Wow, now I'm "slandering" the good doctor. I'm the one with his face all over my Corvette and drove to many events with it to promote the ideas of liberty. You obviously never read the stuff I've posted or at least you failed to understand it...Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty
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What do you expect to happen when you have a thread title claiming Ron Paul is a racist? Did you think the headlines the media did about "Ron Paul's racist newsletters" were a positive thing for us?
You do post good stuff, you make good points. Your corvette is awesome. But if you had a thread title I calling me a racist I would want it changed. Regardless of how good your point is. I hate political correctness as much as anyone. But surely you can at least understand why they changed the headline.
Your complaint was about political correctness and accusations of racism. You were not quoting Ron, so what is the purpose of using his name? Would Ron like that headline?
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That particular conversation was about a certain attempted hijacker, not you.
Oops... so sorry...
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The title was a direct answer to another title that was (if my memory is not failing me) "Ron Paul a "Racist"? ... That thread was under the Ron Paul sub forum and I put this thread there as a direct answer to that claim. BECAUSE my thread was then moved to "the vent" where no one but members can view and no one bothers to read AND THEN the thread title was changed it's no wonder no one knows what's going on here. There was a very GOOD POINT to the thread and the title originally. Now it's completely pointless to even bother to take the energy to type a response here...
Edit: I just checked and the title of that thread has NOT been changed. Why does one title change and one title doesn't?
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Oh. I misunderstood you as well.
The idea that race does not exist because it cannot be precisely defined (in a non-arbitrary way) is absurd.
Consider:
"Strong people tend to be better at wrestling than weak people."
"Tall people tend to be better at basketball than short people."
"Smart people tend to have higher incomes than dumb people."
"Poor people tend to have higher rates of crime than rich people."
The properties "strong, tall, smart, and poor" cannot be defined precisely in a non-arbitrary way because, just like race, they exist on a spectrum. You have to either leave it loosely defined or arbitrarily pick some point on that spectrum. Does it therefore follow that all of these statements are meaningless? Of course not. Race can be meaningfully defined, and it has been for the purpose of various comparative studies, and these have in fact found significant non-cosmetic differences.
If non-cosmetic differences between the races are the product of genetics (just as are cosmetic differences), what's the theory to explain this? As some posters here have repeatedly pointed out, skin color itself doesn't seem likely to have an effect on behavior, intelligence, etc. The theory would, presumably, be that there is some (yet undiscovered) gene(s) which people with skin color X are more likely to have than people with skin color Y. It's not that there's any causal connection between skin color and behavior themselves.
People on planet A and B might, over the millennia, develop a variety of genetic differences due to different selection pressures in their respective habitats (both natural and social). Some of these might be visible - height, skin color, etc. Others might be invisible - resistance to some disease, intelligence, tendency for violence, etc. These visible and invisible traits are correlated, not because of any causal relation between them, but because the selection pressures which generate both traits happened (by historical accident) to coexist on the same planet - and thus the inhabitants get both traits, and tend to pass them along to their descendents, even though the traits in themselves have nothing to do with one another.
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Sorry, but if I am driving a taxi in a sketchy part of town late at night, I am going to pass by Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin and their homies. Yeppers I am sterotyping the saggy pants ans sullen faces as thuggish and quite possibly dangerous. Call it racism and claim it is ignorant and hurtful. I don't care. Getting home at the end of the shift is much more important.
I agree, being so afraid of the word racist means you allow liberals to cry boogey man with their stupid power word. I don't embrace the term and I won't accuse Ron Paul of being a racist, but I don't think being a racist is per se so bad that I must deny it like other things (such as being a criminal or homosexual)
Its easy if you think all the white people came from Japeth and all the black people came from Shem and all the Arabs came from Ham.
And that Ham was genetically pre-disposed to be a conniving, and Shem (or his wife) was just genetically flawed all around.
Modern biology says that sort of process would have a massive founder effect and potentially ruin some of the genetic diaspora.
This is outside of the people who pay attention to certain races breeding with demons. The tinfoil of the Christian tradition.
It is used to justify the genocides of Israel, culling populations including babies, down to the live stock, with God punishing Israel if they showed any mercy and failed to make sure the genocides were thorough.
Ethnic cleansing is right there in the Bible with plenty of racial justification to go with it.
This is part of why Christians are so screwed up on Israel. Half of the theology says Israel needs to be persecuted and threatened with Extinction so that Jesus comes back, and the other half of the theology gives them a free pass on ethnically cleansing the spawn of the devil. A.k.a. their Arab Neighbours.
Not the Bible states that all Arabs are descended from a bastard, except for those descended from the Moabites who are the children of incest.
Yeah equality all around.
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Why even bother to embrace a false claim label?
Because if the majority of people embrace the term it loses it's power. As long as "racist" is considered filthy then they can use that term to modify behavior and thought. From now on if someone claims I'm a "racist" I'm going to agree and then expound on the FACT that everyone (or nearly everyone) is. The whole definition is so screwed up that everyone fits in some definition of the word anyway.Why even bother to embrace a false claim label?
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Good luck with that one, Sisyphus.
I applaud your resolve and recalling your background, you may make more headway than others would. Let us know how it goes with those less friendly than you find here.
I get where you're coming from but, practically speaking, that's not going to work.
It's okay, I'm taking it back!
In New Zealand:
The Coastguard is a Charity
Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
The DMV is a private non-profit
Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
A tax return has 4 fields
Business licenses aren't a thing
Prostitution is legal
We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care
Which definition of Racist is being used here? as there are various definitions that differ slightly.
If you are using the definition that asserts the superiority of certain races, then I am a racist. If however your definition involves a hatred of certain groups, that is where I depart. One can believe in the superiority of a race without succumbing to hatred (though I wouldn't assert that I have never had a hateful thought, everyone has).
Nevertheless, I reject the term due to the negative connotation it has acquired.
Superior in what way? In every way? Is the best of an 'inferior race' inferior to the worst of a 'superior race'?
Do you think discrimination should be codified into law, as long as it isn't done out of hatred? Or should laws only apply to individuals?
And what about this? Did you come here and announce out of the blue that you're racist to make us look like we agree with you? Is that why you won't answer questions designed to let everyone see if you're even a libertarian?
Where is this hostility coming from?
As to your question, certain groups are superior and inferior in certain ways; to determine overall superiority you have to assign prominence to specific attributes. For me those attributes are the ability to build good civilizations/societies.
And I haven't given much thought as to how legislation should come into play here; such is beyond my thinking capabilities at the moment.
An illustration of my first point: Italians are superior cooks as compared to the English, but English civilization is superior to Italian. To determine overall superiority one must decide which attribute trumps the other.
Yes, my point from the beginning is that if you admit to differences in the "races" (as explained earlier that term itself if flawed because we are all from the human race) then people claim you are a "racist". This is what I'm embracing. I've never promoted hatred between the "races" but to claim there are no differences is simply nonsense...
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Can your STATISTics tell you anything about a random individual of any given race?
Yes, God just made some types of humans better than others.
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The Coastguard is a Charity
Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
The DMV is a private non-profit
Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
A tax return has 4 fields
Business licenses aren't a thing
Prostitution is legal
We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care
Then why do so many Christians believe that Jews are the chosen people?
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It depends upon what you believe is better; opinions vary. But, to deny there are differences seems rather ignorant.
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Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
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Well you can't have it both ways.
In New Zealand:
The Coastguard is a Charity
Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
The DMV is a private non-profit
Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
A tax return has 4 fields
Business licenses aren't a thing
Prostitution is legal
We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care
Have what both ways?
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Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
Depends on which brand of Christianity you are talking about. Now days most who identify themselves as Christians are racist as $#@! and don't give a $#@! about the real meaning behind Christianity. They just want to kill brown people.
Dishonest money makes for dishonest people.
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NOBP ≠ ABODr. Paul is living rent-free in the minds of the neocons, and for a fiscal conservative, free rent is always a good thing
Humans are biologically equal in value or they are not.
Maybe humans being equal is a small lie we tell ourselves, but its one we didn't for a long time with really catastrophic consequences.
As soon as some people start becoming more equal than others society goes sideways.
Now a good chunk of the population thought maybe this was a good idea, around the beginning of the last century, that perhaps we should let it go sideways, embrace natural law and let the less simply be less equal.
The construct of God or nature create men to be equals, is a huge peg holding men equal before the law, and before each other. One should think long and hard about pulling that peg out in the name of ideological purity.
In New Zealand:
The Coastguard is a Charity
Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
The DMV is a private non-profit
Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
A tax return has 4 fields
Business licenses aren't a thing
Prostitution is legal
We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care
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