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There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.
It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.
Our words make us the ghosts that we are.
Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.
If that was true you would be able to explain your plan to create the needed unity to overthrow the tyrants. Get started with your next post, okay.
People have not been asking questions about it, that's the problem. They know its sound. Only agents object to it.
The product is freedom and everyone here is supposed to be interested in that, you resist more than most.
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Now you're contradicting yourself. You weren't claiming to sell freedom, but unity through a shared belief in your dogma that free speech serves no purpose other than alter abolish blah blah blah. You weren't selling clean dishes, you were selling dish soap. And your dish soap seems to lack detergent, and you can't or won't explain how it works.
'Get every single dirty dish to unanimously agree that this goop I just pulled out of my differential is soap, and they will instantly be clean as a whistle!!'
And no one is asking questions because when we did, you not only failed to answer any of them, but attacked everyone who asked.
FFs: "Lissen up, everybody! We're here to protect your RIGHTS! Do we have your consent?"
People: "I dunno....it's sounds too good to be true...what's the downside?"
FFs: "There IS NO downside! A downside would mean violating your Rights without your consent! Do we have a deal?"
People: "Sure! We'd be stupid NOT to!"
FF's: "Great! Now give us your money."
People: "Woah...hold on...you can't do that."
FF's: "Of course we can...you gave us your consent ."
All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
-Albert Camus
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
That is untrue. You will be unable to quote me saying such. You misrepresent exactly as a covert manipulating agent would.
The product of unity is freedom, I'm not selling it.
You misrepresent that I say that free speech has "no purpose other than [to] alter [or] abolish.
Free speech serves infinite purposes, but its ultimate purpose is to assure survival, or to stop tyrants destruction to our unalienable rights.
Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 05-25-2015 at 07:56 PM.
Let's assume for a moment government knows best just for giggles and grins to argue the OP. I do not understand how one can promote the Constitution yet claim it does not apply to people. Let us take into consideration for a moment how government has interpreted it. In order to amend the AoC the document required agreement among all states. The Constitution only required ratification of like nine states. The theory goes the source of power of any state is the people therefore the people can override the AoC. They didn't make that theory up totally out of the blue but claims it goes back to the DoI declaring people have the right to change their government, etc. Hence "We the People." On a side note, that in itself is some interesting language. Why do you need we and people in the same phrase? Aren't they both plural? Clearly we can not logically equal people and refer to the same exact thing. Government has always interpreted the Constitution to mean it applies to states and people whereas the AoC only applied to states. Since government has the guns and that is the interpretation that has been coerced upon everyone ... what is the argument exactly? I mean on what basis are you suggesting the constitution does not apply to people or for that matter we the people? Are you proposing some new ethical theory where you are trying to declare your legal theory and interpretation of the constitution is more ethical that how it has been interpreted thus far?
what you are asking sir, is for me to prove a negative. this is not something that I can do.what is the argument exactly? I mean on what basis are you suggesting the constitution does not apply to people or for that matter we the people?
separate the original Constitution from the BOR and all of the amendments.
the BOR was added 3 years later.
now, can you see what I am talking about?
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson.
Would you agree HVAC that they should have explicitly stated as much in the constitution? i.e. would it be smart of us to make a constitutional amendment that clarifies the only authority the federal government has is over the states which wish to be a part of the union?
And (for my own reading pleasure) which authors of the constitution did you find to have the most 'anarchist' tendencies or alignment?
yes, I do.
as can be seen in this very thread. there is MUCH confusion over this point.
we can now look back over 239 years and do an analysis.
I am of the opinion, that the founders wanted to protect the anarchists, from both themselves and the statists.
government, (the state) is in fact the problem, lack of government also creates problems.
to me, it is VERY clear that the founders were not statists. were they therefore anarchists?
probably.
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson.
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Last edited by HVACTech; 05-31-2015 at 02:56 PM.
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson.
Where the people are free there can be no great contrast or distinction among honest citizens in or out of office. In proportion, as the people lose their freedom, every gradation of distinction, between the Governors and governed obtains, until the former become masters, and the latter become slaves. – Anti-Federalist No. 3
I am confident it must be, and that it is, the sincere wish of every true friend to the United States, that there should be a confederated national government, but that it should be one which would have a control over national and external matters only, and not interfere with the internal regulations and police of the different states in the union. Such a government, while it would give us respectability abroad, would not encroach upon, or subvert our liberties at home." – Anti-Federalist No. 5
The source of the apprehensions of this so much dreaded anarchy would upon investigation be found to arise from the artful suggestions of designing men, and not from a rational probability grounded on the actual state of affairs. The least reflection is sufficient to detect the fallacy to show that there is no one circumstance to justify the prediction of such an event. On the contrary a short time will evince, to the utter dismay and confusion of the conspirators, that a perseverance in cramming down their scheme of power upon the freemen of this State [Pennsylvania] will inevitably produce an anarchy destructive of their darling domination, and may kindle a flame prejudicial to their safety. They should be cautious not to trespass too far on the forbearance of freemen when wresting their dearest concerns, but prudently retreat from the gathering storm. – Anti-Federalist No. 6
AF, erowe, et. al have brought so much win into this thread that I regretfully cannot +rep all of it. Beg your pardon, amigos. Peace unto y'all and keep up the good work.
"A principal, which having been generally purchased for two shillings and six pence on the pound, will yield to the holders two hundred and forty per cent. This paper system therefore, though in general an evil, is in this instance attended with the great benefit of enabling the public to cancel a debt upon easy terms, which has been swelled to its enormous size, by as enormous impositions. And the new government, by promising too much, will involve itself in a disreputable breach of faith." - Anti-Federalist No. 12
"If the constitution, offered to your acceptance, be a wise one, calculated to preserve the invaluable blessings of liberty, to secure the inestimable rights of mankind, and promote human happiness, then, if you accept it, you will lay a lasting foundation of happiness for millions yet unborn; generations to come will rise up and call you blessed. You may rejoice in the prospects of this vast extended continent becoming filled with freemen, who will assert the dignity of human nature. You may solace yourselves with the idea, that society, in this favoured land, will fast advance to the highest point of perfection; the human mind will expand in knowledge and virtue, and the golden age be, in some measure, realised. But if, on the other hand, this form of government contains principles that will lead to the subversion of liberty—if it tends to establish a despotism, or, what is worse, a tyrannic aristocracy; then, if you adopt it, this only remaining assylum for liberty will be shut up, and posterity will execrate your memory." – Anti-Federalist No. 17
thank you AF for your wise counsel.
I will now request that my account be closed. (casey jones style) and leave the country.
as you well know, many of us became ex pats in 07.
I stuck around because I believed it was worth both fighting for and saving.
fighting with you, over defending the CONstitution. on RPF's of all places.. has convinced me otherwise.
have fun freezing your ass off up there buddy.
I am going to seek a job in the Caribbean.
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson.
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