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Thread: why is Rubio so confident he is giving up his senate seat?

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    why is Rubio so confident he is giving up his senate seat?

    seems very early for that kind of decision



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    If he seeks the presidency, the Florida Republican said, “I won’t be able to run for reelect.”
    “If I decide that I want to be president of the United States then that’s what I’m going to run for,” he said at a Washington breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor. “I think if you want to be president, that’s what you want to be and that’s what you run for, what you focus on.”

    Florida law prohibits a candidate from appearing on the same ballot for two different offices.
    I don't see him having much of a chance though, maybe he's tired of being a Senator?
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    Maybe Jeb as offered him VP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I don't see him having much of a chance though, maybe he's tired of being a Senator?
    In terms of "would consider voting for" numbers he actually has the best chance out of all R candidates right now...

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    Rubio has no chance at all, not at the nomination and certainly not against Hillary. He's not serious about winning in 2016 either.
    If he doesn't get on the 2016 ticket as VP, he will run for governor in a few years time to set himself up for a serious attempt at the nomination in either 2020 or 2024.

    Edit:
    Atwater has decided not to run for senate, interestingly. So if Rubio drops out in time, he could still run for reelection.
    Last edited by adelina; 04-12-2015 at 04:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rp08orbust View Post
    Maybe Jeb as offered him VP.
    can't, same state

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    They want to use this as a negative against Rand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    They want to use this as a negative against Rand.
    Doesn't bother me if it means Rubio no longer has a vote in the Senate. He is dangerous. Permanent Patriot Act and warrantless spying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    They want to use this as a negative against Rand.
    Thats what this was - this was a shot at Rand. He would be a fool to run. Better that he should posture himself for a VP spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adelina View Post
    Rubio has no chance at all, not at the nomination and certainly not against Hillary. He's not serious about winning in 2016 either.
    But... Billy Kristol loves him! How can he possibly lose?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelina View Post
    Edit:
    Atwater has decided not to run for senate, interestingly. So if Rubio drops out in time, he could still run for reelection.
    That's what Rubio is planning. Run until it's clear he's not winning, but get his name out on the national scene. Get reelected to the Senate, then do the full out run in 2020 or 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelina View Post

    Edit:
    Atwater has decided not to run for senate, interestingly. So if Rubio drops out in time, he could still run for reelection.
    That's what he's counting on. Make a splash with this run, build his national presence, then make the real run in 2020 0r 2024.
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    I think Rubio's chances for the Republican nominations (that is, either president or vice president) are very good, but he's just being realistic. The Republicans will have to campaign for Florida from the get-go with an on-the-ground candidate, no matter who their candidate for Senate is. Besides, it's pretty silly, in my opinion, to run for both the presidency and a Senate seat at the same time.

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    Because the Fox show guaranteed to Establishment "Tea Party" candidates pays better than the Senate does, and even rivals what senators get in their campaign funds.

    Worked for Huckabee.
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    He's got a great chance at the nomination and a great chance at being VP.

    If those two fail, he can run for governor in 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    He's got a great chance at the nomination and a great chance at being VP.

    If those two fail, he can run for governor in 2018.
    And, if he loses the first, he won't be picked for VP if he's the GOP's official nominee to hang onto Florida.



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    He's not going to win; he's part of the republicrat "party"; apparently on of his assigned task is to troll Rand for seeking Senate and Presidency.

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    Maybe he believes that his slogan, "A New American Century" will go a long way towards creating some kind of aura of inevitability around his campaign, while at the same time counting on all of US to lose our cool and run around screaming about PNAC.

    I wouldn't take the bait on this.* If he wants to create division, make his campaign punch up - no need for us to punch down.

    As a way to get out in front of some of this engineered division, perhaps the Paul campaign could make a public overture to other candidates to do some mutual campaign stops together to focus on issues they 'agree' on - debt, national security, education, taxes, Audit the Fed, etc.
    Last edited by CableNewsJunkie; 04-14-2015 at 07:46 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Because he doesn't want to stay in the Senate. He's running for governor

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    why is Rubio so confident he is giving up his senate seat?
    Because if his campaign doesn't do well before the filing deadline, he'll just change his mind. He knows that the voting public has a very short attention span and is easily distracted by shiny objects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rp08orbust View Post
    Maybe Jeb as offered him VP.
    Good theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    He's not going to win; he's part of the republicrat "party"; apparently on of his assigned task is to troll Rand for seeking Senate and Presidency.
    Also very good theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    can't, same state
    It's true that if Rubio remained an "inhabitant" of Florida when the electoral college meets, each elector from Florida (and only those from Florida) would be unable to vote for both Jeb as president and Rubio as VP. Assuming Jeb has won Florida, the best the Republican electors could do is cast their votes for anyone other than the Democratic VP nominee, effectively removing Florida from the VP contest. It would then be quite possible for Jeb to end up with a Democratic VP. However...

    1. After Jeb secures the nomination, there would be plenty of time for Rubio to pull a Dick Cheney and move out of Florida before the electoral college meets.

    2. If (1) doesn't work for some reason, then depending on who Hillary has chosen as VP, or maybe regardless of who Hillary has chosen, Jeb just might not give a f--k about who his VP is.
    Last edited by rp08orbust; 04-12-2015 at 05:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rp08orbust View Post
    It's true that if Rubio remained an "inhabitant" of Florida when the electoral college meets, each elector from Florida (and only those from Florida) would be unable to vote for both Jeb as president and Rubio as VP. Assuming Jeb has won Florida, the best the Republican electors could do is cast their votes for anyone other than the Democratic VP nominee, effectively removing Florida from the VP contest.
    Actually, it's not as bad as that. Let's say that Jeb only needs 12 out of 29 electoral votes from Florida to win the presidency. All the electors have to do is agree that 12 will vote for Rubio as VP (and anyone other than Jeb and Hillary for president) and 17 will vote for Jeb as president (and anyone other than Rubio and Hillary's running mate for VP) and both Jeb and Rubio win.



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    I guess I wasn't aware that Rubio was all that popular. Sometimes, especially in these early days, politicians might just say something really stupid to get themselves booed off. Think Rick Perry and how fast his chances died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    They want to use this as a negative against Rand.
    ^^^This.

    Everything that happens this election cycle is about the establishment versus the anti-establishment. It has nothing to do with D vs. R. They already won that game.

    They will use every tool at their disposal to prevent Rand from succeeding. And doesn't Rubio make a fine tool?
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    It seems pretty dumb for him to quit his senate seat, knowing that Rand is gonna get the nomination
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    He's got a great chance at the nomination and a great chance at being VP.

    If those two fail, he can run for governor in 2018.
    Yeah, he's a favorite with Hannity and Red State, isn't he? The Cruz thing is just a distraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    I guess I wasn't aware that Rubio was all that popular.
    He is probably the most favored establishment candidate after Jeb.
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    This thread makes my mouth dry.
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