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    Why is this place called "LIBERTY" University?

    Highlights of Liberty University's Controlling and Fascist-like methods:

    The university also has an all-encompassing code of conduct, called €œThe Liberty Way, which governs what students can say, do, read, and watch both on and off campus €“ and sets out a regimen of reprimands and fines for violators.

    The First Amendment Doesn'€™t Apply at Liberty
    No R-Rated Movies, Un-Godly Music, or Immodest Posters at Liberty University
    No Dancing or Kissing at Liberty University
    Witchcraft and Abortion on Par with Sexual Assault and Felony Conviction at Liberty University
    Liberty University'€™s Guide to Female Modesty
    The Religious Right Nanny State, on View at Liberty University
    Welcome to Liberty University, Now Gives Us Your Blood and Urine Sample



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...y-Way-exposed#

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertyplz View Post
    Here is an article about the Stand with Rand people that were there:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...ey-use-yik-yak

    From one of the Stand with Rand students quoted in the article:

    I strongly object to Senator Cruz's choice of venue for the announcement of his 2016 presidential bid: as is well-known by Liberty University students but considerably less well-known by the general public, all students are required to attend convocation every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Sen. Cruz is a friend of the Liberty University administration and has spoken at convocation in the past. As such, he knows that all students are required to be in attendance. I bear no ill will toward Sen. Cruz, but his choice to announce his 2016 presidential bid at convocation at Liberty University is a starkly deceptive one. Should the general public be unaware that all students are required to attend convocation, it would seem to the average viewer (as this will be televised and is already being widely publicized) that 10,000 supporters came to Liberty University to hear Sen. Cruz's announcement. However, every student in attendance has no say in the matter. Students will either attend convocation and lend to the illusion of widespread support for Sen. Cruz, or they will be subject to administrative punishment--specifically, four reprimands and a $10 fine--if they are absent. While Sen. Cruz has every right to run for president and to announce his candidacy, it is a highly deceptive, albeit politically savvy, move on Sen. Cruz's part to make his big announcement here. I do not support this action, and I am not alone in my belief that such deception is wrong.
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    Hopefully, they are smart enough to wear those shirts to show unity with the Cruz supporters instead of open mocking. But college kids... Who knows?
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    This is how we should do it. Just rock tees at all the other candidates events LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philipped View Post
    This is how we should do it. Just rock tees at all the other candidates events LOL.
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACBA View Post
    Why is this place called "LIBERTY" University?

    Highlights of Liberty University's Controlling and Fascist-like methods:

    The university also has an all-encompassing code of conduct, called €œThe Liberty Way, which governs what students can say, do, read, and watch both on and off campus €“ and sets out a regimen of reprimands and fines for violators.

    The First Amendment Doesn'€™t Apply at Liberty
    No R-Rated Movies, Un-Godly Music, or Immodest Posters at Liberty University
    No Dancing or Kissing at Liberty University
    Witchcraft and Abortion on Par with Sexual Assault and Felony Conviction at Liberty University
    Liberty University'€™s Guide to Female Modesty
    The Religious Right Nanny State, on View at Liberty University
    Welcome to Liberty University, Now Gives Us Your Blood and Urine Sample



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...y-Way-exposed#

    Liberty university is one of the main purveyors of religious neoconservatism in America. That's why he went there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philipped View Post
    This is how we should do it. Just rock tees at all the other candidates events LOL.
    It has been done. Of course, the spin was not, 'These people are just trying to break through the Ron Paul media blackout,' but rather that we were rude.

    Dubya set up massive security at his rallies and anyone with a shirt that was in any way off message was not allowed in. Of course, given that this was a mandatory assembly at Liberty, that wasn't exactly possible here. But expect these things to happen elsewhere.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    These Students 'Stand with Rand' at Ted Cruz's 2016 Announcement
    The Texan's presidential announcement Monday had some party crashers.



    BY SHANE GOLDMACHER
    March 23, 2015

    LYNCHBURG, Va.—Sen. Ted Cruz took the stage to declare his presidential candidacy at Liberty University Monday, surrounded by upwards of 10,000 cheering students. They weren't all here by choice.

    Attendance at convocation at Liberty is mandatory, and a group of students clad in "Stand With Rand" shirts sat center stage—directly in view of the cameras—to log their displeasure with having to be here.

    "Of course, you want it to appear as if you have a large audience," said Eli McGowan, who organized the not-so-subtle protest. "We felt like if we didn't wear shirts showing our true political preference then the media might think we all supported Cruz."

    "They make you come. If you don't come, you get punished," said Ana Delgado, a sophomore, who said students face a $10 fine for not showing up at convocation. Delgado wasn't among those wearing Paul gear. She is undecided about who she'll support in 2016, but she didn't like being forced to be part of Cruz's announcement.

    ...
    read more:
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/2016-...-cruz-20150323

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    Lol, Cruz knew he wouldn't be able to attract an impressive crowd so he announces at a mandatory student event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACBA View Post

    The First Amendment Doesn'€™t Apply at Liberty
    No R-Rated Movies, Un-Godly Music, or Immodest Posters at Liberty University
    No Dancing or Kissing at Liberty University
    Witchcraft and Abortion on Par with Sexual Assault and Felony Conviction at Liberty University
    Liberty University'€™s Guide to Female Modesty
    The Religious Right Nanny State, on View at Liberty University
    Welcome to Liberty University, Now Gives Us Your Blood and Urine Sample



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...y-Way-exposed#
    Won't be surprised to find out Cruz agrees with all of these. He is a socon, Johnny-come-lately tea party guy who is a neocon overseas.

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    Rand Paul Supporters Crash Cruz 2016 Announcement

    LYNCHBURG, Va.—Sen. Ted Cruz took the stage to declare his presidential candidacy at Liberty University Monday, surrounded by upwards of 10,000 cheering students. They weren't all here by choice.
    Attendance at convocation at Liberty is mandatory, and a group of students clad in "Stand With Rand" shirts sat center stage—directly in view of the cameras—to log their displeasure with having to be here.
    ht tp://www.nationaljournal.com/2016-elections/students-stand-with-rand-cruz-20150323

    So the 9 Rand supporters were the only individuals who were there voluntarily, and the rest were forced to go support Cruz 2016. Yeah that about sums up Ted Cruz I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACBA View Post
    Why is this place called "LIBERTY" University?

    Highlights of Liberty University's Controlling and Fascist-like methods:

    The university also has an all-encompassing code of conduct, called €œThe Liberty Way, which governs what students can say, do, read, and watch both on and off campus €“ and sets out a regimen of reprimands and fines for violators.

    The First Amendment Doesn'€™t Apply at Liberty
    No R-Rated Movies, Un-Godly Music, or Immodest Posters at Liberty University
    No Dancing or Kissing at Liberty University
    Witchcraft and Abortion on Par with Sexual Assault and Felony Conviction at Liberty University
    Liberty University'€™s Guide to Female Modesty
    The Religious Right Nanny State, on View at Liberty University
    Welcome to Liberty University, Now Gives Us Your Blood and Urine Sample



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...y-Way-exposed#
    The first amendment doesn't apply to any private institution. I have no problem with them having strict rules like that.. Those students chose to go there so it's not like they had a gun to their head.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    Lol, Cruz knew he wouldn't be able to attract an impressive crowd so he announces at a mandatory student event.
    And so what if he agrees with those rules? As long as he isn't advocating for those rules to be applied to society forcefully, who gives a $#@! what he or any other politician thinks?

    And no.. Ted Cruz would not advocate a society in which R-rated movies or kissing is banned. Let's not be idiotic here.

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    Jack Hunter's report, posted at rare:

    http://rare.us/story/paul-fans-stand...ncement-rally/
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    Quote Originally Posted by serenityrick View Post
    And so what if he agrees with those rules? As long as he isn't advocating for those rules to be applied to society forcefully, who gives a $#@! what he or any other politician thinks?

    And no.. Ted Cruz would not advocate a society in which R-rated movies or kissing is banned. Let's not be idiotic here.
    Sure, but let's also be real. Ted Cruz is an opportunist who knows he has no real shot at the nomination, but rather his main objective is to fool as many people possible into supporting him over Rand in order to hand Jeb Bush n company the nomination.

    Also the blaze network ie Glen Beck is already shilling as hard as they can saying on his show this morning among many other absurd things that obviously apply to Rand that it's Cruz, not Rand that is drawing all the independent support and that's what it's going to take to win the general election. Wow Glen really??? Even though Rand draws the most support among independents while Cruz draws very little, close to the bottom actually, he then goes on a tirade of how others are dishonest and not telling the truth. To the uninformed this all sounds great but to someone like myself that knows better find these deception tactics despicable and gutless. It also honestly goes against everything the man supposedly stands for. Using and invoking God as a means to hoodwink people to vote for you has always been something i simply cannot stomach.. God bless you all but most of all SEND YOUR MONEY... The man is a fraud and those that support him and know the truth are equally frauds, period!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Hopefully, they are smart enough to wear those shirts to show unity with the Cruz supporters instead of open mocking. But college kids... Who knows?
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Hopefully, they are smart enough to wear those shirts to show unity with the Cruz supporters instead of open mocking. But college kids... Who knows?
    They just wore the shirts. Didn't interrupt the speech or cause any sort of scene. Attendance was mandatory for students, so they just showed their non-support of Cruz in a non-disruptive not disrespectful way.

    I think it was funny.

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    3.5-1 male to female ratio... Looks like the female outreach is working!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Hopefully, they are smart enough to wear those shirts to show unity with the Cruz supporters instead of open mocking. But college kids... Who knows?
    They were forced to be in attendance for his announcement so no, I hope those students were standing in opposition to Cruz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich34 View Post
    Also the blaze network ie Glen Beck is already shilling as hard as they can saying on his show this morning among many other absurd things that obviously apply to Rand that it's Cruz, not Rand that is drawing all the independent support and that's what it's going to take to win the general election. Wow Glen really??? Even though Rand draws the most support among independents while Cruz draws very little, close to the bottom actually, he then goes on a tirade of how others are dishonest and not telling the truth.
    This is what we're up against, folks, and the starting gun has sounded.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NACBA View Post
    Why is this place called "LIBERTY" University?

    Highlights of Liberty University's Controlling and Fascist-like methods:

    The university also has an all-encompassing code of conduct, called €œThe Liberty Way, which governs what students can say, do, read, and watch both on and off campus €“ and sets out a regimen of reprimands and fines for violators.

    The First Amendment Doesn'€™t Apply at Liberty
    No R-Rated Movies, Un-Godly Music, or Immodest Posters at Liberty University
    No Dancing or Kissing at Liberty University
    Witchcraft and Abortion on Par with Sexual Assault and Felony Conviction at Liberty University
    Liberty University'€™s Guide to Female Modesty
    The Religious Right Nanny State, on View at Liberty University
    Welcome to Liberty University, Now Gives Us Your Blood and Urine Sample



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...y-Way-exposed#
    Private institutions are perfectly within their rights to lay down codes of conduct for people who want to be a part of those institutions, on penalty of the severance of their membership. Mind you, some of those rules do seem unreasonable to me (no R-rated movies, no dancing, no kissing?), but they are perfectly compatible with liberty so long as they are part of an entirely voluntary agreement which the students accept when joining the university.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    3.5-1 male to female ratio... Looks like the female outreach is working!
    Nonconformist political ideologies in general, with the exception of specifically female-oriented ones like radical feminism, are primarily the province of males.

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    How funny is that these kids have to attend an assembly? What is Liberty University? An elementary school? I couldn't even imagine being in college and being forced to at attend something like this. It is pretty Orwellian that the most anti-liberty school on the planet is called Liberty University.

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    Wait a minute... so if you attend Liberty University there is mandatory attence at political rallies for people you don't support?

    Is this the Onion? North Korea? Twilight Zone?

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    Rand Paul Supporters at Cruz’s Announcement: Nice Guy, but ‘Too Much of a War Hawk’

    by Andrew Desiderio
    5:27 pm, March 23rd, 2015

    Earlier today, Mediaite noticed a trove of Rand Paul supporters who were sporting “Stand with Rand” t-shirts at Ted Cruz‘s announcement that he was entering the 2016 presidential race. After Cruz’s speech, CNN reporter Jeff Zeleny caught up with those Liberty University students, who were forced to be in attendance for the speech.

    According to them, they were being used as “props,” and they weren’t happy about it.

    “He’s a Christian man, he’s definitely a nice guy,” one student said. “It’s just that, from my personal beliefs, he’s a little bit too much of a war hawk.”

    Watch the video below, via CNN:

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/rand-...of-a-war-hawk/

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    can someone please tell me how ted cruz can even run? Wasn't he born in canada? ooo so comical spreading the ben swann story on fb about shirts.
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