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    Another Medical Kidnapping at Boston Childrens Hospital: Baby Seized Over Formula Disagreement



    Unable to pump enough breast milk for her prematurely born baby, the search began for an appropriate formula to feed baby Bella. Finding one that worked, they took their baby home in Alabama.

    A trip back to Massachusetts, their former resident state, to gather belongings and visit family members resulted in difficulties in finding the same formula they had used in Alabama. They found one that the baby tolerated, but a visit to the local WIC office in Massachusetts put them at odds with a pediatrician who insisted on changing her formula, one that baby Bella did not do well with as her weight allegedly began to decline.

    The parents decided to go back to Alabama immediately, to be with a pediatrician who was using the right formula. But Massachusetts DCF followed their case to Alabama, contacting Alabama DHR. Alabama DHR investigated the family, and cleared them after seeing how well the baby was doing.

    But this was not good enough for Massachusetts DCF, which allegedly threatened the family with criminal charges if they did not return to Massachusetts. The frightened family complied, and their baby girl was put into Boston Children's Hospital, where they soon lost custody. Now, Massachusetts DCF is planning to adopt out baby Bella.

    Full Story here.
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    but a visit to the local WIC office
    Take the state's carrot, you will get beat with the state's stick.

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    That case worker and doctor need a dose of some natural law.

    Then we'll see who's drinking formula from a bottle.

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    Anybody got the time?

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    i don't understand how people put up with this nonsense.

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    Why the hell would they go back into their jurisdiction?
    Step one: Dont go back to Massachusetts.
    Step Two: Get a Lawyer
    Step Three: Tell the massholes to pound sand.

    Especially after their own state cleared them. They literally had zero authority or jurisdiction at that point. It was as empty of a threat as it could possibly be...until they handed their kid over to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrapmo View Post
    Why the hell would they go back into their jurisdiction?
    Step one: Dont go back to Massachusetts.
    Step Two: Get a Lawyer
    Step Three: Tell the massholes to pound sand.

    Especially after their own state cleared them. They literally had zero authority or jurisdiction at that point. It was as empty of a threat as it could possibly be...until they handed their kid over to them.
    I was going to write much the same. These fools more or less volunteered to have their child taken away.

    I pity them, of course. Maybe they had a poor education and don't understand the basics of our legal system. But still, it makes me angry to read that they went back, knowing what fate awaited them there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Anybody got the time?
    Long long past.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post


    Unable to pump enough breast milk for her prematurely born baby, the search began for an appropriate formula to feed baby Bella. Finding one that worked, they took their baby home in Alabama.

    A trip back to Massachusetts, their former resident state, to gather belongings and visit family members resulted in difficulties in finding the same formula they had used in Alabama. They found one that the baby tolerated, but a visit to the local WIC office in Massachusetts put them at odds with a pediatrician who insisted on changing her formula, one that baby Bella did not do well with as her weight allegedly began to decline.

    The parents decided to go back to Alabama immediately, to be with a pediatrician who was using the right formula. But Massachusetts DCF followed their case to Alabama, contacting Alabama DHR. Alabama DHR investigated the family, and cleared them after seeing how well the baby was doing.

    But this was not good enough for Massachusetts DCF, which allegedly threatened the family with criminal charges if they did not return to Massachusetts. The frightened family complied, and their baby girl was put into Boston Children's Hospital, where they soon lost custody. Now, Massachusetts DCF is planning to adopt out baby Bella.

    Full Story here.
    What a beautiful baby girl. Lord, deliver her back to her loving parents. You gave that precious girl to them. Let her know the love of her parents, and bring comfort to her family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrapmo View Post
    Why the hell would they go back into their jurisdiction?
    Step one: Dont go back to Massachusetts.
    Step Two: Get a Lawyer
    Step Three: Tell the massholes to pound sand.

    Especially after their own state cleared them. They literally had zero authority or jurisdiction at that point. It was as empty of a threat as it could possibly be...until they handed their kid over to them.
    Because they are typical of the kinds of families CPS preys upon: too poor to afford an attorney and get good legal advice. They are stuck with public defenders who actually encourage them to work with the State. By the time they come to us to go public with their story, it is too late, and they have learned the hard way how naive they were.

    This ignorance is part of the public educational system, which instills into people to cooperate, and people believe if they are innocent they "have nothing to hide."

    This family needed expensive formula they could not afford, and their trip to the local WIC is what started the whole downward process....

    EDIT: I will say this though after covering these State-sponsored kidnappings for about 6 months now - there is a whole army out there of formerly ignorant-now-turned-expert parents who have been abused by the system, and they are a force to reckoned with. They are ignorant no more, and there are a few groups/attorneys starting to step forward and help, like Shawn McMillan in California.
    Last edited by Created4; 04-26-2015 at 06:13 AM.
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
    (1 John 4:18)

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    If the government threatens you if you don't do something, take that as a signal to not do that something (and potentially get a Lawyer, if needed).

    I feel bad for them regarding this injustice though.



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