Alabama weighs eliminating all marriage licenses

[William Tell]

Alabama weighs eliminating all marriage licenses

— gay or straight



Alabama has been the state most willing to punch back against federal courts on the question of same-sex marriage.


Ahead of a U.S. Supreme Court decision that could nationalize the practice, lawmakers there are looking at more of a bob-and-weave strategy.

From Brian Lyman at the Montgomery Advertiser:

A Senate committee approved a bill Wednesday that would get rid of the license requirement for couples seeking to marry.



Although the bill does not explicitly address the issue, Sen. Greg Albritton, R-Range, the bill’s sponsor, told Senate Judiciary Committee members that the bill was a reaction to the standoff between a federal court and the Alabama Supreme Court over the legal status of same-sex marriage. Albritton described it as a way of “bringing order out of chaos.”

“It does not change standing law in Alabama, whatever the law may be,” Albritton said. “If the law should change in another couple of months or stand, the procedure is the same.”


One conservative school of thought is that government should get out of the marriage game altogether. We’ll see if this catches on.

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2015/04...y-or-straight/

[oyarde]

Eliminating licensing is good .

[phill4paul]

Eliminating licensing is good .

Indeed.

[CaptUSA]

Eliminating licensing is good .

End Licensing. Droit du seigneur will suffice. May the State reign supreme!

[wizardwatson]

I'm against gay marriage like I'm against a lot of other WAY MORE IMPORTANT THINGS.

All of the sudden, because the dates are lining up, and the blood moons, and ISIS, and earthquakes, and realizations of the connections between gay marriage and pre-flood and sodom era, and all this stuff is starting to point to God coming back, everyone's getting a little freaked out.

"It's happening Cletus! We better get our $#@! together! The only way to beat the gays is to ditch marriage altogether! God will understand!"

God is laughing, LAUGHING!, at these pathetic last-ditch efforts to impress Him. And honestly, I'm laughing with him. Another example of people thinking that God can be pleased by the works of men. Ditching marriage is no different than constructing a golden calf. It is pathetic.

Any Christian worth his salt, should see this as a sign only. There isn't anything you can do to stop it. It is WAAAAAAAAY too late.

Consider this ONE statistic on Alabama compared to this ONE statistic on ISIS.

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https://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/sfaa/alabama.html

In Alabama, 81,700 of the 959,278 women of reproductive age became pregnant in 2011. 73% of these pregnancies resulted in live births and 12% in induced abortions.

[that's 9804 abortions IN JUST ALABAMA in 2011]

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...eath-toll.html

What did the UN find? ISIS had carried out attacks deliberately and systematically targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure, with the intention of killing and wounding civilians. The UN concluded that in the first eight months of 2014, at least 9,347 civilians had been killed and at least 17,386 wounded. While all these deaths are not attributable to ISIS alone, ISIS is identified as the primary actor. (The report also documents what could be considered war crimes committed by the Iraqi military.)

[that's 9347 ISIS killings IN ALL OF THE MIDDLE EAST for 8 months in 2014]

This country is bathed in blood and sin. The only thing us Babylonians should be paying attention to at this point is waiting for the sign to head to the mountains like Jesus told us to watch for. Political maneuvering is only going to piss God off more. Especially when it's coming from false and corrupt churches who are likely at the top of God's $#@!list.

[Elias Graves]

I'm all for it. Marriage originated as a function of the church. Let it go back to its roots. The state really shouldn't have anything to do with a sacrament of the church. You've never needed a state license to be baptized or ordained as a minister. Why should they sanction other church functions?

[donnay]

That is a good move!

[fisharmor]

I'm conflicted... doing the correct thing for the wrong reason.....

[luctor-et-emergo]

I'm conflicted... doing the correct thing for the wrong reason.....

When the constitution was first put into place it was done for a whole different reason than a lot of people these days look at it. It may not officially be a living document but people look at it that way. The same works for this, if they do the right thing, then that's a good thing. If 'we' eventually win the fight, 'we' get to write the history and 'we' get to decide what it means. It's a sign that things are moving 'our' way. Even though the people involved have different intentions it comes down to the fact that 'we' are right on the issues and these people are more or less forced into the right position.

[Elias Graves]

I'm conflicted... doing the correct thing for the wrong reason.....

Sometimes you gotta take a win where you can get it.

[ctiger2]

Smart move. Next move is to eliminate any tax consequences (benefits/detractions) relating to marriage.

[CaptUSA]

I'm conflicted... doing the correct thing for the wrong reason.....

Beats doing the wrong thing for the right reason. You know, the way we do everything else.

[wizardwatson]

Maybe Rand Paul can put forward a bill to put gay porn on Federal Reserve Notes.

If this is how we get things done in 'Murica, well, git 'er done!

[Danke]

This move will be welcomed by siblings across Alabama.

[Danke]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...age&highlight=

[Elias Graves]

This move will be welcomed by siblings across Alabama.

Lol. I'm headed to the church with my prize goat now!

[Sola_Fide]

I'm for that.

[Carlybee]

Fine by me. I really don't care who marries who as long as I don't have to foot the bill.

[otherone]

Lol. I'm headed to the church with my prize goat now!

I'm for that.

File under "unfortunate sequitors"

[Keith and stuff]

One conservative school of thought is that government should get out of the marriage game altogether. We’ll see if this catches on.

It isn't a conservative school of thought. It is slowly catching on, but not doing well. Liberty folks came up with the idea. Republicans in NH were the first legislators to talk about it. Then in OK. Nothing much happened in either state, except for some news coverage and minor debating. Now the idea has spread to AL, though perhaps with not so nice intentions. Still, that's good news. Whenever conservatives think about an issue like this, I'm hopefully that the Republican Party isn't as close-minded as most young people think it is.

[roho76]

I hate that this is how the religious right is getting their way but I support the $#@! out of it. I feel kinda dirty. Ultimately, this is the right solution.

[euphemia]

How on earth will they recoup the tax revenue they lose by doing this? That fee you pay at the registry office? It's a tax.

And will they trust people to file their taxes correctly? It's more expensive if you're married because you both own stuff.

[William Tell]

It isn't a conservative school of thought. It is slowly catching on, but not doing well. Liberty folks came up with the idea. Republicans in NH were the first legislators to talk about it. Then in OK. Nothing much happened in either state, except for some news coverage and minor debating. Now the idea has spread to AL, though perhaps with not so nice intentions. Still, that's good news. Whenever conservatives thing about an issue like this, I'm hopefully that the Republican Party isn't as close-minded as most young people think it is.

It is a conservative school of thought now. Ron Paul was the first one I heard talk about it. Someone I know who is very socially conservative was saying we should get the government out of marriage. I'm not sure if he got that from Ron, but he's the one who popularized the position among conservatives. It might not be the most popular conservative view on marriage, but its definitely a growing one.

[William Tell]

I'm conflicted... doing the correct thing for the wrong reason.....

I hate that this is how the religious right is getting their way but I support the $#@! out of it. I feel kinda dirty. Ultimately, this is the right solution.

Hee hee. Its funny, I've seen a lot of socially liberal libertarians on other sites angry about this. They want the left and center to change their position on marriage, not the conservatives.

[DFF]

Eliminating licensing is good .

I support doing away with licences as well.

[Henry Rogue]

Divorce attorneys will be pissed.

[Henry Rogue]

It isn't a conservative school of thought. It is slowly catching on, but not doing well. Liberty folks came up with the idea. Republicans in NH were the first legislators to talk about it. Then in OK. Nothing much happened in either state, except for some news coverage and minor debating. Now the idea has spread to AL, though perhaps with not so nice intentions. Still, that's good news. Whenever conservatives thing about an issue like this, I'm hopefully that the Republican Party isn't as close-minded as most young people think it is.

The surest way to get people to accept an idea is to get them to think it was their own.

[JohnGalt1225]

I applaud Alabama here.

[Voluntarist]

xxxxx

[mosquitobite]

No need for the government to be involved with permission.

But what about recording it? Unless they tackle the state sanctioned benefits at the same time, this doesn't solve much.

I say make people file their CONTRACT with the state and part of that contract should be the terms in the event of dissolution. Make people talk about these things while they are in LUV and then the divorce racket will really hate it!