Citizens lining up to protect the police on W. North Ave. in Baltimore.
You obviously have a misunderstanding of anarchy.Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0
Yes yes, I know...
teh anarcheez
How did I know that opinion on the events on Baltimore was going to come down along anarchist/minarchist lines?
The latter's hatred of the state blinds them to everything else.
Yes indeed.
There's no reason for libertarians to be defending criminals, nor becoming hysterical over calls for the legitimate suppression thereof.
And it does hurt our movement politically.
How misleading a headline is this?
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That is a very powerful picture.Citizens lining up to protect the police on W. North Ave. in Baltimore.
Indeed.
I don't know what I would do in a situation like that until it happens, I'm not going to tell someone all they had to do is arm up and their business would have been saved. I might tell them it's a possible solution that comes at great risk.
Well, I have to say, I'm glad to see some progress on this thread. I hadn't checked in since early morning hours.
It's nice to see some of the more sensible people on this forum have shamed some of the less sensible people here into backpedaling their blood lust and hatred for the "welfare thugs" a reasonable amount. Remember that shame. You need more of it.
Isn't it grand how most people don't care to look at all that stuff you've posted in the last 48 hours and it will likely be buried and forgotten once a new fad hits the boards?
Forgotten by men anyway.
When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6
Some would rather die on their knees.
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Here's what Rand has to say about it.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...ltimore-morals
And of course, he's being condemned by the leftists for saying so.
Yep, true enough. But who has fostered this? Who awarded this behavior? Think...it's not that cut and dry.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
So Rand says it's because of "moral decline".
Hmmm. Lack of what morals, Rand? How exactly do we become more moral? Seems to me the Rothbardians infesting these boards just want to kill all the immoral people. But Rand is scared to say the real answer. Why?
When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6
The CVS drug store?
It's a moral decline to let yourself become wards of the state and in essence, rag dolls for the police state. What's the old saying? If you can't be responsible for yourself, then likely some government entity will do it for you? Do we see police rampaging in Asian communities?
And there is no riot right now. At this time. So are you ready to talk about, acknowledge and condemn the root causes of the riots? Are you ready to be equally as vehement in demanding that police that break the law and give "nickel rides" receive as harsh a treatment as a you would dole out for a rioter?
And some leftists on here are condemning him for saying so,.. and Condemning Rothbard too just for good measure.
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You don't do a lot thinking outside the box, eh?
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
I do when the situation dictates it.
Condemning rioting and looting doesn't require thinking outside of the box.
Rothbard deserves to be condemned. Who on this board is condemning Rothbard except me!! LOLOLOL. Please show me their post, I would love to have a beer with them.
Does it sting or something?
Property rights this, property rights that. You people are hilarious. You learn everything by social osmosis having no clue what your idols actually think or why they think that way. Rothbard is poison. He extrapolates from a life-boat scenario of self-defense to philosophically conclude that it's "Ethical" to beat the $#@! out of someone to achieve liberty. He's a slick-talking fool who despises pacifism taught by Christ and Tolstoy openly.
Non aggression
self-ownership
property rights
blah, blah, blah, buzz word crap.
I will take it a step further. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS RIGHTS. Your Creator didn't give you any. He gave you commands. Commands he wrote on your conscience. You are obliged to follow them. You can enshrine whatever principles you want in some contract or constitution and "trust" that your fellow man will keep his word, but you still have to follow the rules of your conscience or God is going to compensate you accordingly.
You own nothing. Your body isn't yours, your property isn't yours, your life isn't yours.
God gave you everything. And depending on how you treat what He gave you is what will determine what He gives you next. Pretty simple.
When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6
Even a Pseudo Christian leftist.
The New York Post reported yesterday that Kang Wong, an 84 year old man, was walking against a light in Manhattan’s Upper West Side when police gestured at him to stop. The man, who reportedly doesn’t speak much English, didn’t understand the order. Says one witness:
“The guy didn’t seem to speak English. The cop walked him over to the Citibank” near the northeast corner of 96th and Broadway, said one witness, Ian King, a Fordham University law student.
The cops, at the intersection to ticket jaywalkers just 12 hours after pedestrian Samantha Lee was killed, proceeded to write Wong a ticket. However, Wong still apparently didn’t understand what was going on, and started to walk away from the cop.
“The cop tried to pull him back, and that’s when he began to struggle with the cop,” said King, 24. “As soon as he pushed the cop, it was like cops started running in from everywhere.”
Wong was left bleeding and dazed with cuts to his face.
Wong was taken to the hospital, and later the local police precinct, where his 41-year-old son attempted to find out what Wong was charged with. After several hours, Wong’s son discovered that his father had been arrested for jaywalking, resisting arrest, obstructing governmental administration, and disorderly conduct.
http://reappropriate.co/2014/01/84yo...rriers-blamed/
Here's a great interview with Judge Nap.
Tuesday on “The Alan Colmes Show,” Alan spoke with Senior Judicial Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano about the ongoing situation in Baltimore as well as the drone strike announced last week that left two hostages dead, including one American. Judge Napolitano also recently wrote a powerful column about protecting the rights of citizens and their property during events like the Baltimore riots.
http://radio.foxnews.com/2015/04/28/...for-baltimore/
3 shootings in past 2 hours. 2 head shots and a leg.
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...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
You want to know the secret to how I know that I'm doing a good job?
When self-important self-declared experts and gatekeepers have lots of words for people who don't write so well, or don't have a lot of education in certain areas, but when I speak up all I get is called names.
Do you know the psychological reason why you are doing this? It isn't to scare me. It's to scare the weak people you've latched on to to feed your ego. If they like you, then instinctively they will see you name call me and if they are truly weak they will shy away from me. It's a domination tactic.
You can call me names all day long. The great thing about this medium is it's public. I'm reacting to you publicly. I'm more concerned about changing the lurkers than fixing your noggin'.
You gatekeepers and pharisees and intellectuals and false preachers are just opponents. It's the reader I'm interested in. You guys don't typically read. Your too busy looking at yourself in the mirror.
When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6
Amen. That's where it's going. They are creating mindless consumers who do not dare question authority. Take out a mortgage. Pay your taxes. Cheer for your favorite sports team. Keep an eye on your neighbor. Be a PATRIOTIC American. It's total horse$#@!. At some point, I expect Rod Serling to pop out from behind the curtain and tell me that's it just an elaborate hoax.
And then when you find that some of the most important records society can keep are absent from the record, and subpoena documents to prove it, the sheriff fails to appear on subpoena. And, of course the judge has no problem with that.
Which serves very well to perpetuate the prison/police state, not to mention the secrecy by which treason is conducted.
Call Batman?
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"May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the Establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul
Except you're forgetting the ones who don't want a job.
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