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    Homosexuality

    P4P asks Theocrat this:


    By the way, do you still believe in executing homosexuals that don't repent or are you still of that belief?
    Leviticus 20:13 seems to think that homosexual actions are so repulsive that they deserve such. Why shouldn't homosexuality be a capital crime?

    For consideration:

    http://bojidarmarinov.com/blog/its-t...-about-sodomy/



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    This thread is destined for a horrible fate...
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    Yeah, see, this is why I worship the sun. It doesn't punish. It doesn't reward. It doesn't judge at all. It just is. You know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Yeah, see, this is why I worship the sun. It doesn't punish. It doesn't reward. It doesn't judge at all. It just is. You know?
    Try to land on it and see what happens.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    P4P asks Theocrat this:



    Leviticus 20:13 seems to think that homosexual actions are so repulsive that they deserve such. Why shouldn't homosexuality be a capital crime?

    For consideration:

    http://bojidarmarinov.com/blog/its-t...-about-sodomy/
    You can change the name but your still trying to be someone you aren't, and I didn't go to the link.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Yeah, see, this is why I worship the sun. It doesn't punish. It doesn't reward. It doesn't judge at all. It just is. You know?
    MELANOMA, bitches.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Yeah, see, this is why I worship the sun. It doesn't punish. It doesn't reward. It doesn't judge at all. It just is. You know?
    You're thinking of The Great Electron. The sun is a Red Giant. Like all Red Giants, it doesn't just "exist"-it continues expanding until it eventually burns out. If you're around in a a bunch of billions of years, you will get mighty toasty.
    Last edited by heavenlyboy34; 03-22-2015 at 08:50 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12



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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    You're thinking of The Great Electron.
    The Big Electron. Sheesh. But I'm serious, though, dammit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Yeah, see, this is why I worship the sun. It doesn't punish. It doesn't reward. It doesn't judge at all. It just is. You know?
    The sun gives life to the planet earth. And God gives life to all the suns of heaven and all the sons of earth.
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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Try to land on it and see what happens.
    This! The sun is a molten ball of energy. And it is God Who is the source of this energy.

    The sun is created. God is uncreated, and eternal.

    This sun will die away, and God will reign forever.
    +
    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Kindling Old Flames

    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    P4P asks Theocrat this:



    Leviticus 20:13 seems to think that homosexual actions are so repulsive that they deserve such. Why shouldn't homosexuality be a capital crime?

    For consideration:

    http://bojidarmarinov.com/blog/its-t...-about-sodomy/
    Yeah, phill4paul just wanted to start another controversy in a thread that it didn't need to occur in. Besides, he has no objective, ethical basis to judge my answer as immoral or evil, given his atheist worldview (assuming that he is still an atheist).
    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

    "May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the Establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    This! The sun is a molten ball of energy. And it is God Who is the source of this energy.

    The sun is created. God is uncreated, and eternal.

    This sun will die away, and God will reign forever.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    P4P asks Theocrat this:



    Leviticus 20:13 seems to think that homosexual actions are so repulsive that they deserve such. Why shouldn't homosexuality be a capital crime?

    For consideration:

    http://bojidarmarinov.com/blog/its-t...-about-sodomy/
    Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)

    7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

    2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

    3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    There is no spoon.

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    Consenting actions between 2 humans is never anyone's business to judge and is certainly not criminal behavior when there's no victim or harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctiger2 View Post
    Consenting actions between 2 humans is never anyone's business to judge and is certainly not criminal behavior when there's no victim or harm.
    That's right, it's between them and their creator when they meet Him. Some folks do try to warn them about what is written though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    Yeah, phill4paul just wanted to start another controversy in a thread that it didn't need to occur in. Besides, he has no objective, ethical basis to judge my answer as immoral or evil, given his atheist worldview (assuming that he is still an atheist).
    I'm just curious where the "unless they repent" part comes from

    Also, I'm not trying to hide who I am. I used to post under a different name. So what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    I'm just curious where the "unless they repent" part comes from
    It comes from the teachings of Jesus Christ.
    +
    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    Yeah, phill4paul just wanted to start another controversy in a thread that it didn't need to occur in. Besides, he has no objective, ethical basis to judge my answer as immoral or evil, given his atheist worldview (assuming that he is still an atheist).
    Just reminding others and newcomers that your objective, ethical basis includes putting consenting adults to death unless they repent and quit sinning. Others can judge it immoral or evil as they may.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    Yeah, phill4paul just wanted to start another controversy in a thread that it didn't need to occur in. Besides, he has no objective, ethical basis to judge my answer as immoral or evil, given his atheist worldview (assuming that he is still an atheist).
    I'm just curious where the "unless they repent" part comes from

    Also, I'm not trying to hide who I am. I used to post under a different name. So what?
    Was there some kind of code in Theo's post that I'm missing? Because if that was actually a response to that post, I'm completely lost.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Not to sound like a ***** or nothin, but if the bible says not to do it, it's probably pretty fun
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Was there some kind of code in Theo's post that I'm missing? Because if that was actually a response to that post, I'm completely lost.
    No, FF is starting up with Theo because Sola got banned and now another has to take up the witness as forum jerk.
    +
    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    No, FF is starting up with Theo because Sola got banned and now another has to take up the witness as forum jerk.
    Well tell the protege psychotic Protestant that there's a less confusing way to get his attention than quoting a completely unrelated post, to wit:

    HEY THEO!

    Or better still, tell him this...

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    Or better still, tell him this...

    Repless for Thumper...

    Need a lil' help please.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    That's right, it's between them and their creator when they meet Him. Some folks do try to warn them about what is written though.
    Best answer.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dr.3D again.

    Implementing OT capital punishment for moral crimes is insane. And those who seek to do this are provably inconsistent seeking to punish what was not mentioned in the OT (statutory rape and child porn) while trying to circumvent what was explicitly mentioned (stoning for Sabbath breaking and women wearing men's clothes). And all of this based on a system were two people could easily conspire to lie about a third.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    No, FF is starting up with Theo because Sola got banned and now another has to take up the witness as forum jerk.
    Sola got banned again? I wasn't on yesterday. It seems whenever I'm not around he gets banned.

    Edit: Just checked the profile. He's not banned. Did he get banned and unbanned in a day? Glad I missed the drama.
    Last edited by jmdrake; 03-23-2015 at 07:29 AM.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    It comes from the teachings of Jesus Christ.
    Don't misunderstand me, I don't deny the importance of repentance. Any man can be repent and be saved. And its a glorious thing when that happens, regardless of whether his sin is homosexual contact or even murder.

    That said, I don't see anywhere in the Bible that says repentance should mitigate civil penalties. Maybe that is somewhere, but I'm not familiar with it. So, if you repent of a capital crime, whether homosexual contact or murder, you should pay the price in this life, according to the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    Don't misunderstand me, I don't deny the importance of repentance. Any man can be repent and be saved. And its a glorious thing when that happens, regardless of whether his sin is homosexual contact or even murder.

    That said, I don't see anywhere in the Bible that says repentance should mitigate civil penalties. Maybe that is somewhere, but I'm not familiar with it. So, if you repent of a capital crime, whether homosexual contact or murder, you should pay the price in this life, according to the Bible.
    And the reason Jesus didn't stone the woman caught in adultery was....? And don't give me that crap that they didn't bring the man. Jesus knew who the man was and could have called him out and demanded he be stoned too. "The law of liberty has made me free from the law of sin and death."
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Liberty View Post
    Don't misunderstand me, I don't deny the importance of repentance. Any man can be repent and be saved. And its a glorious thing when that happens, regardless of whether his sin is homosexual contact or even murder.

    That said, I don't see anywhere in the Bible that says repentance should mitigate civil penalties. Maybe that is somewhere, but I'm not familiar with it. So, if you repent of a capital crime, whether homosexual contact or murder, you should pay the price in this life, according to the Bible.
    And the reason Jesus didn't stone the woman caught in adultery was....? And don't give me that crap that they didn't bring the man. Jesus knew who the man was and could have called him out and demanded he be stoned too. "The law of liberty has made me free from the law of sin and death."
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    No, FF is starting up with Theo because Sola got banned and now another has to take up the witness as forum jerk.
    Actually I expect when SF gets back on and reads this thread he will take on both Theo and CL because he (rightly IMO) finds theonomy to be unbiblical.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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