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    The American History Of Compulsory Vaccination and its Ties to Eugenics



    By Attorney Jonathan Emord

    Legislators in thirteen states have introduced bills that would severely constrict or eliminate exemptions from compulsory vaccination, with the intended aim of coercing, cajoling, or forcing those who have not been vaccinated to become so. Those states are California (SB 277); Illinois (SB 1410); Maine (LD 606); Maryland (HB 687); Minnesota (SF 380 and HF 393); New Jersey (S 1147 and A351); New Mexico (HB 522); Oregon (SB 442); Pennsylvania; Rhode Island (S381); Texas (SB 1114; SB 538; HB 2006); Vermont (H212; S87); and Washington (HB 2009).

    Amidst hysteria arising from a relatively small number of cases of measles (some 600 last year and some 150 this year), law makers would take away everyone’s rights to liberty and personal autonomy.

    Given the likelihood that at least some of these draconian measures will pass, it is wise to reflect upon our history to see from whence this peculiar deviation from ordinary protection for liberty rights comes. It is also wise to appreciate that the law favoring compulsory vaccination is now scientifically anachronistic and that modern understanding of immunology enables us to employ measures that reduce the risk of disease carriage and transmission without forcibly tying down children and adults and injecting them with substances they do not wish to have in their bodies.

    It will surprise many to learn that the concept of compulsory vaccination has national socialist roots in our country that spring from the same drive for a “master race” that led the Nazis to embrace eugenics (including forced sterilization) and dysgenics (including execution of the Jews and others deemed “undesirable”). It will surprise many to learn that the person most responsible for eliminating constitutional protections against such intrusions (the Fourteenth Amendment) is one regarded as among America’s greatest jurists and legal scholars, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. Holmes believed in eugenics and even dysgenics (execution of those whom he regarded as “feeble-minded,” “undesirable,” and “inadequate”).

    Horrific to any reasonable person in any age, Holmes relished in the idea of creating a “pure” American bloodline through government mandated infanticide and sterilizations. It was therefore of little consequence to him that individuals be forcibly vaccinated, because in his view the science of eugenics and purification of the race were far more important to protect and advance than the individual’s right to liberty.

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    Great article.

    "[We should] apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring." ~ Margaret Sanger

    "The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." ~ Margaret Sanger


    Bill Gates and Planned Parenthood:

    GATES: When I was growing up, my parents were almost involved in various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so it’s fascinating. At the dinner table my parents are very good at sharing the things that they were doing. And almost treating us like adults, talking about that.
    My mom was on the United Way group that decides how to allocate the money and looks at all the different charities and makes the very hard decisions about where that pool of funds is going to go. So I always knew there was something about really educating people and giving them choices in terms of family size.
    https://saynsumthn.wordpress.com/201...re-conference/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives.

    It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, to prevent our being swamped with incompetence.

    It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind.

    The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes.

    - Oliver Wendell Holmes, writing for the majority in Buck v. Bell

    A decision that, to this day, has not been reversed.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 03-28-2015 at 12:05 PM.

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    Yes- vaccines cause sterilization or are meant to kill of selected people (eugenics). That is why when billions of people on the planet are vaccinated, the population continues to grow.

    I guess since Ron Paul was a doctor and vaccinated people he was a eugenecist too. Vaccines = Nazi Germany is pretty ridiculous.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-28-2015 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yes- vaccines cause sterilization or are meant to kill of selected people (eugenics). That is why when billions of people on the planet are vaccinated, the population continues to grow.
    Are you in favor of this, to bring people into compliance?

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 03-28-2015 at 01:44 PM.

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    Can't stick a needle in your arm, unless it's loaded with that big pharm.

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    When big pharm invents a vaccine that only targets politicians and government employees I'll be ripe for discussion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yes- vaccines cause sterilization or are meant to kill of selected people (eugenics). That is why when billions of people on the planet are vaccinated, the population continues to grow.

    I guess since Ron Paul was a doctor and vaccinated people he was a eugenecist too. Vaccines = Nazi Germany is pretty ridiculous.
    Now, Zip....this is special pleading. Right?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yes- vaccines cause sterilization or are meant to kill of selected people (eugenics). That is why when billions of people on the planet are vaccinated, the population continues to grow.

    I guess since Ron Paul was a doctor and vaccinated people he was a eugenecist too. Vaccines = Nazi Germany is pretty ridiculous.
    Vaccines cause women to be prostitutes. The earth has finite resources and the more living beings there are then the less resources available. Soon, women will have to sell their bodies to get a small fraction of these resources. Are you in favor of forced prostitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I guess since Ron Paul was a doctor and vaccinated people he was a eugenecist too.
    If government can mandate that children receive vaccines, then why shouldn't the government mandate that adults receive certain types of vaccines? And if it is the law that individuals must be vaccinated, then why shouldn't police officers be empowered to physically force resisters to receive a vaccine? If the fear of infections from the unvaccinated justifies mandatory vaccine laws, then why shouldn't police offices fine or arrest people who don't wash their hands or cover their noses or mouths when they cough or sneeze in public? Why not force people to eat right and take vitamins in order to lower their risk of contracting an infectious disease? These proposals may seem outlandish, but they are no different in principle from the proposal that government force children to be vaccinated. - Ron Paul 2015

    Vaccines = Nazi Germany is pretty ridiculous.
    Compulsory vaccination most certainly is.

    If the state, for no other reason than some loosely defined "general good", can strap you down and medicate you against your will, or rip out your reproductive organs, then you are "officially" living in a "Nazi-esque" regime.

    And that is the law of the land, here in the home of the knave.

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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    *Double post*
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    It is true that the tetanus vaccine program was directed towards women of child bearing age- there is a high rate of tetanus deaths of babies in Kenya- over 500 last year alone which is more than one a day. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29594091

    Tetanus is regarded as a big threat to babies in Kenya, with a new-born child dying every day of the infection.

    According to Kenya's health ministry, about 550 babies died of tetanus in Kenya last year.
    Actually not six, but nearly sixty vials were tested- only three actually claimed to have found some trace of the antigen.

    Kenya's Minisry of Health issued a statement arguing that although some vials contained HCG, the majority of the vials tested (56 out of 59) were negative.

    "These three vials were collected from the field during the campaign and submitted as open vials having being previously tested in other laboratories," the statement read.
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/kenya-catho...sation-1488667

    Vials were re-tested in another lab with better equipment and the tests all came back negative.

    Catholic Church (which had made the claim) declared them safe.

    "The vaccines supplied through Unicef and WHO are safe. Recent independent testing supported by the Government of Kenya and the Catholic doctors confirmed this," the statement said.

    "The joint statement issued by the Government and the Catholic doctors on 10 January 2015 declared the vaccines to be safe and also recommended routine monitoring of vaccines for quality assurance."
    The same claim was made for a vaccination program in the Phillipines in the 1990's. Their birth rate did not decline as a result of the vaccines. It actually rose.

    Also to note:

    The Star also quotes Dr Talwar from the Journal of Cell Science & Therapy as saying that HCG used to prevent pregnancy must be taken every three months and its effects are not permanent as it is claimed in the report.
    So getting a vaccine with HCG in it would not sterilize a person even if it was in the vaccine (and it wasn't in the Kenyan tetanus vaccine).
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 03-28-2015 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I guess since Ron Paul was a doctor and vaccinated people he was a eugenecist too. Vaccines = Nazi Germany is pretty ridiculous.
    What is ridiculous is your statement that Ron Paul and the possibility that he vaccinated people during his time in practice has anything to do with this thread, or the fact that multiple states are now considering bills to take away religious exemptions and start tracking people who refuse vaccines.

    Ron Paul would NEVER support these bills, and that is what this commentary from Attorney Jonathan Emord (a very good friend of Dr. Paul) is all about. It is a historical analysis showing how the "science" of the day (eugenics) during which Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. sat on the bench allowed states to pass laws forcing sterilization on women against their will, and that compulsory vaccinations did the same thing (force a medical procedure against one's will) during the same time period. But I doubt you even read the article to understand that.

    If in fact Ron Paul did administer vaccines during his practice, he did so to those who desired to use them, not under compulsion using the force of the State. Your feeble attempt to set up a straw man argument shows just how ignorant you are on this issue.
    Last edited by Created4; 03-29-2015 at 06:12 AM. Reason: typos
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
    (1 John 4:18)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    What is ridiculous is your statement that Ron Paul and the possibility that he vaccinated people during his time in practice has anything to do with this thread, or the fact that multiple states are now considering bills to take away religious exemptions or start tracking people who refuse vaccines.

    Ron Paul would NEVER support these bills, and that is what this commentary from Attorney Jonathan Emord (a very good friend of Dr. Paul) is all about. Is a historical analysis showing how the "science" of the day (eugenics) during which Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. sat on the bench allowed states to pass laws forcing sterilization on women against their will, and that compulsory vaccinations did the same thing (force a medical procedure against one's will) during the same time period. But I doubt you even read the article to understand that.

    If in fact Ron Paul did administer vaccines during his practice, he did so to those who desired to use them, not under compulsion using the force of the State. Your feeble attempt to set up a straw man argument shows just how ignorant you are on this issue.
    Well said.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    The OP author is running for US Senate:

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