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    The Circular Force Continuum.

    From an article printed in the SLC Tribune.

    ‘Officers may use any force available’

    The Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST) division of the Utah Department of Safety oversees, directly or indirectly, the basic training of all police recruits in Utah. At its four-month academy, cadets are introduced to the use-of-force continuum, a diagram showing officer force options — simply showing up at the scene; verbal commands, touching or holding a subject, pepper spray, police dogs, baton, Taser, or deadly force — arrayed in a circle for the officer’s selection.

    "Officers may use any force available provided they can justify the reasonableness of force used," the manual states.

    http://www.sltrib.com/news/1842489-1...outpacing-gang
    The CFC maintains that a cop can use whatever force he deems reasonable to ensure his safety, including deadly force.

    What that means in the real world is a cop can blow you away for twitching funny, making "furtive movements" or "menacing staring".

    And the "reasonableness" of his action will be determined by...fellow cops.

    This is the driving force behind so many of these police killings we are seeing now.

    Years ago, the force continuum was "vertical", meaning that a cop could only one level of force above what was being against him.

    The CFC has been adopted by many police forces across the country, and the pressure to do so comes from two directions:

    One is the feds, who have been pushing this, post 9/11 through the training guidelines passed down through the local "fusion centers"

    The second is the lawyers for both police and the towns that employ them. It is cheaper to blow you away than risk having to pay multiple injury and insurance claims and lawsuits if a cop gets hurt taking you down physically.

    Put very simply: it costs more to pay for a cop's broken back than your corpse.

    This, more than anything else, is why you need to avoid cops at all costs.

    Never call a cop for "help" - that is not their job. Their job is to $#@! people up and put them in jail.



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    I've been hearing about this for awhile.

    Is there anything behind the change from the vertical force continuum to the circular force continuum that results from legislation?

    Not that I expect what's actually written in the law to be decisive in practice when the defendant is a police officer, but how does this circular continuum stand up to legal scrutiny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post

    Is there anything behind the change from the vertical force continuum to the circular force continuum that results from legislation?

    Fusion Centers, where this tactic is taught are part of 9/11 Commission Act of 2007

    also

    Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386 sets the "reasonable" standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    I've been hearing about this for awhile.

    Is there anything behind the change from the vertical force continuum to the circular force continuum that results from legislation?

    Not that I expect what's actually written in the law to be decisive in practice when the defendant is a police officer, but how does this circular continuum stand up to legal scrutiny?
    "Qualified immunity" is the legal cover.

    The CFC is no more "law" than 90 percent of everything else on the books that currently enslave us.

    It is merely "policy".

    But under the legal penumbra of qualified immunity, it becomes policy protected by legal precedent.

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    And what presence wrote.

    Thanks. +rep

    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Fusion Centers, where this tactic is taught are part of 9/11 Commission Act of 2007

    also

    Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386 sets the "reasonable" standard.
    ETA - Outta ammo.

    Someone, please +rep presence for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And what presence wrote.

    Thanks. +rep



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    What ever happen to Elliptical Force Continuum?
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    The CFC maintains that a cop can use whatever force he deems reasonable to ensure his safety, including deadly force.

    What that means in the real world is a cop can blow you away for twitching funny, making "furtive movements" or "menacing staring".

    And the "reasonableness" of his action will be determined by...fellow cops.

    The only addition/correction/change I would offer is: "What that means is in the real world a cop can blow you away after claiming you made "furtive movements" etc... and that's only changing today because the world is finally so saturated with cameras, both public and private, that it has exposed the lies the cops have been telling about these incidents for years and years now.

    A picture is worth a thousand words, and a video is worth a cop's conviction.

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    "Officers may use any force available










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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What ever happen to Elliptical Force Continuum?
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    Bump for Brett85

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What ever happen to Elliptical Force Continuum?
    I would propose Spherical Force Continuum

    Which allows shooting in any direction at any time

    As long as it can be justified ofc
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    It's quite obvious to any observer that something has changed from the "old days" and it seems like you have found the issue. It's obvious that it's in their training but now we have the specific policy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    It's quite obvious to any observer that something has changed from the "old days" and it seems like you have found the issue. It's obvious that it's in their training but now we have the specific policy...
    Goons gonna goon, we all agree on that.

    But clearly, under the CFC, they have been given even greater legal carte blanche to goon harder and goon more, than what they have in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Goons gonna goon, we all agree on that.

    But clearly, under the CFC, they have been given even greater legal carte blanche to goon harder and goon more, than what they have in the past.
    luv ya man...
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