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    Latest Research: Coffee is good for health again

    Guess this cancels the news reports in MSM that say otherwise.

    Coffee can Cut Liver Cancer Risk Which Spikes with Three Drinks a Day

    28 Mar '15 09:49AM

    (Photo : Kaicho20/Pixabay) Three drinks or 45 grams of alcohol is the tipping point for liver cancer, a new report claims

    Three drinks or 45 grams of alcohol is the tipping point for liver cancer, a new study has concluded.

    The research exercise which made the conclusions was based on data from 8.2 million adults worldwide, obtained through 34 studies. Published by World Cancer Research Fund International, the new report claims that intake of more than three glasses of alcohol upped the risk of liver but drinking a cup of coffee cut that risk. Liver Cancer kills about 25,000 in US ever year.


    The study also associated increased risk of liver cancer with foods contaminated by aflatoxins. It was also claimed that there is limited evidence for exercise and fish consumption decreasing risk of liver cancer.

    Coffee has been show shown to reduce or prevent expression of genes associated with inflammatory responses. The study noted that such effects were pronounced in liver. Coffee's cancer prevention traits are also attributed to its DNA repair abilities.

    "The evidence for coffee was generally consistent, and the dose-response meta-analysis showed a significant decreased risk of liver cancer per one cup per day. This was consistent with findings from three published meta-analyses. When stratified by sex, the association was significant for men but not for women," researchers wrote in the report.

    http://www.newseveryday.com/articles...drinks-day.htm



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    I always figured it was the sugar and caffeine that was not-so-healthy... not the coffee itself.

    I just need to get some decaf because I miss coffee.
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  4. #3
    Cool. I hardly ever drink it, but I'm glad its healthy again.
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    Just make sure it is Organic coffee since coffee is heavily sprayed with pesticides. Also if you want decaf make sure it is Swiss water processed, otherwise they use harsh chemicals to decaffeinate it.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Just make sure it is Organic coffee since coffee is heavily sprayed with pesticides. Also if you want decaf make sure it is Swiss water processed, otherwise they use harsh chemicals to decaffeinate it.
    Thanks! I'll remember that.
    “I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other.”

    ― Henry David Thoreau

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Just make sure it is Organic coffee since coffee is heavily sprayed with pesticides. Also if you want decaf make sure it is Swiss water processed, otherwise they use harsh chemicals to decaffeinate it.
    I recommend staying away from the Monkey Poop coffee as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    I recommend staying away from the Monkey Poop coffee as well.
    That is good advice.

    Chilled Monkey brains is great on a hot summer night though...


    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Just make sure it is Organic coffee since coffee is heavily sprayed with pesticides. Also if you want decaf make sure it is Swiss water processed, otherwise they use harsh chemicals to decaffeinate it.
    Oh that is OK. Ounce for ounce, caffeine is ten times more toxic than Roundup is. (but both would require huge amounts to kill you).

    http://geneticliteracyproject.org/20...xic-to-humans/

    So how toxic is glyphosate exactly? To examine toxicity, one must look at the LD50 value given to the chemical in question. LD50 is a standard measure of acute toxicity for chemicals, expressed in the amount of chemical (milligrams) per body weight (kg) that it took to kill fifty percent of a population of test animals. Because LD50 is a standard measure, it is used to compare toxicities of compounds; the lower the number, the more toxic it is.

    Glyphosate has a LD50 of 5600 mg/kg based on oral ingestions in rats, according to EPA assessments (PDF), placing it in Toxicity Category III. The EPA ranks chemicals in four categories, I being the most toxic and IV being the least. The EPA has also found that glyphosate does not cause cancer. To compare, caffeine has a much lower LD50 of 192 mg/kg based on oral ingestions in rats.

    Caffeine is over ten times more toxic than glyphosate. Is this cause for concern? Should we stop drinking coffee? No, the main reason being that a typical dosage of caffeine is not high enough to cause toxicity. Let’s look at the numbers. With LD50 of 192 mg/kg, it would take 12192 mg of caffeine to kill an average 140 lb human being. A typical 8 oz cup of coffee only contains 95 mg of caffeine, much lower than the dose required for acute toxicity. The same reasoning applies to glyphosate. Following the same calculations, it would take 12.5 oz of glyphosate to kill an average 140 lb human being. That means drinking about three gallons of Roundup Original.



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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    That is good advice.

    Chilled Monkey brains is great on a hot summer night though...


    That GIF is way creepier than that scene was. Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Oh that is OK. Ounce for ounce, caffeine is ten times more toxic than Roundup is. (but both would require huge amounts to kill you).

    http://geneticliteracyproject.org/20...xic-to-humans/

    Tell that to this guy...




    Oh, and coffee has been around a lot longer than glyphosate has.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Just make sure it is Organic coffee since coffee is heavily sprayed with pesticides. Also if you want decaf make sure it is Swiss water processed, otherwise they use harsh chemicals to decaffeinate it.
    Good to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Oh that is OK. Ounce for ounce, caffeine is ten times more toxic than Roundup is. (but both would require huge amounts to kill you).
    While you raise an excellent truth but I think health goal for most folks is not just to come out alive after consuming a beverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    While you raise an excellent truth but I think health goal for most folks is not just to come out alive after consuming a beverage.
    Speak for yourself.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-selling-wines

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Ounce for ounce, caffeine is ten times more toxic than Roundup is. (but both would require huge amounts to kill you).
    The concern is the long term, cumulative effects. It's also a dumb comparison because one is consumed as a beverage and one is not.

    Your approach to toxicity is the completely skewed and ideological approach of everything is toxic! That's fairly meaningless when examining accumulations over very long periods.

    Saying things like water is toxic in-and-of-itself distorts the science. Saying that eating too many carrots is also meaningless when no one is actually going to eat multiple pounds of carrots day-in-and-day-out.
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  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Ounce for ounce, caffeine is ten times more toxic than Roundup is.
    That's accute toxicity. Table salt is also twice as accutely toxic as glyphosate. It says nothing accumulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    That's accute toxicity. Table salt is also twice as accutely toxic as glyphosate. It says nothing accumulation.
    Cornell University researchers examined that. They found it does not accumulate. http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles...osate-ext.html

    Chronic Toxicity

    Subchronic and chronic tests with glyphosate have been conducted with rats, dogs, mice, and rabbits in studies lasting from 21 days to two years. With few exceptions there were no treatment-related gross (easily observable) or cellular changes (5). In a chronic feeding study with rats, no toxic effects were observed in rats given doses as high as 31 mg/kg/day, the highest dose tested. No toxic effects were observed in a chronic feeding study with dogs fed up to 500 mg/kg/day, the highest dose tested (8). Mice fed glyphosate for 90 days exhibited reduced body weight gains. The lifetime administration of very high amounts of glyphosate produced only a slight reduction of body weight and some microscopic liver and kidney changes. Blood chemistry, cellular components, and organ function were not affected even at the highest doses.

    Organ Toxicity

    Glyphosate caused no changes in the rate of body weight gain, in blood, nor in kidneys or liver. The studies were conducted at doses up to 500 mg/kg (3).

    Fate in Humans and Animals

    Glyphosate is poorly absorbed from the digestive tract and is largely excreted unchanged by mammals. Ten days after treatment there were only minute amounts in the tissues of rats fed glyphosate for three weeks (3).

    Cows, chickens, and pigs fed small amounts had undetectable levels (less than 0.05 ppm) in muscle tissue and fat. Levels in milk and eggs were also undetectable (less than 0.025 ppm). Nearly all glyphosate residues were rapidly eliminated by fish that had been exposed for 10 to 14 days once these fish were transferred to glyphosate-free water. Glyphosate has no significant potential to accumulate in animal tissue
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-29-2015 at 09:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Cornell University researchers examined that. They found it does not accumulate.
    ..studies lasting from 21 days to two years.

    21 days?! Nobody gets cancer in 21 days. Or even two years. Follow somebody for 40 years.
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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    21 days?! Nobody gets cancer in 21 days. Or even two years. Follow somebody for 40 years.
    Some of the studies did look at lifetime impacts.

    The lifetime administration of very high amounts of glyphosate produced only a slight reduction of body weight and some microscopic liver and kidney changes.

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    Found in urine means it is leaving the body.

    Yes, it was found but at what levels? According to the German study showing it in urine http://www.ithaka-journal.net/herbizide-im-urin?lang=en ,

    The study found glyphosate in all urine samples at values ranging from 0.5 to 2 ng glyphosate per ml urine
    ng is nano grams which is one BILLIONTH of a gram. At that amount, you can find everything in urine or blood or breast milk. Two nanograms per ml is only two parts per billion.

    Just to give some perspective to that number, say you had a lot of potato chips. Say you had TEN TONS of potato chips. Now add just one pinch of salt to those ten tons of potato chips. Now you have one part per billion of salt in those chips. That is REALLY SMALL and insignificant.

    Or look at it another way- if this was some disease which effected two in a billion people, with seven billion people on the entire planet, only fourteen people in the whole world would have it.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-30-2015 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Some of the studies did look at lifetime impacts.

    Not a human life. Try it for 60 years.

    "Microscopic" liver and kidney damage does not mean the damage is not significant.
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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Found in urine means it is leaving the body.
    It's not leaving the blood. The breast milk goes to someone else.
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    Coffee's Latest Claim to Fame: Erection Aid

    (NEWSER) – Coffee, what can't you do? It's been suggested the beverage may be able to lower your risk for multiple sclerosis, melanoma, and retinal degeneration, among other things. Now it appears the brewed beverage might also help men who are suffering from a decidedly sensitive issue: erectile dysfunction. A study published in Plos One by researchers at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston found that men who consumed more caffeinated beverages (coffee, tea, soda, and sports drinks were all used in the study) were less likely to be impotent than subjects who refrained from or drank very little of it, CBS News reports. But although a variety of men (e.g., those who were obese or had high blood pressure) seemed to benefit from coffee's boost, there was one group on whom the caffeine had a negligible effect: diabetic men.

    The study had 3,724 men take a health and nutritional survey that asked them about their caffeine intake and whether they suffered from ED, per the study. Two to three cups o' joe per day seemed to be the sweet spot in terms of helping with impotence: Men who downed that amount (about 85 to 170 milligrams of caffeine) were 42% less likely to report ED than men who polished off the lowest amount of caffeine in the study (zero to 7 milligrams), CBS notes; meanwhile, guys who started to surpass that three-cup cap and finished 171 to 303 milligrams of caffeine were 39% less likely to report ED than their caffeine-deprived co-participants. So how exactly does coffee mitigate this problem? Researchers think that the caffeine may enhance blood flow to the penis by getting certain muscles and arteries down there to chill out and relax, notes CBS.
    http://www.newser.com/story/207244/c...ction-aid.html



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