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    Los Angeles City Council votes to increase minimum wage to $15/hr

    L.A. City Council approves increase in city's minimum wage to $15 by 2020

    The Los Angeles City Council tentatively agreed Tuesday to raise the city’s minimum wage to $15 per hour, joining a trend sweeping cities across the country as elected leaders seek to address stagnating pay for workers on the lowest rungs of the socio-economic ladder.

    The ordinance would boost the $9 an hour base wage to $15 by 2020 for as many as 800,000 workers, city officials say, and make L.A. the largest U.S. city to adopt a major minimum-wage increase. Chicago, San Francisco and Seattle already have adopted similar laws.

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    Tuesday's 14-1 vote was the latest demonstration of organized labor’s clout at City Hall. Through close to a year of often-emotional debate, labor leaders never gave ground on their central demand that the minimum wage rise to at least $15.

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    The council’s plan will now be submitted to the city attorney’s office, which will draft an ordinance that will return to council members later this year for approval.

    After that, the wage increase would be signed into law by the mayor, with the first wage boost – to $10.50 per hour – taking effect in July 2016.
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    By 2020 15 bucks an hour will be the equivalent of 11 bucks an hour now, so it shouldn't hurt LA businesses any considering most pay 11 bucks an hour or more now.

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    The ordinance would boost the $9 an hour base wage to $15 by 2020 for as many as 800,000 workers
    How much you want to bet it increases it for only 600,000 and leaves 200k unemployed?

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    It'll be interesting to see how this works out on a city by city basis. Some places it might work, others not as much. I'd guess Seattle and San Fran should be ok. Wouldn't be so sure about Chicago and LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    How much you want to bet it increases it for only 600,000 and leaves 200k unemployed?
    I think you might be optimistic.
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    I want all of CA to do this ASAP, make themselves an example, show why this is such a bad idea. That and i just have a very deep hatred for all things government in CA (my birth state).

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    If a little is good, more is better. I call your 15 and raise you another 10. Make it $25 now and be done with it. Workers will have enough money for daycare, vacation at Disney world, will be off welfare. It will be an economic boom to the city.



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    Good luck with that....


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    Eh. Inflation will eat it up like it does everything else.
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    Seattle lost many eateries. I guess LA is next.

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    The Los Angeles City Council tentatively agreed Tuesday to raise the city’s minimum wage to $15 per hour unemployment, joining a trend sweeping cities across the country as elected leaders seek to address stagnating pay for impoverish and thus win the votes of workers on the lowest rungs of the socio-economic ladder.

    The ordinance would boost the $9 an hour base wage to $15 misery and desperation by 2020 for as many as 800,000 workers, city officials say, and make L.A. the largest U.S. city to adopt a major minimum-wage increase resemble the Democratic Republic of Congo. Chicago, San Francisco and Seattle already have adopted similar laws.

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    Tuesday's 14-1 vote was the latest demonstration of organized labor’s clout at City Hall. Through close to a year of often-emotional debate, labor leaders never gave ground on their central demand that the minimum wage rise to at least $15 bread should be taken from the mouths of the poor to finance additional hookers and blow for union leaders.

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    The council’s plan will now be submitted to the city attorney’s office, which will draft an ordinance that will return to council members later this year for approval.

    After that, the wage increase death-blow to the city's poor would be signed into law by the mayor, with the first wage boost – to $10.50 per hour – hunger riots likely taking effect in July 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Seattle lost many eateries. I guess LA is next.
    Not true. Seattle still is growing, and so are the number of restaurants, cafes, and eateries. I just read an article about it. There is tons of tech money here.

    And your statement is especially irrelevant, since min wage is only $10 an hour in Seattle right now for tip bearing jobs. So even if restaurants had shut down, it would have nothing to do with minimum wage, which statewide is $9.37/hour.

    And as I have noted in other threads, Ivars (seafood restaurant chain) already pays $15 an hour.

    Non tip jobs pay $11.

    But most jobs pay $12 and $13 at least. Even janitors and such.

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    The big corporate elites wanted this, they've imported foreign workers for decades, they changed the demographics of California and turned it from a moderately conservative state to one run by far-left whackjobs.

    They wanted it, they got it.

    Sad thing is, the rest of the country will soon follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinTime View Post
    The big corporate elites wanted this, they've imported foreign workers for decades, they changed the demographics of California and turned it from a moderately conservative state to one run by far-left whackjobs.

    They wanted it, they got it.

    Sad thing is, the rest of the country will soon follow.
    Both parties support a minimum wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    Both parties support a minimum wage.
    Republicans may not be totally on the side of free market capitalism in the fact that they support A minimum wage. Democrats are alone in supporting a and unrealistic minimum wage for the whole country. That is a whole new level of stupid.

    I would like to see a compromise where both sides agree to put an age requirement on it. Say no minimum wage for citizens 19 and below and say $10+ minimum wage for everybody else.

    This should take care of dems support to raise minimum wage for people who are not teenagers and also work in line with republicans supposed support of the free market



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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    And your statement is especially irrelevant, since min wage is only $10 an hour in Seattle right now for tip bearing jobs. So even if restaurants had shut down, it would have nothing to do with minimum wage, which statewide is $9.37/hour.
    The federal minimum wage tipped employees is $2.15 an hour. Yeah, the tipped employees in Seattle must be making out. Instead of the average of $15 an hour, they might be getting $25 an hour, considering their much higher base pay and that food is more expensive in Seattle. In other words, if you have no skills and want to buy a house, rent a bedroom in Seattle for a few years will taking 2 part-time waiting jobs. You will quickly save up enough money to move to a depressed area (like most of the Midwest) and buy a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    Both parties support a minimum wage.
    Depends. There are several states without a general state minimum wage: AL, LA, MS, NH, SC, and TN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    The federal minimum wage tipped employees is $2.15 an hour. Yeah, the tipped employees in Seattle must be making out. Instead of the average of $15 an hour, they might be getting $25 an hour, considering their much higher base pay and that food is more expensive in Seattle. In other words, if you have no skills and want to buy a house, rent a bedroom in Seattle for a few years will taking 2 part-time waiting jobs. You will quickly save up enough money to move to a depressed area (like most of the Midwest) and buy a house.
    Indeed. The best paying unskilled jobs here are definitely waitresses and bar tenders. I have a friend that waitresses at a higher end restaurant, she makes about $75 an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    Both parties support a minimum wage.
    There's one Republican on the LA city council, and if he supports this its only because he is a saying anything to keep his seat.

    Back to what I said, California has been changed from a moderately conservative state to a insane left-wing lunatic clown car about to go over a cliff and this has happened in about 30 years and its due to mass immigration.
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    Only illegals will be able to work, LOL.

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    Pikers.

    Haters.

    If passing a law is all that is needed, why not make it $100 an hour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Pikers.

    Haters.

    If passing a law is all that is needed, why not make it $100 an hour?
    Why stop there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    Why stop there?
    oh $#@! we can all get rich!

    $1000/hr

    woot!

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    This is what is called artificially re-creating a middle class. As if.
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    all that'll do is kill jobs because they will be giving 1 person the job of 2. But hey, I'd rather do 2 jobs at once and get $15 for the same hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    How much you want to bet it increases it for only 600,000 and leaves 200k unemployed?
    with the gradual increase, it might not make unemployment so obvious, but it will allow cost of living to creep up, making the raise useless if not harmful for the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    with the gradual increase, it might not make unemployment so obvious, but it will allow cost of living to creep up, making the raise useless if not harmful for the rest.
    It will especially be harmful to the middle class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinTime View Post
    It will especially be harmful to the middle class.
    ironically, it was advertised that it intended to create a new middle class. I guess you'll always have a middle class, just not what many want it to be. i don't think it'll hurt the middle class (unless they're business owners) as much as the underclass, barely employed, newly graduated and unemployed.

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    You guys, I have a great idea! Why don't we raise the minimum wage to $100 an hour? More money for everybody! I can't believe nobody's ever thought of this before!

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