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Thread: Could There be a Worse Time for a “Don’t Film Cops” Bill?

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    Could There be a Worse Time for a “Don’t Film Cops” Bill?

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    "Reasonable request..."

    Next month cops will be wearing hoods, I mean why does anyone need to know who is tasing
    you to death ?

    Film Cops whenever you can.

    ,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Next month cops will be wearing hoods...,

    I see no difference between lice and others who wear hoods.






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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Pass it, replete with full load hypocrisy. Then enforce it strictly.

    Need to see where America's sweet spot lies... i.e., if it even has one.
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    Am I the only one who was hoping for a good TMOT rant?
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    best time, so proponents can be primaried.

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    Best advice here is as follows, " always carry/conceal a second hidden camera/recorder..."" consider it backup....

    My .02

    Acesfull



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    This is why I was saying a while ago that a great platform for a liberty casucus person, but probably not Rand, to stand on would be a law or amendment making it lawful to record any interaction between any government worker and the public during the course of official duties.

    It would have a lot of really fun implications in other areas.

    Besides, they have nothing to hide right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull View Post
    Best advice here is as follows, " always carry/conceal a second hidden camera/recorder..."" consider it backup....

    My .02

    Acesfull
    good advice and even so....you shouldn't have too.
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    What is one to do if the cop comes closer telling you to stop filming, closing the distance between you and the cop? Back up quickly or run? hmmmm, resisting, fleeing, what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    What is one to do if the cop comes closer telling you to stop filming, closing the distance between you and the cop? Back up quickly or run? hmmmm, resisting, fleeing, what?
    Good point. Where the displeasure of a kop is concerned, you really cannot win. This is often true even when you comply to the fullness of your understanding of what is being demanded.
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    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    This is why I was saying a while ago that a great platform for a liberty casucus person, but probably not Rand, to stand on would be a law or amendment making it lawful to record any interaction between any government worker and the public during the course of official duties.
    Or those unofficial activities carried out under color of law.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Not allowing the tax payer to film the tax payee - geeeez - where DID we go wrong?!?!
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
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    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    Not allowing the tax payer to film the tax payee - geeeez - where DID we go wrong?!?!
    meanwhile in Utah...









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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    Not allowing the tax payer to film the tax payee - geeeez - where DID we go wrong?!?!
    Allowing Police unions to exist and permitting them to donate money, and provide text for Rep. Jason Villalba to introduce as a bill was a part of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Allowing Police unions to exist and permitting them to donate money, and provide text for Rep. Jason Villalba to introduce as a bill was a part of it.
    I get it. I was just snarking about how stupid people are. We allow the gov't to dictate to us how much of our money we get to keep out of our paychecks, and then they use that money to pass laws that enable them to control us. And then we piss and moan when they do. END THE I.R.S.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    meanwhile in Utah...









    And who funds this? Yep! We do! We're so awwwwwesome!!!
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    He pulled the bill recently. I think he's gonna have to get a new job next year.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    I get it. I was just snarking about how stupid people are. We allow the gov't to dictate to us how much of our money we get to keep out of our paychecks, and then they use that money to pass laws that enable them to control us. And then we piss and moan when they do. END THE I.R.S.
    Absolutely. This is was a state level bill however.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    There is a reason why all the cops in future movies are covered from head toe and completely anonymous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Absolutely. This is was a state level bill however.
    Same difference though, isn't it? They still need tax money to pull it off. If the I.R.S. goes, it will be harder for state franchise tax boards to get away with what they now do.
    Last edited by Deborah K; 04-02-2015 at 10:45 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by ZENemy View Post
    There is a reason why all the cops in future movies are covered from head toe and completely anonymous.
    This reminds me, the San Diego PD is in hot water lately because of corruption and abuse. I think one good thing to come out of the Ferguson issue is the backlash from it, it's reverberating throughout many communities.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!



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