'Straight Pride' Posters Appear On Ohio's Youngstown State University Campus

[dannno]

I think Acala's point, which is a good one, is that the things you are complaining about that they are doing is a reaction to how society treated them in the past. People who didn't like homosexual activity put them in prison and murdered them. If that had never happened, gay people probably wouldn't be acting out quite so much - they wouldn't have an arguably legitimate reason to try and get so much attention.

So Acala's point was, that even though it is debatable whether they should still be using their past persecution to gain attention in the present, it is still essentially the fault of those who imprisoned and killed gay people in the past for why are able to go after so much attention now.

So don't blame gay people as much as the anti-gay people who have and may continue to want to persecute them in the future. They don't have to be the people who made this poster for that to be a legitimate argument.

[otherone]

Not "the same" but both are completely perverse and unnatural. The idea that one can be "persecuted" for either is a completely modern and utterly absurd idea.

[mad cow]

When individuals belong to dominant societal cohorts (Caucasian, male, heterosexual, etc.)

What do they think the 'D' in BDSM stands for?

I'm being discriminated against!

[phill4paul]

What do they think the 'D' in BDSM stands for?

I'm being discriminated against!

Dominants unite! Next thing you know the Submisives are gonna want equality. And that is un-natural.

[LibertyEagle]

I think Acala's point, which is a good one, is that the things you are complaining about that they are doing is a reaction to how society treated them in the past. People who didn't like homosexual activity put them in prison and murdered them. If that had never happened, gay people probably wouldn't be acting out quite so much - they wouldn't have an arguably legitimate reason to try and get so much attention.

So Acala's point was, that even though it is debatable whether they should still be using their past persecution to gain attention in the present, it is still essentially the fault of those who imprisoned and killed gay people in the past for why are able to go after so much attention now.

So don't blame gay people as much as the anti-gay people who have and may continue to want to persecute them in the future. They don't have to be the people who made this poster for that to be a legitimate argument.

Bull$#@!. Many want special rights.

[Danke]

How many gay people did Jesus kill?

5,

[milgram]

Not more than two days ago a collegue of mine was in my office bitching about how the medical mj people are constantly trumpeting how wonderful mj is and that they should just shut up about it. I made the idential point then that I have made about gay pride: if you hadn't spent a hundred years ruining people's lives over smoking a few flowers they wouldn't have to have a political and social movement. I even drew the analogy in the opposite direction to the gay movement. Same thing, in my opinion. When you try and police lifestyle choices, don't bitch when the people you have been messing with get organized and fight back.

I confess I haven't been around MMJ folk very much. But I haven't noticed them organizing public parades and awareness weeks nearly as frequently as the sexual identity groups.

Anyway, for something a little more light-hearted ...

[wizardwatson]

How many gay people did Jesus kill?

Jesus didn't kill anyone....yet.

But he will. And just based on raw statistics they'll likely be some gay people in the mix.

The world hasn't seen the Lion of Judah yet.

[phill4paul]

Jesus didn't kill anyone....yet.

But he will. And just based on raw statistics they'll likely be some gay people in the mix.

The world hasn't seen the Lion of Judah yet.

All Heaven's gonna break loose.

[dannno]

Bull$#@!. Many want special rights.

That wasn't my argument - my argument was that if gay people hadn't been persecuted, that they wouldn't have any legitimate reason, perceived or otherwise, to be asking for equal rights or any special type of rights because they were already being treated equally.

[heavenlyboy34]

That wasn't my argument - my argument was that if gay people hadn't been persecuted, that they wouldn't have any legitimate reason, perceived or otherwise, to be asking for equal rights or any special type of rights because they were already being treated equally.

Not necessarily. People demand special rights of all sorts regularly for hosts of silly reasons. Off the top of my head-a "right to privacy". SMDH.

[dannno]

Not necessarily. People demand special rights of all sorts regularly for hosts of silly reasons. Off the top of my head-a "right to privacy". SMDH.

I don't think that is a comparative analogy. Is there a group who has never been persecuted to any extent that goes around telling everybody about how they need to be treated equally or whatever when they always have been and society pays attention to them?

As far as right to privacy, that depends - if I have a letter in a safe on my property, I have a right to keep that letter private. You don't have a right to come look at my letter, neither does the government. I have the right to protect my property.

If I print the private letter out in 96 point font and post it up on the door of City Hall, I don't have the right to claim that the letter be private.

[Christian Liberty]

I think Acala's point, which is a good one, is that the things you are complaining about that they are doing is a reaction to how society treated them in the past. People who didn't like homosexual activity put them in prison and murdered them. If that had never happened, gay people probably wouldn't be acting out quite so much - they wouldn't have an arguably legitimate reason to try and get so much attention.

So Acala's point was, that even though it is debatable whether they should still be using their past persecution to gain attention in the present, it is still essentially the fault of those who imprisoned and killed gay people in the past for why are able to go after so much attention now.

So don't blame gay people as much as the anti-gay people who have and may continue to want to persecute them in the future. They don't have to be the people who made this poster for that to be a legitimate argument.

Or really what you mean is that its God's fault.

How many gay people did Jesus kill?

How many years did Jesus spend as a civil magistrate?

The difference is that when it's rape, there's at least 1 non-consenting party. When it's consensual anything, by definition, all of the parties are consenting.

that all parties involved consent is the only thing that really matters.

I used to agree with this, but then I realized that open perversion degrades society far more than libertarians think it does.

[69360]

I think the poster is funny.

Gays using government to force acceptance are just as bad as the christians using government to force hatred.

[Slave Mentality]

Jesus didn't kill anyone....yet.

But he will. And just based on raw statistics they'll likely be some gay people in the mix.

The world hasn't seen the Lion of Judah yet.

A loving and forgiving God indeed!

[idiom]

I used to agree with this, but then I realized that open perversion degrades society far more than libertarians think it does.

You mean like men shaving their faces?

[idiom]

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[idiom]

Are you all so out of touch that no one here has a friend that has been beaten in public for nothing other than being suspected of being gay?

[otherone]

Are you all so out of touch that no one here has a friend that has been beaten in public for nothing other than being suspected of being gay?

This place is a GD echo chamber.
98% of the country is being sodomized by the government, yet RPF is more concerned about the 2% who choose to sodomize each other.

[mad cow]

Are you all so out of touch that no one here has a friend that has been beaten in public for nothing other than being suspected of being gay?

Absolutely not,nor have I ever heard about any such thing amongst everybody I know.
New Zealand sounds like a rough neighborhood.

[Patrick Henry]

I want the word "gay" back.

This.

I never use this word to define homosexual. I am tired of the english language being bastardized.

[specsaregood]

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[PRB]

"Pride" is for people who are insecure and seek validation, people who cry bully and want the world to sympathize with their victimhood.

[heavenlyboy34]

I don't think that is a comparative analogy. Is there a group who has never been persecuted to any extent that goes around telling everybody about how they need to be treated equally or whatever when they always have been and society pays attention to them?

As far as right to privacy, that depends - if I have a letter in a safe on my property, I have a right to keep that letter private. You don't have a right to come look at my letter, neither does the government. I have the right to protect my property.

If I print the private letter out in 96 point font and post it up on the door of City Hall, I don't have the right to claim that the letter be private.

You're thinking of persons and property. That is a legit right and has existed at least since the beginning of classical liberal thought. "Privacy" in the broadest sense can't be a right by its nature. No court or philosopher has been able to justify such a right rationally (that is, with sound reasoning absent of flawed and/or fallacious reasoning).

[heavenlyboy34]

This.

I never use this word to define homosexual. I am tired of the english language being bastardized.

Meh. Semantic shift is a reality and inevitability of human language. (except perhaps synthetic languages like Esperanto) We just have to deal with it, painful as it may be. Other sadly hijacked/shifted words include "liberal", "anarchy", and "***".

(ETA: Why is RPFs censoring "f@g"? )

[Christian Liberty]

Are you all so out of touch that no one here has a friend that has been beaten in public for nothing other than being suspected of being gay?

That's clearly wrong. Nobody's disputing that. Of course, in today's society the "gay" part gets emphasized and the whole "on mere suspicion" thing gets ignored.

[LibertyEagle]

This place is a GD echo chamber.
98% of the country is being sodomized by the government, yet RPF is more concerned about the 2% who choose to sodomize each other.

Way to twist what has been said.

[TheCount]

That's clearly wrong. Nobody's disputing that. Of course, in today's society the "gay" part gets emphasized and the whole "on mere suspicion" thing gets ignored.

Yes, they should wait until they have concrete evidence before needlessly beating the $#@! out of someone.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

This place is a GD echo chamber.
98% of the country is being sodomized by the government, yet RPF is more concerned about the 2% who choose to sodomize each other.

The culture war is every bit as important - if not more so.

[otherone]

Way to twist what has been said.

Thanks. Care to untwist what I wrote? What is being said? Is this the marquis issue in 2015? Or yet ANOTHER distraction?