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    Sometimes...Alex Jones propagandizes too.

    So, I don't usually have any issue with Alex Jones and what he brings to light. Most often I think he brings important discussion to topics that are ignored in the MSM. But sometimes he pushes a false storyline. This is one of them.

    I've seen countless storylines about connecting this video to Federal military presence in the domestic US.


    The kids in this video are part of Virginia's Recruit program. They haven't even been to basic training yet and only have hopes to be in the Virginia National Guard.

    They aren't part of Jade Helm, or a Civil Response Team training to put American's into internment camps. The 116th BCT is located on the grounds of Gypsy Hill park. That is all.

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    You know, I guess what makes me so disgusted is that with all the disinformation out there and not being able to trust much of what we know, you hope someone who is on our side will make every effort to try to get the narrative correct when he's catering to a constituency that is craving the truth.
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    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

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    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    You know, I guess what makes me so disgusted is that with all the disinformation out there and not being able to trust much of what we know, you hope someone who is on our side will make every effort to try to get the narrative correct when he's catering to a constituency that is craving the truth.
    Meh, one of the things that really fired up the first American Revolution in 1777 were propagandised accounts of brutality by royal contracted Hessian mercenaries.

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    Media is definitely more competitive with advanced telecommunications (e.g., internet). That means less due diligence will result in more errors. This is why I'd rather read primary source documents. If people had only read the Michael Brown autopsy and Darren Wilson's testimony, then they would have easily seen that Wilson was a liar. Instead, people chose to believe "blogs," amateur & inaccurate Youtube transcriptions, and the lying woman on the national radio talk show.

    Jones gets criticism, but his faults are no worse than anybody else. His showmanship and acting is no worse than when Dan Rather tried to win an Oscar night-after-night by being a drama queen actor. Local news is filled with bimbo girl, dramatic newscasters who could not get an acting career.

    I've also noticed so-called mainstream news being more inaccurate than ever.
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    If Alex is guilty of anything, it's sometimes rushing out stories without complete corroboration.

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    Meh, whatever, it's not like we didn't already have Waco 23+ years ago.

    So ultimately the message he is communicating is accurate, even if the content isn't entirely accurate. And we dunno if this was a mistake or what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Media is definitely more competitive with advanced telecommunications (e.g., internet). That means less due diligence will result in more errors. This is why I'd rather read primary source documents. If people had only read the Michael Brown autopsy and Darren Wilson's testimony, then they would have easily seen that Wilson was a liar.
    Why should they trust the source when we have conspiracy theorists that'll decipher it from them?

    Instead, people chose to believe "blogs," amateur & inaccurate Youtube transcriptions, and the lying woman on the national radio talk show.
    Of course, people like to believe what they like to believe.


    Jones gets criticism, but his faults are no worse than anybody else.
    Slightly worse if he claims to know more truth or fact check more.

    His showmanship and acting is no worse than when Dan Rather tried to win an Oscar night-after-night by being a drama queen actor.
    Again, if he claims to be better or not an actor, he doesn't get the luxury of being "just as bad" as the people he criticizes.

    Local news is filled with bimbo girl, dramatic newscasters who could not get an acting career.

    I've also noticed so-called mainstream news being more inaccurate than ever.
    Which brings up an interesting question, what if Alex Jones becomes mainstream? Will news be more accurate? or will he become more mainstream/inaccurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    If Alex is guilty of anything, it's sometimes rushing out stories without complete corroboration.
    Yeah, something we know MSM always does



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    That is why everybody should be investigative. Its not hard to pass misinformation. Alex Jones is an American Hero.

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    Sometimes AJ is right, sometimes he's bat$#@! crazy. You have to be intelligent enough to know which.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    ...conspiracy theorists...

    There is no such thing as a "conspiracy theorist." The two nouns don't even go together. It's like saying "magazine theorist" or "tree theorist."

    And nobody cares what you think anyway. Your fake libertarian shenanigans were exposed long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Meh, whatever, it's not like we didn't already have Waco 23+ years ago.

    So ultimately the message he is communicating is accurate, even if the content isn't entirely accurate. And we dunno if this was a mistake or what.
    That's like the defenders of the UVA rape story. "It isn't true, but the point is still valid."

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    There is no such thing as a "conspiracy theorist." The two nouns don't even go together. It's like saying "magazine theorist" or "tree theorist."

    And nobody cares what you think anyway. Your fake libertarian shenanigans were exposed long ago.
    It should be conspiracy investigator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    Slightly worse if he claims to know more truth or fact check more.
    He does. Alex Jones has a head full of facts and figures, that your average MSM puppet stammers for seconds to hours to come up with. MSM reporters are idiots.

    BTW, Alex Jones is in full propaganda mode all the time.

    truly stupid, ignorant people are all around us. they are dangerous, and uninformed. They must be guided, they will never be awakened. If AJ does not guide them, somebody else will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    He does. Alex Jones has a head full of facts and figures, that your average MSM puppet stammers for seconds to hours to come up with. MSM reporters are idiots.

    BTW, Alex Jones is in full propaganda mode all the time.

    truly stupid, ignorant people are all around us. they are dangerous, and uninformed. They must be guided, they will never be awakened. If AJ does not guide them, somebody else will.
    did you just say "better a good guy to lie and scare them than a bad guy to"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    Why should they trust the source when we have conspiracy theorists that'll decipher it from them?
    So you are stating we should not trust the source, but trust the messenger who had disseminated the source to them?
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    Welcome to the world of propaganda, y'all. Welcome to reality. The world is Machiavellian. And "lies" is not the right word, perhaps, one could perceive what he says as "exaggerated". however, I think AJ looks for the story of the individual, whom the US government, or communist governments, or fascist governments, has slighted, or murdered, and says, "to these people, they have experienced the greatest of tragedies, the loss of their own lives and futures, to violence", to them, what the rest of the world perceives as a slight injustice, they feel as it was the GREATEST injustice. So is it exaggeration? I think not.

    Propaganda does not necessarily require lies. Look it up. It is, as he calls, an "information war".
    One which Hillary Clinton has said the U.S. is losing. Now the US is looking for Russian speakers, but can't find many for their own attempt at a counter propaganda campaign.

    So, no, I didn't say, quote, "
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB
    "did you just say "better a good guy to lie and scare them than a bad guy to"?
    , endquote... ....That was you, remember?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    It should be conspiracy investigator.
    Or conspiracy foiler....


























































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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    So you are stating we should not trust the source, but trust the messenger who had disseminated the source to them?
    Sometimes, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    That's like the defenders of the UVA rape story. "It isn't true, but the point is still valid."
    No, a better analogy would be that she was lying or mistaken about the guy raping her, but that he had legitimately raped many women before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    No, a better analogy would be that she was lying or mistaken about the guy raping her, but that he had legitimately raped many women before.
    Unfortunately I have to agree with Taft here. This is how the MSM pushes every piece of $#@! they have for the past 15 years. Terrorist attack here........point to terrorists events on a massive scale everywhere even if it's not true. And Boobus eats it up and this is why we have arrived at this point in time.

    And then there are the Boobus in our midst who see some National Guard Recruit kids doing PT and drill and ceremonies in a park and call it a training "exercise" on the level of a Brigade training event for Marshal Law and FEMA camp detention centers protocol.
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    On bringing the troops home
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    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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    ..alex jones is a miserable discredit to 'the libertarian movement'..but he is a hoot at times...he's really just ruse limbaugh 3.0...glenn stinking beck being ruse limbaugh 2.0...

    ...largely, a loud LOUD shill for the stinking activist wing of the stinking republican party...in fact, i dare say many of the people here who stroke the loud phony jones do so only because he 'stands with rand'..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Sometimes AJ is right, sometimes he's bat$#@! crazy. You have to be intelligent enough to know which.
    +1

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    ...he may be partially correct about a few things...but his support of ted cruz and rand is certifiably bat$#@!...
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    ...listen to alex squeal like a republican pig on baltimore...no false flag, agent provocateurs, etc., in baltimore...just a bunch of stupid lazy black democrats!..

    ...hoover ought to name a vacuum cleaner model after jones...jones, the republican shill sucks even harder than the glenn beck model!..

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    Quote Originally Posted by H. E. Panqui View Post
    ...listen to alex squeal like a republican pig on baltimore...no false flag, agent provocateurs, etc., in baltimore...just a bunch of stupid lazy black democrats!..

    ...hoover ought to name a vacuum cleaner model after jones...jones, the republican shill sucks even harder than the glenn beck model!..
    Decades of squalor and social engineering doesn't end well. You don't have to be a 'republican pig' to understand how the story ends. Is anyone really under the illusion that this artificial plantation will have a storybook ending?
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    Sometimes? Still waiting to be hauled into a FEMA camp, Alex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Sometimes? Still waiting to be hauled into a FEMA camp, Alex.
    I'm not. But awareness is key. Just because that hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it won't ever happen. I believe they will use FEMA camp prisons on illegals aliens so that they can get major support from the citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Sometimes? Still waiting to be hauled into a FEMA camp, Alex.
    Gotta sell those survivialist supplies who sponsor the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    Gotta sell those survivialist supplies who sponsor the show.

    You should create a caucus called "libertarians against entrepreneurs"

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