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    Eliminating the Notion of God Leads Man to Tyranny, Insanity, and Carnality

    The renowned journalist Malcolm Muggeridge, in his “The Great Liberal Death Wish” article observed the universal pattern of tyranny, delusion, and depravity that follows once man rejects God and embraces godless materialism in all its forms (socialism, communism, progressivism, etc). His insights are as valid today as they were in 1979 when he first published it. Looking around the world around us we see the darkness, corruption, insanity, and chaos that accompany man’s rejection of his Creator. As the Psalmist declared “Unless the Lord builds the house those who build it labor in vain.” (Psalm 127:1)

    “Once you eliminate the notion of a God, a creator, once you eliminate the notion that the creator has a purpose for us, and that life consists essentially in fulfilling that purpose, then you are bound, as Pascal points out, to induce the megalomania of which we’ve seen so many manifestations in our time – in the crazy dictators, as in the lunacies of people who are rich, or who consider themselves to be important or celebrated in the western world. Alternatively, human beings relapse into mere carnality, into being animals. I see this process going on irresistably, of which the holocaust is only just one example.

    If you envisage men as being only men, you are bound to see human society, not in Christian terms as a family, but as a factory–farm in which the only consideration that matters is the well–being of the livestock and the prosperity or productivity of the enterprise. That’s where you land yourself. And it is in that situation that western man is increasingly finding himself.” ~ Malcolm Muggeridge
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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    The renowned journalist Malcolm Muggeridge, in his “The Great Liberal Death Wish” article observed the universal pattern of tyranny, delusion, and depravity that follows once man rejects God and embraces godless materialism in all its forms (socialism, communism, progressivism, etc). His insights are as valid today as they were in 1979 when he first published it. Looking around the world around us we see the darkness, corruption, insanity, and chaos that accompany man’s rejection of his Creator. As the Psalmist declared “Unless the Lord builds the house those who build it labor in vain.” (Psalm 127:1)

    “Once you eliminate the notion of a God, a creator, once you eliminate the notion that the creator has a purpose for us, and that life consists essentially in fulfilling that purpose, then you are bound, as Pascal points out, to induce the megalomania of which we’ve seen so many manifestations in our time – in the crazy dictators, as in the lunacies of people who are rich, or who consider themselves to be important or celebrated in the western world. Alternatively, human beings relapse into mere carnality, into being animals. I see this process going on irresistably, of which the holocaust is only just one example.

    If you envisage men as being only men, you are bound to see human society, not in Christian terms as a family, but as a factory–farm in which the only consideration that matters is the well–being of the livestock and the prosperity or productivity of the enterprise. That’s where you land yourself. And it is in that situation that western man is increasingly finding himself.” ~ Malcolm Muggeridge
    His insights are as valid today as they were in 1979 when he first published it.
    They were valid before that too, but more so now than when they were published in my opinion.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    If you envisage men as being only men, you are bound to see human society, not in Christian terms as a family, but as a factory–farm in which the only consideration that matters is the well–being of the livestock and the prosperity or productivity of the enterprise. That’s where you land yourself. And it is in that situation that western man is increasingly finding himself.” ~ Malcolm Muggeridge
    Hmmm. You mean like making up a philosophy centered around "property rights"?

    It's funny that most people on here don't know how Rothbard devised his "Ethics" of property rights.

    I will break it down for you.

    Rothbards philosophy of Liberty

    I own me.
    If something isn't owned and I claim it first I own that.
    If someone attacks or tries to steal my stuff I can attack, punish, and enslave or imprison them to teach them a lesson and recover lost value.
    By understanding the first two and by doing the third you will achieve Liberty.

    That is the substance of Rothbard's world.
    When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    Hmmm. You mean like making up a philosophy centered around "property rights"?

    It's funny that most people on here don't know how Rothbard devised his "Ethics" of property rights.

    I will break it down for you.

    Rothbards philosophy of Liberty

    I own me.
    If something isn't owned and I claim it first I own that.
    If someone attacks or tries to steal my stuff I can attack, punish, and enslave or imprison them to teach them a lesson and recover lost value.
    By understanding the first two and by doing the third you will achieve Liberty.

    That is the substance of Rothbard's world.
    Mankind as a species is cursed with short-term memory.
    The world apparently was AWESOME prior to the twentieth century.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Mankind as a species is cursed with short-term memory.
    The world apparently was AWESOME prior to the twentieth century.
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    It wasn't awesome, but the killing machine was not as efficient before that. We went from hundreds of thousands to hundreds of millions.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Mankind as a species is cursed with short-term memory.
    The world apparently was AWESOME prior to the twentieth century.
    It's never been awesome. And it's only gotten worse.
    When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
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    It wasn't awesome, but the killing machine was not as efficient before that. We went from hundreds of thousands to hundreds of millions.
    That's the byproduct of the industrial revolution. The modern state was born when the method of slaughter was modernized.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    It's never been awesome. And it's only gotten worse.
    That was my point. "Tyranny, Insanity, and Carnality" existed long before atheism.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus



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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    That's the byproduct of the industrial revolution. The modern state was born when the method of slaughter was modernized.
    Is it also the surge in population? We have so much more people now that if there is a conflict there more people will be killed.



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