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    Question Do You Want to be a National Convention Delegate?

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    April 2, 2015 | By Morton Blackwell

    In early 1961, I decided to try to be a Goldwater delegate to the 1964 Republican National Convention. When Barry Goldwater beat the party establishment and won the G.O.P. Presidential nomination, I was his youngest elected delegate at San Francisco's Cow Palace. And I've been deeply involved in politics ever since.

    In 1975, I wrote an article for the Young Americans for Freedom magazine New Guard entitled, "So You Want To Go To A Convention?"

    Oklahoman Steve Antosh read the article and followed my advice. The next year, at age 19, Steve was elected a Reagan delegate to the 1976 G.O.P. national convention. Four years later, in 1980, Steve was the National Director of Youth for Reagan.
    For you, as for Steve Antosh and for me, conservative activism could be the route to the Big Convention and, perhaps, a career in the public-policy process.

    Hard Work Pays Off For Conservatives
    If you're a liberal Democrat, and you're a black lesbian militant with a Spanish surname, the Democrats' convention rules are written with quotas for you. If you are a conservative -- Democrat or Republican -- chances are you'll have to work hard to win a seat on your state's national convention delegation.

    Each state has its own rules for national convention delegate selection. States may and often do change their state laws and party rules between national conventions.

    Under their national rules and U. S. Supreme Court decisions, state Democratic parties may adopt rules for national convention delegate selection which are inconsistent with state laws. The national Rules of the Republican Party now also provide that state Republican Party rules for national delegate selection prevail over state law on this subject.

    Most delegates are elected in states with primaries, but primary and convention rules vary greatly from state to state. Learning your state's applicable laws and party rules is a key, first step toward becoming a delegate.

    If your state is one of those which have no presidential primary, you may have to mount a major operation to attract people to a caucus or win support from local delegates to a district or state convention.

    If you already know how to draw a crowd, work a convention, use parliamentary procedure, form alliances, and count votes, you have a head start on the road to the Big Convention.

    If your state elects delegates in a presidential primary, your problems will be somewhat different. A primary can involve precinct organization, TV, radio, social media, and press advertising, a great deal of money, and many more people than a convention. But while it helps to be an expert at convention politics and primary election politics, your personal reputation and your candidate preference are likely to prove much more important.

    Some states have "winner take all" presidential primaries.

    Other states use proportional representation. Under this system, presidential candidates who get a sizable minority of the primary votes may get some of the state's delegate votes.

    Rules for delegate apportionment for candidates in proportional primary states vary widely.

    In some primary states, delegates are elected by the party separately from the presidential primary. In these states, delegates are bound by the primary to vote at the national convention for the presidential candidate who wins the state's primary, for one or more ballots or until "released" by the candidate for whom they were obliged to vote.

    Neither state conventions nor primaries require the delegates to vote a certain way on other issues which may come before the national convention, such as credentials contests, the party platform, or proposed changes in the party's national rules.

    You can see how important it is to work hard to familiarize yourself with the rules which govern the delegate selection process in your state.

    In every state, whether delegates are selected by primaries or by conventions, the system is wide open at the bottom. Anyone can be a member of any party and participate in its delegate-selection process. You win if you get the most people to turn out for a primary, a caucus, or a convention.

    Building Your Base
    I began in early 1961 to consider the available routes in Louisiana to become a delegate to the 1964 G.O.P. nominating convention.

    There seemed to be only two sorts of people elected delegates to national conventions: those who had worked long and hard for the party over many years and those who had contributed substantial sums of money to the party and its candidates.

    Neither avenue was open to me. I had neither the time nor the funds to qualify. To develop a third route, I settled on youth politics.

    I helped organize Louisiana State University's YAF chapter in 1961. In 1962, I helped organize L.S.U.'s first College Republican Club and was the first elected College Republican state chairman for Louisiana.

    In 1963 and early 1964, I ran the youth campaign for Charlton Lyons, the Republican candidate for governor of Louisiana. Mr. Lyons won eight smashing, upset victories in college student mock elections, which raised my credit in the party. Later in the spring of 1964, I was elected state chairman of the Young Republicans.

    I wore out my old Rambler organizing youth activities across the state.

    Having worked closely with party leaders in all eight congressional districts, I became one of the handful of Republicans known to virtually every local leader who would be at the state convention. Senior party leaders were comfortable with me.

    I ran for national delegate with the simple slogan: "Elect one young person." The 1964 Louisiana Republican state convention elected four at-large delegates to the 1964 G.O.P. national convention: three well-off, veteran party activists and me.

    The Team
    Of course I would never have been a delegate if my presidential candidate, Barry Goldwater, had not been popular in the state party. In 1963, I was one of the original eight members of the Steering Committee of National Youth for Goldwater. I ran openly as a Goldwater supporter.


    This brings me to the central fact for aspirants to delegate slots:

    In a national presidential nomination contest, each candidate's district and state organizations may run slates of delegate candidates.

    If you are not slated by a candidate's organization, you are very unlikely to be elected a national delegate at a district or state convention or in a state primary.

    Occasionally, particularly in a convention state, a party senior statesman can be elected as an uncommitted delegate. Newcomer mugwumps (those who sit on the fence with their mug on one side and their "wump" on the other) go nowhere.

    Why might a candidate's state organization want you on their team? Here are some questions your candidate's organization will consider when you ask to be slated as a delegate or alternate delegate:


    1. Are you committed to our candidate?
    2. Are your commitments ever shaken by pressure, threats or bribes?
    3. Do you have personal supporters whose help would strengthen our candidate's entire slate of delegates?
    4. Will you be a hard-working campaigner for our slate of delegates?
    5. Are you sure to attend the national convention?
    6. Could you be useful to our candidate in winning more delegates to our side at the national convention?
    7. Do you have support and contacts in our candidate's national organization?
    8. Is there any likelihood you will say or do something foolish to damage our candidate?
    9. Is there anything in your background which would embarrass our candidate?
    10. Do we like you?

    If you are philosophically sound, technologically proficient, and movement oriented, you should pass muster on all these questions. Being a well-known volunteer leader would increase your chances of being slated by your candidate's organization.

    Alternatives May Work For You
    You don't have to be a delegate to go to a presidential nominating convention.

    An alternate delegate has all the rights and privileges a delegate has except voting. An alternate delegate may have a better time, because at contested conventions delegates are encouraged not to leave the convention floor even during dull speeches.
    In fact, you do not have to be either a delegate or an alternate delegate to have an impact on the events at a convention. When I was a Goldwater delegate in 1964, my major accomplishment was minor at the national convention in San Francisco. As a volunteer, I stuffed campaign envelopes for other delegates in the Goldwater mailroom.

    In 1968, as a Reagan alternate delegate, I was able to help convince a couple of uncommitted delegates to vote for Reagan.
    At the 1972 G.O.P. convention, I was neither delegate nor alternate. But I worked successfully with the conservative forces fighting against a well-organized, well-funded liberal attempt to change the national party rules governing delegate allocation and bonus delegates.

    A plan I drafted, which came to be known as the California Compromise (or the Briar Patch Plan), was adopted by the 1972 convention after a major, nationally televised, conservative vs. liberal fight.

    The principal speaker for our conservative plan was California Governor Ronald Reagan. Since 1972 that delegate allocation plan has withstood liberal challenges in court and at some subsequent G.O.P. national conventions. With few changes, it still is the basis for the allocation of delegates to the national convention.

    Since 1964, I've participated actively in each of the GOP national conventions, almost always as a delegate or alternate delegate but also, since 1988, as a member from Virginia of my party's national committee. The circumstances back in 1972, when I was not even an alternate delegate, permitted me to have what was probably my biggest impact to date on what went on at a presidential nominating convention.

    So don't miss a national convention just because you can't be a delegate.

    Start Now
    In politics you can start late, but you can never start too early.

    Maximize your effectiveness by joining your candidate's campaign organization as soon as you can. Call your candidate's office. Sign on early as an activist. The election process puts a premium on volunteer efforts. You should be welcomed with open arms.
    Your work for your candidate, not whether or not you are a delegate, will determine your position in your candidate's convention organization.

    The Big Convention comes only once every four years. It's too good an opportunity to miss. If you are serious about becoming a delegate or alternate, you should get a copy of your state party's rules from local or state party officials, or from your candidate's state or national organization.

    Conservatism is now politically fashionable. But few people will beg you to assume leadership. As historian Paul Johnson wrote, leadership, in its essence, is a combination of courage and judgment. If you plan carefully, work hard, and keep alert for good breaks, you may make a difference at a national convention. And you'll learn a lot.


    - See more at: http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/N....xzDmeaOO.dpuf




    Last edited by Matt Collins; 04-03-2015 at 03:54 PM.
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    would love to, only problem is the asswipes running the republican party probably wouldn't want someone who was a State Delegate for Ron Paul in 2008...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    would love to, only problem is the asswipes running the republican party probably wouldn't want someone who was a State Delegate for Ron Paul in 2008...
    Yes, that part explained is here:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...C-Rules-update
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    Morton Blackwell was one of the ones fighting the rules changes at the 2012 RNC. When it came time to vote, he was still on the bus, which was driving around the venue. He wasn't a Ron Paul guy, either, just an advocate for grassroots in general.

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    Do You Want to be a National Convention Delegate?


    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Bumping important thread
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Was a state delegate for RP. Fun stuf But very political.
    "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
    James Madison

    "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams



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    You lost me at #'s 8, 9, & 10.

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    Warning: I realize I'm not the perfect candidate but would at least like to give it a shot !


    1.Are you committed to our candidate?
    Yes
    2.Are your commitments ever shaken by pressure, threats or bribes?
    You mean peeing on my lawn ? Yes. Buying me a soda ? Yes
    3.Do you have personal supporters whose help would strengthen our candidate's entire slate of delegates?
    Yes , I mean no , the word delagate is over my head .
    4.Will you be a hard-working campaigner for our slate of delegates?
    Yes , I can work at least two hours every other tuesday.
    5.Are you sure to attend the national convention?
    What Nation ? (he he ha...)
    6.Could you be useful to our candidate in winning more delegates to our side at the national convention?
    Yes , I have a Federal Reserve Printing Press in my basement.
    7.Do you have support and contacts in our candidate's national organization?
    I have gummie bears.
    8.Is there any likelihood you will say or do something foolish to damage our candidate?
    You mean like declaring I'm the real DARPA Director or I hate gays and Vaccines ?
    9.Is there anything in your background which would embarrass our candidate?
    I'm pretty good at looking desperate, is that embarassing ?
    10.Do we like you?
    Do you like herpes?

    , ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    You lost me at #'s 8, 9, & 10.


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    No thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    No thank you.
    Would you at least like to become a state delegate? Where do you live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzrulez View Post
    Would you at least like to become a state delegate? Where do you live?
    No thank you. I was elected a county delegate in 2008 in Harris County, TX...however I have no desire to be a Republican again or even part of the process at this point in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    No thank you. I was elected a county delegate in 2008 in Harris County, TX...however I have no desire to be a Republican again or even part of the process at this point in time.
    Okay, fair enough. What made you not want to do it this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzrulez View Post
    Okay, fair enough. What made you not want to do it this time?

    History
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    History
    Please don't mind me, but I'd like to take an accurate assessment of the reasons. It's going to be important to know why you personally have been turned off by becoming a Delegate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzrulez View Post
    Please don't mind me, but I'd like to take an accurate assessment of the reasons. It's going to be important to know why you personally have been turned off by becoming a Delegate.
    I don't see why it's important. Let's just say the actions of the GOP with regard to the Ron Paul delegates leading up to and during the last RNC left a sour taste in my mouth as well as being very enlightening as to "the way things are". It's irrelevant however because I no longer belong to their party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    I don't see why it's important. Let's just say the actions of the GOP with regard to the Ron Paul delegates leading up to and during the last RNC left a sour taste in my mouth as well as being very enlightening as to "the way things are". It's irrelevant however because I no longer belong to their party.
    same for me too, but must keep pushing forward. This is important, because there's a challenge to motivate the "old timers" into teaching the "youngsters". It's very important to that aspect of passing the torch onwards and building critical momentum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    No thank you. I was elected a county delegate in 2008 in Harris County, TX...however I have no desire to be a Republican again or even part of the process at this point in time.
    All that is needed for tyranny to triumph is for good people to do nothing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    All that is needed for tyranny to triumph is for good people to do nothing...

    Thank you for that platitude. Tyranny HAS triumphed. We live in a virtual police state. Our every move is watched. Our every conversation listened to. We are physically groped before we can fly on a plane. Candidates cannot get elected without millions and millions of dollars and then they must compromise those very same principles that inspired that quote in order to pay lip service to War, Inc. It's not 2007 anymore. Hope and change has left the building. That's how I feel..I expect everyone else to follow their own path.

    At any rate, I won't rain on the parade here but rather than posting that list of criteria perhaps you should post a detailed list of every step required to actually become a delegate from the precinct level up.
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    I'm sure people here would like to be delegates. Whether they will let them is another thing. The Maine delegation wasn't that long ago. Ideally, I'd see delegates being chosen more if they were already a part of the Party process leading up to this point. Let's not forget how often longstanding members make the valid and correct claim that younger folks only show up when it's to benefit their candidate and rarely appear at other events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NoSmile View Post
    I'm sure people here would like to be delegates. Whether they will let them is another thing. The Maine delegation wasn't that long ago. Ideally, I'd see delegates being chosen more if they were already a part of the Party process leading up to this point. Let's not forget how often longstanding members make the valid and correct claim that younger folks only show up when it's to benefit their candidate and rarely appear at other events.
    Here's the thing though. In a lot of state conventions 2012, we were very very close to a majority. Think Iowa. Rand has wider appeal, or at least we will surely find out.

    Not to mention, the lasting effect of precinct comitteepeople, and having a high impact on local elections if one is so inclined to keep going. I'd say at least show up for, and coach someone who's interested in becoming a Delegate if you see the opportunity to do so. Also tell them of your negative aspects too, because that's also useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzrulez View Post
    Here's the thing though. In a lot of state conventions 2012, we were very very close to a majority. Think Iowa. Rand has wider appeal, or at least we will surely find out.

    Not to mention, the lasting effect of precinct comitteepeople, and having a high impact on local elections if one is so inclined to keep going. I'd say at least show up for, and coach someone who's interested in becoming a Delegate if you see the opportunity to do so. Also tell them of your negative aspects too, because that's also useful.
    Yes, we were super duper close last time. I bet we'll be super super duper close this time.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 04-08-2015 at 07:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzrulez View Post
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    Interesting username on Ron/Rand Paul's Forum. Are you recruiting people to be national delegates for Ted Cruz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Yes, we were super duper close last time. I bet we'll be super super duper close this time.

    I bet no one even gets their fingers broken this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Tyranny HAS triumphed.
    Only because it hasn't been fought effectively.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Only because it hasn't been fought effectively.


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    Indeed. Agreed 1000%.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Only because it hasn't been fought effectively.


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    So why did Jesse Benton give away my state's delegates to Romney last time? No thanks, not interested to watch some last minute deal like that take place again.

    Besides, there's still the problem of not qualifying under #'s 8, 9, & 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    So why did Jesse Benton give away my state's delegates to Romney last time?
    I am not sure that he did...
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