Was worried when Cruz showed up, but it looks like he's just here to kiss Rand's butt.
Finally ted cruz shows up.
I am convinced Cruz (who was endorsed by Ron Paul) is a plant by the Paul family to take the neocon vote away from the establishment and then endorse Rand or be his VP.
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Oh and Cruz shows up echoing Lee. Better than nothing. Just twittered Cruz like 20 mins ago asking where is he.
There isn't really a threat to the Senate schedule even if he were to go all the way into tomorrow afternoon. The purpose is to bring this issue front and center into public debate and to win over the public. Rand's drone filibuster had a dramatic effect on public perception on drone policy. Additionally the political points gained from Rand pressing the issue and other Senators (including Cruz) following his lead, are nice.
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Cruz and Mike Lee are both hoping for SCOTUS appointments; neither would make a good VP choice as TX and UT would be sure things
Right, but I think that Wyden probably feels that although the USA Freedom Act isn't perfect, he believes that it's a step in the right direction.
Can anyone give me the tldr of the days events? Is he still going?
What does the FA do towards policing against terrorists that Rand's Filib of the PA doesn't? What are Lee's and Cruz's differences yet they seem to support Rand quite a bit here?
Does Cruz think he's just chilling at the bar with Rand or something? Lots of fluff
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I'm not sure if I necessarily know the specifics, but basically Rand wants to repeal the Patriot Act entirely, Cruz and Lee want to reform it but not repeal it, and people like Rubio and Graham support the Patriot Act as is and even want to expand it.
Wrapping it up now
Cruz really put Rand over
http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/...-blog-20150520McConnell aide: If Paul talks past midnight, he will delay NSA consideration. An aide for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said late Wednesday that if Paul continues his talk-a-thon past midnight, he will succeed in delaying the Senate's possible consideration of any Patriot Act extension, possibly into the weekend or later.
This is significant because the House is due to pack its bags and leave town tomorrow. Because the Patriot Act's spy authorities expire on June 1, the Senate may not be able to pass any surveillance legislation in time before the lower chamber recesses until next month.
If Paul makes it past midnight, the McConnell aide said, he will delay when the Senate—which still needs to address pending trade legislation—can file cloture on any Patriot Act legislation.
It keeps climbing.
Yeah, hopefully Rand collected the votes he needed cuz he's wrapping it up. Good day and may the interviews and media tomorrow help the wind at his and our back(s).
11:50
Rand just relinquished the floor.
Midnight mission accomplished?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...23d_story.htmlIf he keeps talking past midnight, he will delay McConnell from filing a cloture motion on legislation to address the impending Patriot Act lapse, pushing those votes into Saturday or beyond.
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its over
I was hoping for more media coverage today. Hopefully tomorrow?
Ten and a half hours, not bad
I doubt it. Why would it become news tomorrow and not today?
It isn't midnight. See post # 316. so close...
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So does this mean Rand Paul just defeated the patriot act reauthorization? That is pretty huge if you really really really think about it.
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I was hoping for 25 hours. But this will be another one for the books, and i'm sure it will play well on the campaign trail.
I am convinced Cruz was planted by the neocons to trick people like you. The guy is an Israel Firster dressed in liberty clothes.
The way I understand it people who support the USA Freedom Act state that it eliminates the bulk collection of meta data and the data would be held at the provider (telephone company, internet company, etc). The people against the current language of the USA Freedom Act state that it has a loophole that essentially says the NSA can ask the FISA court for the records for a "Person" but the USA Freedom Act explicitly states that a "Person" can be a Corporation (similar to the ruling on Citizens United). So essentially, the NSA can go to the FISA court and ask for all the records of "Verizon" but they also have to state a place from where I understand it. So they can just say "Florida" or perhaps some city/county/etc. The people against the Freedom Act say that they can still get the same metadata they have been getting they just have to go through a couple more steps and channels to get it. At least that is the way I understand it.
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I'm pretty sure Rand knew McConnell or his staff was gone. I guarantee he wouldn't back off 12 minutes early if that wasn't the case.
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