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    Exclamation WA-Cops Kill Man Holding a Cellphone, Police Chief Says Officers were Justified

    Where we at now, about 415?

    Poor bastard didn't obey hard enough.


    Cops Kill Man Holding a Cellphone, Police Chief Says Officers were Justified

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man...xyTc3oziRRV.99

    Lakewood, Washington – A 37-year-old man named Daniel Covarrubias was shot and killed by police last month because a cellphone he was holding was mistaken for a gun.

    Covarrubias had reportedly checked himself into a hospital hours before because he was suffering from hallucinations, and somehow he later ended up hiding in a lumber yard, on top of a 25-foot-tall stack of wood.

    Someone called 911 on him because they had seen him running away from police sirens and assumed that he was trying to evade police. In reality, he was experiencing some type of mental health emergency and was frightened by the sound of the sirens.

    When police arrived on the scene, Covarrubias was not violent or threatening with the officers, but he did hold his cell phone up. Possibly to use the light on his phone, or perhaps to use the camera so he could record the police encounter. Whatever his intentions were, the two officers believed that he had a gun and fired nine shots.

    Five of the bullets ended up hitting Covarrubias, ending his life.

    Lakewood Chief Mike Zaro said that the shooting was justified, and he is defending the officers’ decision to use deadly force, even though the victim was unarmed and not harming anyone.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    Holy $#@!, they scored better than 50% this time.
    Must be all that extra training everyone is suggesting.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Someone called 911 on him because they had seen him running away from police sirens and assumed that he was trying to evade police. In reality, he was experiencing some type of mental health emergency and was frightened by the sound of the sirens.
    See something, say something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ...Someone called 911 on him...
    American rat culture on the rise. How charming.

    We proud yet?
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  6. #5
    Well, if you walk around with an object in your hand the same color as a gun, what do you expect cops to think??
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Well, if you walk around with an object in your hand the same color as a gun, what do you expect cops to think??

    Cop+Think= 0
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    Lakewood Chief Mike Zaro said that the shooting was justified
    /end thread

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

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    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    packing the pipe. 420 is upon us.

    oops...sorry. Didn't see the END THREAD call...

    yeah..justified. No further comments are needed.



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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor
    Holy $#@!, they scored better than 50% this time.
    Must be all that extra training everyone is suggesting.
    Pure fluke. Had they turned their pistols on themselves the result would have yielded the usual ca. < 10% hit rate.

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    Last edited by osan; 05-12-2015 at 01:53 PM.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    Cop+Think= << 0
    Acme Equation Repair Inc. fixed that fer'y.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    SERVED. AND. PROTECTED.

    A 37-year-old man named Daniel Covarrubias was shot and killed by police last month because a cellphone he was holding was mistaken for a gun.
    Daniel Covarrubias did this to himself ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 05-12-2015 at 04:11 PM.
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    Expecting the police to police the police has a foregone conclusion......

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    A 37-year-old man named Daniel Covarrubias was shot and killed by police last month because a cellphone he was holding the hand at the end of his arm was mistaken for a gun.
    Fixed it for them.

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    When police arrived on the scene, Covarrubias [held] his cell phone up. [... T]he two officers believed that he had a gun and fired nine shots.

    Five of the bullets ended up hitting Covarrubias, ending his life.
    It took nine shots to put this dangerous reprobate down. Nine shots.

    Clearly, the demands of "officer safety" require that we ban high-capacity magazines for cell phones ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    Cop+Think= 0
    Precisely right. They don't have time to think. If they think for even a second, they die. They have to act on instinct. Survival instinct. Cus its a dangerous job.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    Cop+Think= 0
    Precisely right. They don't have time to think. If they think for even a second, they die. They have to act on instinct. Survival instinct. Cus its a dangerous job.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his



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    Rumors that the cell phone was loaded continue to be under an ongoing investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Rumors that the cell phone was loaded continue to be under an ongoing investigation.
    Terrorists often use cell phones to detonate bombs. There's no telling how many lives they saved.
    When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    Terrorists often use cell phones to detonate bombs. There's no telling how many lives they saved.

    I think I'll just play the odds and SWAG, ZERO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Precisely right. They don't have time to think. If they think for even a second, they die. They have to act on instinct. Survival instinct. Cus its a dangerous job.
    Then cops should kill anyone they come into contact with, because... you never know.
    War is in fact the true nurse of executive aggrandizement. - James Madison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveforliberty View Post
    Then cops should kill anyone they come into contact with, because... you never know.
    Well, killing the mentally ill is really doing them a favor. Hopefully through medical advances we can just abort them before they are born. That's what we do with the down syndrome babies, I think to the tune of around 80 or 90%.

    I probably would've been aborted if I was scheduled to be born in 2050.
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    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    It took nine shots to put this dangerous reprobate down. Nine shots.

    Clearly, the demands of "officer safety" require that we ban high-capacity magazines for cell phones ...
    It was a rookie officer firearm training exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Rumors that the cell phone was loaded continue to be under an ongoing investigation.
    Probably one of those fully-automatic cell phones with high-cap battery that sprays.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Probably one of those fully-automatic cell phones with high-cap battery that sprays.
    Trivializing murders by LE rather than participating in defense of the constitution the LE violated is the kind of thing agents end up doing when demands for accountability demonstrating consistency with their pretense of being Americans are made.

    Most posting here know of my efforts to get effective mental health care made available to Americans. They've been advised of the fact that the 9th circuit district court secretly revised court rules to deprive civil rights plaintiffs of justice when trying to compel local government to obey state health and safety code laws.

    They've been advised and shown how a local newspaper fired and gagged resigning reporters and editors to prevent a story about the lawsuit from getting to the public.

    http://algoxy.com/law/no_free_press/...tsofmedia.html

    But is the need for effective mental health care a part of comments, no. Frivolous, erroneous, trivial banter degrades the issue of the killing by LE is pretty much exclusively what is expressed.

    An example modeling inurement to LE violation of rights and murder of citizens is what I see. An effort to create hopelessness and acceptance of tyranny is what I see.
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 05-17-2015 at 11:18 AM.



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    Well first off, because it just looked way too much like a first generation phaser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Probably one of those fully-automatic cell phones with high-cap battery that sprays.

    An "assault cell phone"?
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher A. Brown View Post
    Trivializing murders by LE rather than participating in defense of the constitution the LE violated is the kind of thing agents end up doing when demands for accountability demonstrating consistency with their pretense of being Americans are made.

    Most posting here know of my efforts to get effective mental health care made available to Americans. They've been advised of the fact that the 9th circuit district court secretly revised court rules to deprive civil rights plaintiffs of justice when trying to compel local government to obey state health and safety code laws.

    They've been advised and shown how a local newspaper fired and gagged resigning reporters and editors to prevent a story about the lawsuit from getting to the public.

    http://algoxy.com/law/no_free_press/...tsofmedia.html

    But is the need for effective mental health care a part of comments, no. Frivolous, erroneous, trivial banter degrades the issue of the killing by LE is pretty much exclusively what is expressed.

    An example modeling inurement to LE violation of rights and murder of citizens is what I see. An effort to create hopelessness and acceptance of tyranny is what I see.

    Oh STFU already.

    Your constant accusations against long-standing, well respected members have moved far beyond wearisome. Give it a rest.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Oh STFU already.

    Your constant accusations against long-standing, well respected members have moved far beyond wearisome. Give it a rest.
    Longstanding amongst a crowd of covert manipulators gaining their respect means nothing to the actual work of defending rights and restoring constitutional government with a population unified around prime constitutional intent.

    Your defense of their unaccountability to reason Indicates you are one of them. Time to ask you the question that determines your sincerity as an American who stands for the 1787 constitution.

    Do you agree and accept that the purpose of free speech is to enable the unity needed to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights?
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 05-17-2015 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher A. Brown View Post
    Longstanding amongst a crowd of covert manipulators gaining their respect means nothing to the actual work of defending rights and restoring constitutional government with a population unified around prime constitutional intent.

    Your defense of their unaccountability to reason Indicates you are one of them. Time to ask you the question that determines your sincerity as an American who stands for the 1787 constitution.

    Do you agree and accept that the purpose of free speech is to enable the unity needed to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights?

    Yawn.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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