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    A lawful and peaceful revolution.

    Some history and a description of the environment our lawful and peaceful revolution will take place in America.

    Since the very first framing document in 1776, the right to alter or abolish government destructive to rights has been a primary intent of the framers. The later 1787 constitution codified it as Article V. Both define our right to a lawful and peaceful revolution.

    Thomas Jefferson envisioned such a revolution every generation. By the early 1800's, it's fairly visible in his writing that he is wondering why there hasn't been one and wants to see one.

    A couple of factors seem to be controlling. One, there was a constant influx of immigrants that were not familiar with the options of protecting rights and freedoms. Two, the printed word seems to have pandered to the sensations a great deal. Ostensibly for profits, but also, basically diverting American focus from protecting rights and freedoms to social sensations or greed and fantasy. Easily an agenda of the elite.

    It turns out a factor of human psychology tied to physiology could very easily be to blame, even exploited. Because of left and right hemisphere control over perceptional capacity and potentials, what is spoken and heard always uses cognitive capacity whereas writing or reading, might be done without as much cognitive capacity.

    A factor relating to the control over newspapers plagued Lincoln. They would mostly not print his speeches. He spoke a great deal, but only those hearing knew what he had said, and for the most part were very impressed. Very few of his campaign speeches were published even in part. One that was was in his home state, Illinois stand out. From that 1859 speech we learn he was an avid supporter of an Article V convention with the impressive passage, "the people are the rightful masters of the congress and the courts. Not to overthrow the constitution but to overthrow the men that would pervert the constitution".

    Clearly, Lincoln could only be working for an Article V convention to try and avert civil war. But, the elements that wanted war controlled the printing presses, so his thoughts on preserving the union peacefully were not written. What was written were the words inflaming anger and resentment towards the south.* Coupling that with the many speeches against the south created a desire for war amongst many people of the north despite the fact that the north was all
    but impoverished.

    Herein we have an opening for an old enemy of rights and freedoms. The descendants of king john and the barons who signed the Magna Carta. The main financiers of the union army. Some say the Rothschild money was primary.

    At any rate, there was a very quiet takeover and abandonment of the 1787 constitution that occurred with the act of 1871. And that, in advanced form, is what we are confronting today in our federal government.

    That infiltration of course, always has and does, oppose Article V, our right to a lawful and peaceful revolution.

    At this point the issue of covert manipulation infiltrating American activism on the internet and elsewhere should be mentioned. Some of it originates from the UK or other commonwealth countries.

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...-manipulation/

    Other sources could be from the US.

    http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

    Basically their agenda is to prevent Americans from understanding and unifying around any strategy that could politically upset their current control or lead to any unity whatsoever opposing their agendas. Simply keeping Americans focused on the wrong things is plenty to block understanding which is the key to unity. Partisan politics is certainly a mainstay of preventing this revolution and always has been.

    The observant and objective member here has certainly noticed this.

    So within this, consider members here that refuse to agree or accept that the purpose of free speech is to enable unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish, could easily be covert agents or very much influenced by them. Particularly if involved with attacks against the concept. Others who have not agreed with that purpose of free speech could easily be simply influenced by the infiltration and be acting within what have become normal and natural social fears. This is what cognitive infiltration hopes for and depends upon. So by no means am I implying everyone here is a cognitive infiltrator. I am saying there are quite a few agents and most everyone has been influenced to varying degrees by the false agreement exhibited between the infiltrators regarding the purpose of free speech as well as other political issues.

    The legal and constitutional mechanisms of our lawful and peaceful revolution.

    This is actually an exceedingly simple plan. It's based on natural law, which is by definition almost a no-brainer. Our instincts provide the prime criteria for acceptance.

    You may have read me posting about "the purpose of free speech". I focus on that because many Americans know the key words of the Declaration of Independence (DOI) well enough from memory to confirm what I assert. Notice, no one is arguing with me. There is good reason for that because Americans do know enough of the DOI by heart to simply use the logic and reason I put forth to prove my point when I describe the purpose of free speech. The infiltration exposes itself with unreasonable opposition to the purpose of free speech with each failure to be accountable and reasonable. They can never be either, it is a lose-lose for them.

    The odds philosophically are heavily in our favor as free people under our constitution or law because the constitution or the documents which framed its intent include the biologically correct philosophies of natural law. Our social, phylogenetic instincts in action reacting and relating to one another under stress in pursuit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (notice the order there) guide us towards survival.

    The point is that if free speech does not have the purpose of enabling the unity adequate to empower the peoples action of "alter or abolish", what does?
    No one has ever answered that question reasonably. The people win! By default the purpose of free speech under law is PROVEN by default, everyday one of those deniers (agents) fails to produce a description of what creates unity if free speech does not have that purpose.

    Free speech is in essence the second constitutional right or intent we can actively engage to defend the constitution. It is in support of the first right we can engage; the right to alter or abolish; because free speech can create an understanding, which is the backbone of unity.

    Two other aspects, basic rights empowering true representative government are secured in preparation for the full fledged Article V convention. Fair and just elections and fair campaigning. This addresses any election fraud, the potentials for electronic manipulation as well as the citizens united decision. For a time, campaign finance will likely leave the realm of "freedom of expression" because economic power has failed to show it can avoid placing greed over the principles of the republic. Someday, if the powerful learn, they will again be allowed to contribute to our betterment by using developed discretion parallel to constitutional intent for $ to politicians, if they learn constitutional intent and act to serve it properly, constitutionally. Exhibiting an INTENT to unify, as in "united states".

    That convention will occur in social conditions far different than we now know. Because of the manifestation of free speech through mass media our adaptation to needed change will be underway. The stern restrictive dominance of fearfully obedient consumership will evaporate leaving openness to difficult truths with their logical implication of reasoned, logical, acceptable sacrifices.

    In that, human creative nature will begin to find the intellectual and emotional rewards of living lives focused on continuity for future generations rather than condemned consumption for comfort and false security.

    All in all, there are basically three amendments to the constitution to be considered as preparatory amendment for the purpose of making the nation of people more constitutional so they may properly define constitutional intent. Until that capacity to define intent is determined, no further amendment of any kind should take place, unless numerous states already have applications in on similar, proposed amendments.

    After the preparatory amendment and the end of the abridging of free speech, there will be an era of truth telling. This will rock our sheltered world, which is no less than a form of "designer reality". The purpose of free speech will be creating truly deep unity where nearly none had existed before.

    Part of that will be some new web forums that enable informed opinion quickly in an environment where covert agents can get no traction. From that, and their polling features, will come developed awareness and capacity to define or articulate constitutional intent. Those places on the internet will bear the proof of American peoples capacity to be "the rightful masters of the congress and the courts to be witnessed by the people themselves.

    But none of that describes the transition from partisan controlled politics inside of a media shell of misleading division to something with the dynamics needed to form state legislatures into leadership tools of and for the people. Or, State legislatures capable of unifying in control over the federal government via the amendments to the federal constitution 3/4 of them can make by ratification. This is not a re-write of the constitution. This is a very carefully considered set of adjustments that expose, remove an old infiltration while preventing any new ones.

    The states created the federal government and by amendment can alter parts of it and abolish others. But still, the people must define constitutional intent to shape states to lead to a republic by and for the people.

    Accordingly there is a needed transition period of great contention in 3/4 of the states. It is a time where a minority, who is exceedingly vocal and sure of itself, asserts itself with regard to the purpose of free speech with other constitutional intent, to the states imposing upon them legal, constitutional tests lawfully over all state officials. For the corrupt it is a challenge, for the sincere American leader it is an invitation and honor.

    There will be a parallel to the official test, which will be made upon media to either get publicity or expose the media entity as working against the constitution and the people.

    The exposures will often occur in courts, or also expose courts. Very quickly, when these challenges become legal questions in courts, corrupt courts will refuse to hear the cases whereupon the challenge will move to another court which will honor constitutional intent with lawful recognition from true legal authority under the constitution.
    In this way, media will be initially and lawfully be controlled because under the doctrine of purpose, which free speech must have for the constitution and republic under it to stand, government, and it's courts have a duty to enable American unity upon prime constitutional intent and preserve freedom of the press.

    In this way states will be assembled one by one into representing the peoples burning need for unity in their task of defeating the infiltration and conversion of the federal government from something resembling less and less, one nation under God, into a nation respecting its natural, human purposes to survive and adapt perpetually.

    And this is how it shall be, if we are to be free.

    ON EDIT: This is a step by step breakdown with the sequence of testing state officials for adequate constitutionality.

    An enquiry by petition to state officials-Do you accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable unity adequate to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights?

    A) Test officials and candidates for acceptance of the root purpose of free speech being to assure information vital to unity needed to alter or abolish is shared and understood.

    B)Test officials and candidates for acceptance of root purpose of free speech as prime constitutional intent used to create unity to conduct Article V with constitutional intent as the prime right for the purpose of protecting unalienable rights.

    C) As an official of government, can you accept that EVERY American can understand and accept A)?

    D) Are you aware that in 1911, 2/3 of the states applied for a convention and congress violated the law, their oath and the constitution by failing to convene delegates?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7qIQ1VkEg
    http://my.firedoglake.com/danielmark...al-convention/
    Can you accept that such a fact justifies that all delegates be elected in the states by the people of those states?

    Because of that letter, the house finally adopts rule to count states applications for Article V.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/u-s-...n-applications

    E) Can you understand and accept that any state legislator that cannot accept A), can be impeached in this constitutional emergency as being unfit for office?

    F)Can you understand and accept that A) B) C) D) & E) are legal process and that IF citizens act with D) as justification, and E) to complete the legal process, they WILL be "the rightful masters of the congress and the courts" BECAUSE their states, as led by the people, then will agree that proper preparation for Article V consists of;

    1) Amend Article V to assure the right to "alter or abolish" is enforceable under law by including preparatory amendment as a requirement.

    2) End the abridging of free speech.

    3) Securing the vote.

    4) Campaign finance reform.

    G) Americans need to agree that Officials of states and federal government must accept that such preparation by amendment is completely constitutional and can only enable democratic assertion of the principles of the republic, and, once complete; WHEREUPON all amendment should cease until America can be certain it is competent to Article V by testing itself to assure it knows and can define constitutional intent
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 05-09-2015 at 10:57 PM.



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    'Periodic revolution, “at least once every 20 years,” was “a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.” ' -- Thomas Jefferson 3rd US President (1801-1809)

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    The most meaningful revolution would be one that reinstates the Articles of Confederation as the main fundamental document controlling the power of the American state. As many have pointed out, despite the many libertarian concepts and checks and balances put into the Constitution, there were enough holes in it for crafty advocates of central power to circumvent it over time, into the total state fiasco we have now.
    -----Peace & Freedom, John Clifton-----
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    "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    The most meaningful revolution would be one that reinstates the Articles of Confederation as the main fundamental document controlling the power of the American state. As many have pointed out, despite the many libertarian concepts and checks and balances put into the Constitution, there were enough holes in it for crafty advocates of central power to circumvent it over time, into the total state fiasco we have now.
    The one thing left out which changes the picture of the federal governments role or behavior that you paint is the fact of the post civil war infiltration. The act of 1871 marks a point, where people not controlled by American values, were in control of America.

    There was a massive manipulation which produced a war. The war traumatized the nation dynamically. During that the infiltration occurred and since that time, almost all of the circumventing you describe has taken place.

    Using prime constitutional intent will undermine their premise of authority and provide substantial legal advantage.
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 03-27-2015 at 11:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    The most meaningful revolution would be one that reinstates the Articles of Confederation as the main fundamental document controlling the power of the American state. As many have pointed out, despite the many libertarian concepts and checks and balances put into the Constitution, there were enough holes in it for crafty advocates of central power to circumvent it over time, into the total state fiasco we have now.
    Throw in undeniable rights in micro-secession and nullification, and I'm down for it, bro.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Throw in undeniable rights in micro-secession and nullification, and I'm down for it, bro.
    Through repeated Article V conventions, each shrinking the federal gov, this could happen.

    The empire act will have to be ended first however. It is a disaster waiting to happen and beyond that it's mentality could never be sustainable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    The most meaningful revolution would be one that reinstates the Articles of Confederation as the main fundamental document controlling the power of the American state. As many have pointed out, despite the many libertarian concepts and checks and balances put into the Constitution, there were enough holes in it for crafty advocates of central power to circumvent it over time, into the total state fiasco we have now.
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Throw in undeniable rights in micro-secession and nullification, and I'm down for it, bro.
    Me too. However, I would point out that the uniformity of laws from state to state we know now could really suffer and could make some things a pain in the ass. Consider, if corporations lost their individual rights, individuals would be empowered in business. But that would happen without the existing power of corporations to jump through unrestrained hoops put up arbitrarily by states.

    Organizations like ALEC, on behalf of corporations, have been making things even more streamlined for doing business across states without concern for the peoples long term interests like those of the environment. With the Article of Confederation, that would properly disappear but the people would be hard pressed to replace them with something more thoughtful to their long term needs enabling their business.

    The circumvention of "checks and balances" mentioned by Peace&Freedom were not so much advanced by craftiness as they were by the hidden usurpation of the act of 1871. Admitted, the craftiness was empowered dynamically, but still took 150 years and dozens of minor usurpations only possible by the compromises that followed within 40 years of the act of 1871.

    It seems that comprehensiveness, exposure and inherent protection from such usurpation in the future, built into the constitution with very careful amendment, could mimic the inherent safety for rights and freedom the Articles of Confederation represented. This along with the repeated shrinking mentioned in my last reply could effect the minimal anarchy which I feel the framers intended and would provide incentive for the people to develop more and more independence.
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 04-01-2015 at 04:18 PM.



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    I'm wondering if any of the sincere Americans here have seen this thread and are catching on.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-thread)/page3

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    Curious...are you an American, Christopher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Curious...are you an American, Christopher?
    Santa Barbara is in California, yes.
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 04-05-2015 at 09:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Throw in undeniable rights in micro-secession and nullification, and I'm down for it, bro.
    Excellent, but apparently there is no support for the constitution, justice and the end of LE murders of citizens outraged at the lack of justice and constitutional government by the forum.

    My efforts to create constructive direction in the forum regarding the Baltimore riots prompted the mods to split the thread, and dump it into no-mans-land in the forum to get rid of the functional aspects developing.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...e-thread-split

    And not one poster has come to this thread in all my efforts to bring attention to an actual plan for Americans to defend the constitution and restore constitutional government.

    Basically this indicates the forum does not serve the restoration of constitutional government, justice and freedom and that a large percentage of members are indeed agents which have complained about my posting in the thread about Baltimore. They have done that because they are paid to keep mundane, useless aspects of the riots dominant in the thread and displace any functional discussion which is designed to prevent the violence and destruction or organize Americans into a lawful unified body which can conduct a lawful and peaceful revolution.

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    Christopher A. Brown, you are by far the most prolific anti-liberty poster I've seen on this site in quite some time.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Isn't attempting to overthrow the government, by definition a criminal offense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    The most meaningful revolution would be one that reinstates the Articles of Confederation as the main fundamental document controlling the power of the American state. As many have pointed out, despite the many libertarian concepts and checks and balances put into the Constitution, there were enough holes in it for crafty advocates of central power to circumvent it over time, into the total state fiasco we have now.
    If tptb didn't, won't, and will not adhere to the Constitution, why would anyone believe they'll adhere to the AofC?
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher A. Brown View Post
    Excellent, but apparently there is no support for the constitution, justice and the end of LE murders of citizens outraged at the lack of justice and constitutional government by the forum.

    My efforts to create constructive direction in the forum regarding the Baltimore riots prompted the mods to split the thread, and dump it into no-mans-land in the forum to get rid of the functional aspects developing.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...e-thread-split

    And not one poster has come to this thread in all my efforts to bring attention to an actual plan for Americans to defend the constitution and restore constitutional government.

    Basically this indicates the forum does not serve the restoration of constitutional government, justice and freedom and that a large percentage of members are indeed agents which have complained about my posting in the thread about Baltimore. They have done that because they are paid to keep mundane, useless aspects of the riots dominant in the thread and displace any functional discussion which is designed to prevent the violence and destruction or organize Americans into a lawful unified body which can conduct a lawful and peaceful revolution.
    In a nutshell, can you please explain how you have a lawful revolt against the government?
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!



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    A lawful and peaceful revolution.
    Got any more oxymorons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    In a nutshell, can you please explain how you have a lawful revolt against the government?
    The united states constitution Article V provides for proposing amendments to what IS the operating parameters of the federal government. States are to also abide by this.

    Article V has one huge limit on amendments, they MUST have constitutional intent.

    Only the people can define constitutional intent through their agreement.

    By agreeing upon a definition of what prime constitutional intent is, we become "the rightful masters of the congress and the courts". The strategy of legal process defined in the beginning of this thread can be used by the people to purify state governments which are the only entities that have authority under Article V when 3/4 are ratifying.

    When 5,000 Americans in complete agreement upon definition of prime constitutional intent impose the legal process described upon state governments. ALL officials of government, including the cops are going to assimilate the natural law meaning and functions of the defined prime constitutional intent.

    Most of the good cops "providing security" for the state legislators etc, will want to drop the badge, keep the gun, and join the protestors demanding constitutional officials. Some may.

    Others may join in legal action similar to the soldiers inquiry.

    http://algoxy.com/ows/soldiersinquiry.html

    If the mislead anarchists and others involved with OWS are wise, they will work to make media accountable to provide complete coverage of the movement.

    At that point the rest of America begins to get educated and join in.

    At this point the infiltrators will begin to jump ship. States will soon conducting conventions focusing upon preparatory amendment creating a constitutional enough nation to actually define constitutional intent by a majority.

    At a point where 3/4 of the states have ratified the proposed preparatory amendment, the abridging of the purpose of free speech will end. Shortly thereafter extreme controversy will hit prime time national television, and the MSM will be helpless to stop it IF thy want to maintain their state held corporate status as broadcasters.

    I have conceptualized software for a new type of forum called "Poll to Post" that will greatly enhance and speed this process.

    http://algoxy.com/poly/poll_to_post.html
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 04-30-2015 at 09:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Christopher A. Brown, you are by far the most prolific anti-liberty poster I've seen on this site in quite some time.
    How about proving how I am anti-liberty with some quotes, links etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    In a nutshell, can you please explain how you have a lawful revolt against the government?
    Sorry, I thought I had posted this step by step, state by state strategy which details a lawful peaceful revolution using constitutional intent.

    An enquiry by petition to state officials-Do you accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable unity adequate to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights?

    A) Test officials and candidates for acceptance of the root purpose of free speech being to assure information vital to unity needed to alter or abolish is shared and understood.

    B)Test officials and candidates for acceptance of root purpose of free speech as prime constitutional intent used to create unity to conduct Article V with constitutional intent as the prime right for the purpose of protecting unalienable rights.

    C) As an official of government, can you accept that EVERY American can understand and accept A)?

    D) Are you aware that in 1911, 2/3 of the states applied for a convention and congress violated the law, their oath and the constitution by failing to convene delegates?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7qIQ1VkEg
    http://my.firedoglake.com/danielmark...al-convention/
    Can you accept that such a fact justifies that all delegates be elected in the states by the people of those states?

    Because of that letter, the house finally adopts rule to count states applications for Article V.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/u-s-...n-applications

    E) Can you understand and accept that any state legislator that cannot accept A), can be impeached in this constitutional emergency as being unfit for office?

    F)Can you understand and accept that A) B) C) D) & E) are legal process and that IF citizens act with D) as justification, and E) to complete the legal process, they WILL be "the rightful masters of the congress and the courts" BECAUSE their states, as led by the people, then will agree that proper preparation for Article V consists of;

    1) Amend Article V to assure the right to "alter or abolish" is enforceable under law by including preparatory amendment as a requirement.

    2) End the abridging of free speech.

    3) Securing the vote.

    4) Campaign finance reform.

    G) Americans need to agree that Officials of states and federal government must accept that such preparation by amendment is completely constitutional and can only enable democratic assertion of the principles of the republic, and, once complete; WHEREUPON all amendment should cease until America can be certain it is competent to Article V by testing itself to assure it knows and can define constitutional intent
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 04-30-2015 at 04:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Got any more oxymorons?
    Prove that the notion of a peaceful revolution is an oxymoron.

    Prove that the intent of Article V is other than a lawful and peaceful revolution.

    Generally you are not accountable with any proof of you assertions. So I'm not expecting any now. With that, you are by default, promoting violent revolution or NO revolution. Despicable and shameful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Isn't attempting to overthrow the government, by definition a criminal offense?
    Through Article V, with the states acting under the control of the people, a lawful effective revolution can take place.

    They key to this is the realization that Lincoln in 1859 said, "the people are the rightful masters of the congress and the courts" because the people are t sonly ones that can DEFINE constitutional intent. The courts and congress can only interpret it.

    Article V is the democratic control over the republic.

    The people only need to agree upon definition of PRIME constitutional intent. This is actually fairly easy, but, very much out-of-the-box of politics that Americans have learned. Which shows how government has been protecting its unconstitutional status by not teaching the truth of the structure of the republic and how it protests itself.

    Following the act of 1871 this is very much a logical usurpation of constitutional intent that would be expected by the infiltrators that divided the country with war.

    To argue with this is to go along with and support the infiltration.

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    Hi, Chris. Let's talk.

    Are you a mason? Do you have an opinion on the masons? You seem like you might. I'm always looking for clues and what not.
    When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    Hi, Chris. Let's talk.

    Are you a mason? Do you have an opinion on the masons? You seem like you might. I'm always looking for clues and what not.
    I am not a Mason. I do understand them very well on a level they do not use. They do basically respect it though. That understanding comes through the Indigenous American people that investigated them and their occultisms extensively.

    We have some very good and knowledgable men who Are Masons. Then we have some with an unconscious agenda that are taking advantage of the power which is historically held by the Order. They are exploiting the oaths of secrecy, confidentiality and brotherhood to destroy something the best Masons regard VERY highly. Something they created with the advice and guidance of the Indigenous Americans. Specifically the Six Nations Iroquois and more specifically the Seneca. The Constitution and efforts leading to it which go back to the Magna Carta.

    Of the loyalists some were Masons also. This caused a mixing or confusion of intents within the Order. That is resolving, with the understanding of the people.
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 05-07-2015 at 06:57 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher A. Brown View Post
    A) Test officials and candidates for acceptance of the root purpose of free speech being to assure information vital to unity needed to alter or abolish is shared and understood.
    And what happens if (when) they fail this test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And what happens if (when) they fail this test?
    If incumbent officials fail the test in this constitutional emergency they are impeached.

    Candidates who fail get no votes.

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    That's kind of a long post, but is the general gist of it, that it would be done through the mechanism of voting on it?

    If so, count me in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher A. Brown View Post
    If incumbent officials fail the test in this constitutional emergency they are impeached.

    Candidates who fail get no votes.
    Impeached?

    Impeached by their fellow officials who also failed the test?

    Candidates who are felons get votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Impeached?

    Impeached by their fellow officials who also failed the test?

    Candidates who are felons get votes.
    I think that officials in general are smarter than you, so will be disinclined to destroy their careers by failing to recognize obvious constitutional intent.

    Your disregard for the power of constitutional Intent is only equaled by your unaccountability.

    In the system You understand they get votes. In the system you do not understand they do not get votes. Return to top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher A. Brown View Post
    I think that officials in general are smarter than you, so will be disinclined to destroy their careers by failing to recognize obvious constitutional intent.

    Your disregard for the power of constitutional Intent is only equaled by your unaccountability.

    In the system You understand they get votes. In the system you do not understand they do not get votes. Return to top.
    The whole system is filled with "officials" who enhance their careers by disregarding the constitution.

    You fail to understand simple human nature.

    People vote for people that give them stuff.

    They care not a $#@! all about much else.

    So, after all this, you got nothing.

    You are attempting to secure justice and liberty using the same system that is dedicated to taking it away.

    Futility meeting hopelessness, head on.

    And you call the people that could secure liberty, dupes, and actors.

    You know what I think?

    I think you are the infiltrating agent, sent to confuse the issue and undermine what will work.

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