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Thread: Ben Carson: Being Gay Is A Choice Because Of Prison Sex [VIDEO]

  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by andym View Post
    A lesbian told me that her decision to be lesbian definitely WAS a choice. Her own words, she "chose to be a lesbian" (she used these exact words).
    Does she work for CNN?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...dd2_story.html
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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  3. #122
    Really this whole argument is stupid. There are a whole host of behaviors that people argue may or may not involve choice. Alcoholism, pedophilia, kleptomania, whatever. Proving choice or no choice has little bearing with how society chooses to deal with these issues.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Millennial Conservatarian View Post
    Eh. I don't know if it's genetic or not, but it's certainly not a "choice". I believe some may be genetically/inherently more prone to it than others, while other external factors such as the nature of one's upbringing and social experiences can also have an impact. I also believe some are prone to it (more than you'd think) but don't have an event that makes them realize it until a certain point, if at all... But to say it's just a behavioral decision is ridiculous and couldn't be farther from the truth. Nobody chooses who they're attracted to. It just is what it is.
    I absolutely choose who I'm attracted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    In related news:

    Ben Carson 'Makes Big Impression' at Sharpton's NAN Convention
    Breitbart News-9 hours ago
    Interesting. Thanks for posting.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  7. #126
    Lol at retards thinking its a choice.

    I grew up with a kid and from age four it was clear he was different. At the time I just knew he was different but I didnt grasped the concept of gay yet off course. You're telling me he mad that choice before the age of four? FFS. You're retarded then, just like mr carson.

  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by KurtBoyer25L View Post
    I absolutely choose who I'm attracted to.
    Choose a guy next time then. I'll give you a hundred dollars if you'll $#@! a guy. Anyone else chipping in?

  9. #128
    Oh yeah snakes eat their own tails when in captivity, so straight guys drilling other guys doesnt really surprise me.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ_JEhtT_x8



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  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by fatjohn View Post
    Choose a guy next time then. I'll give you a hundred dollars if you'll $#@! a guy. Anyone else chipping in?
    No.
    "The Patriarch"

  13. #131
    i assume most in here have watched porn of some kind. If you're a guy and you look at a guys dick, that makes you gay.

    end thread/

  14. #132
    Isn't it amusing that only those identities which the mandarins of political correctness have declared "protected minorities" have genetic origins.

    ...because if they have genetic origins, our concept responsibility makes them irresponsible for their actions.

    So, for instance, homosexuals are genetically homosexual - and to accept this entirely unproven fact makes one enlightened.

    Whereas, to suggest genetic causes for poverty or stupidity or violence makes one a NAZI.

    Funny how that works, eh?

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Isn't it amusing that only those identities which the mandarins of political correctness have declared "protected minorities" have genetic origins.

    ...because if they have genetic origins, our concept responsibility makes them irresponsible for their actions.

    So, for instance, homosexuals are genetically homosexual - and to accept this entirely unproven fact makes one enlightened.

    Whereas, to suggest genetic causes for poverty or stupidity or violence makes one a NAZI.

    Funny how that works, eh?
    Whether or not it is "genetic" is irrelevant. The relevant point is that a person's sexual orientation is generally something that individuals experience rather than control. Acknowledging this does not make one enlightened, it merely indicates that you are using common sense.
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  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    Whether or not it is "genetic" is irrelevant.
    Have to disagree my friend.

    It's no coincidence that approved behavior is believed to be genetically determined while unapproved behavior is believed to be environmental.

    There is an implicit ethics to it; environmentally determined = responsible (guilty); genetically determined = irresponsible (innocent)

    The relevant point is that a person's sexual orientation is generally something that individuals experience rather than control. Acknowledging this does not make one enlightened, it merely indicates that you are using common sense.
    I don't actually disagree, my objection is to the hypocrisy.

  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Have to disagree my friend.

    It's no coincidence that approved behavior is believed to be genetically determined while unapproved behavior is believed to be environmental.

    There is an implicit ethics to it; environmentally determined = responsible (guilty); genetically determined = irresponsible (innocent)

    I don't actually disagree, my objection is to the hypocrisy.
    I don't think environmentally determined necessarily implies guilt or responsibility. If someone were molested as a child and this environmental factor somehow influenced their sexual orientation, that doesn't make them responsible for it.
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  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    i assume most in here have watched porn of some kind. If you're a guy and you look at a guys dick, that makes you gay.

    end thread/
    Guys have been looking at other guy's dicks for many centuries. I doubt there's any correlation between that and getting teh ghey. i.e. Michelangelo:

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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    I don't think environmentally determined necessarily implies guilt or responsibility. If someone were molested as a child and this environmental factor somehow influenced their sexual orientation, that doesn't make them responsible for it.
    I do believe we're talking past one another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    Damn, I thought he would be a good VP prospect but no more.
    Ben Carson's presidential campaign faces turmoil after staff exits and super PAC chaos

    June 6, 2015
    By ROBERT COSTA and PHILIP RUCKER / The Washington Post

    The presidential bid of Ben Carson, a tea party star who has catapulted into the top tier of Republican contenders, has been rocked by turmoil with the departures of four senior campaign officials and widespread disarray among his allied super PACs.

    Carson’s associates described a political network in tumult in interviews Friday, saying the retired neurosurgeon’s campaign chairman, national finance chairman, deputy campaign manager and general counsel have all resigned since Carson formally launched his bid last month in Detroit. They have not been replaced, campaign officials said.

    The moves gutted the core of Carson’s apparatus and left the 63-year-old first-time candidate with only a handful of experienced aides at his side as he navigates the fluid, crowded and high-stakes contest for the Republican nomination.

    Carson is a hot commodity on the right-wing speaking circuit and has fast become a leading candidate, winning straw votes at conservative gatherings and rising in public polls.

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/c...ign-giles.html

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  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    i assume most in here have watched porn of some kind. If you're a guy and you look at a guys dick, that makes you gay.

    end thread/
    I'll mention that to my urologist the next time I see him.

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  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Bad analogy, cannibals are a subset of omnivores, whereas homosexuals are not a subset of heterosexuals.

    Carson's argument is easily defended: if homosexuality is genetic then the incidence thereof should not change according to circumstances. However, since we know that it does - thanks to observed prison behavior - homosexuality cannot be solely genetic (and may not be genetic at all), so there must be other, non-genetic factors involved, factors which must necessarily include an element of human choice.
    No it can't. The standard in which he basis his argument is not universally applicable.
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  31. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    It's interesting that there are straight people who get all bent out o shape butt hurt over even the hint of a suggestion that being gay might be a choice when there are gay people who revel in the "fact" that it is a choice.
    That's bull$#@!. It's the "gay community" that are dead set on making gay not a choice. "Do you think I chose to be gay? hurr durr durr"
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    That's bull$#@!. It's the "gay community" that are dead set on making gay not a choice. "Do you think I chose to be gay? hurr durr durr"
    That's the way it mostly is today, but back in the 70s and 80s when the whole ***** thing first started picking up steam in the public eye, said community didn't like the "gay is genetic" argument because it sounded like a defect, and they thought it was simply a beautiful thing that people choose to do. There have been some decent articles on Taki's Magazine talking about this topic, here's one of them:

    http://takimag.com/article/homosexua..._with_it/print

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