papers. Can't afford to let any slip through the cracks. Gonna need a bigger DHS and police force for the job. Maybe use the NSA to track all communications too so we know where they are hiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    What do you have to do to have a border?
    The area is your nation's jurisdiction, that nation's laws apply, the nation can set law for citizenship (though it shouldn't set laws for residency), it can and should set rules for welfare programs if it insists on having them, and foreign invasion of those borders is an act of war.

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    foreign invasion of those borders is an act of war.
    What constitutes "foreign invasion"? Is that a military action? Or somebody simply walking across a line on a map? "Invasion" implies hostile intent- especially if you want to categorize it as an "act of war". Also of note- about half of those in the country entered it on a legal basis and over-stayed their visa (student, tourist, work visas, etc).

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/invasion

    invasion [in-vey-zhuh n]

    noun
    1. an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, especially by an army.
    2. the entrance or advent of anything troublesome or harmful, as disease.
    3. entrance as if to take possession or overrun: the annual invasion of the resort by tourists.
    4. infringement by intrusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    foreign invasion of those borders is an act of war.
    How do you define foreign invasion though? Last time we talked about this it didn't sound like you thought any country should try to keep thugs out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    How do you define foreign invasion though? Last time we talked about this it didn't sound like you thought any country should try to keep thugs out.
    You probably misunderstood me.

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