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    The official "Stand with Rand" moneybomb thread is here! April 7th!

    The grassroots in conjunction with Rand's team will be hosting an April 7th "Stand with Rand" moneybomb in support of Rand Paul and his upcoming campaign.


    The Goal - We will aim to raise as much money for Rand Paul as possible on April 7th to send a message to the establishment that we are ready for real change in Washington and to help Rand finance his campaign.


    What to Do - to help, you can do the following:
    1) Donate to Rand Paul on 4/7. Budget, save and plan accordingly.
    2) Promote the event to get other Rand Paul supporters to do the same.

    All donations will be made at the official Rand Paul campaign site:
    https://www.randpaulvictory.com/donation/


    Promotional Tools - the following can help you promote the event:

    Official Rand Paul Victory Committee MoneyBomb Pledge page:
    https://www.randpaulvictory.com/pledge/?sr=rpf_mb1

    Facebook event - attend this event, invite others too:
    https://www.facebook.com/events/918739794836994/

    Rand Paul moneybomb Facebook page - like this page to keep up with future moneybomb events:
    https://www.facebook.com/RandPaulMoneybombCentral

    Twitter - Retweet this:


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    Credit - Credit to Sentinelrv, Uriah and Warlord in getting things rolling. Credit will go to you for helping make the event successful, and it takes everyone to make it so.


    Event Updates - This post will be updated to reflect the event efforts and status. Post here for any updates or suggestions.


    New? Have questions? If you are new to the moneybomb / promotional concepts and have questions please post here!



    Note- the original Facebook event created on 2/19 has been replaced with this new one.
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    Now that is what you call advanced notice, thanks. Hopefully can give a bit and that it turns out promising. Going up against Bush's deep pockets is never going to be simple, though.

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    I have included a plug for the money bomb in both the description and annotations.

    (This is the new version.)
    Last edited by IndianaPolitico; 03-04-2015 at 02:07 PM.

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    So, donations will go to his Senate campaign? I know he has RandPAC as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
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    Great video! I really like the time sequencing.

    I saw in the other thread you were updating for a fix, I look forward to the final version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    So, donations will go to his Senate campaign? I know he has RandPAC as well.
    Good question, one can certainly do that but his 2016 page should reflect his candidacy which is subject to change... and may on 4/7 as speculated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Great video! I really like the time sequencing.

    I saw in the other thread you were updating for a fix, I look forward to the final version.
    Fixed. I had put a caption of '2009' on a clip, when it should have been '2010'. Here is a direct link as well; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCs1...ature=youtu.be

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    This is a great idea! thanks Bryan



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    Question Uspio sam naći i preinačiti stari tekst s kompa

    Get proper mail adress for „official“ money-bomb communications:
    moneybomb@google.com NO
    moneybomb@moneybomb.com YES
    moneybomb@rpf.com YES

    This was my suggestion during Ron Paul campaign (and I still think it should be done):

    It would be wise if RonPaulForums.com had admin/moderator exclusively for activism/money-bombs. His job would be to provide assistance to activists and manage money-bombs. If he leaves all material would be kept as RPF.com property and be given to new admin. This way data and infrastructure would not be lost and could be used for next money-bomb. During first one you get professional video editing software, for second you get mass mailing software, for third professional social media management software etc. After every money-bomb RPF.com would gather more emails, more collaborators, more software etc. When RandPaul2016 comes RPF.com could have well organized team, infrastructure, millions of contact emails, software, social media pages. You will be well known among reporters and other relevant actors. That will give you better probability that they will publish your press releases, opinions, letters to the editor and participate in your money-bombs.
    If this is to be done first RPF.com should be searched for useful info (emails, facebook groups etc.) like:
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?353274-No-One-But-Paul-Money-Bomb-Planning-amp-Promotion-Goal-20-000-Facebook-Event-Pledges!&p=4064215&viewfull=1#post4064215
    Work on money bomb should start right now. Roughly (really really roughly):

    Work Package 0: Team recruitment
    0.1. Spokesperson (someone like Glen Bradley... Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more?) for money-bomb; person that will be interviewed, sending press releases…
    0.2. Lord Writer (standardized letters to the editor, press releases, news articles that people can send to their local media/blogs, radio, TV, newspapers)
    0.3. Dude Designer- pictures, banners, avatars, gifs, collecting providing material for other graphic artists
    0.4. Master Video-maker- videos, collecting providing material for other video-makers
    0.5. Head Programer- Black This Out money-bomb had script that would black out people eyes on their profiles. Maybe it would be possible that someone makes a script/program that would change background of Facebook profile with money-bomb picture.
    One software that would change background picture of profiles would be nice. That way it could be reused for every new money-bomb.
    0.6. Web page Warlock – creation and management of web page
    0.7. Marketing Dictator- creation of accounts, marketing, promotion…persuading and blackmailing people to promote money-bomb… and providing support yada yada yada

    WP 1: Collecting and building contact information database
    1.1. of every media (TV,radio, amateur, radio, newspaper, blogs,web portals, TV shows, radio shows, every reporter...) in the USA.
    1.2. every liberty friendly entity (YAL, C4L, Tea Party groups, pro Paul websites, blogs, meetups, Facebook groups- any possible outlet)
    1.3. potential donors/ interested individuals

    WP 2: Creating content
    2.1. Writing, drafting and editing emails, articles, short comments, opinions and letters to the editor graphic, widgets, banners, avatars, flyers.
    2.2. Creating pictures, graphics, widgets, banners, avatars, flyers... That can replace all twitter, Facebook etc. profile pictures, avatars, backgrounds, time-walls etc.
    2.3. Videos; memes; software that automatically blacks out people eyes, puts constitution/we the people/money-bomb color in their profile background*...other.


    WP 3:MARKETING *
    3.1. Creating webpage- ASKING CANDIDATE TO MAKE ADDITION TO HIS OWN WEB PAGE WITH A TICKER IS PREFERABLE-**
    3.2.Creating and managing social media accounts, groups, pages, blogs and profiles (twitter, meetups, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, Reddit, YouTube, blogs -create one master account on all social media and all web pages for all money-bombs. Person in charge would keep all data (contact info, pictures, scripts, web pages, domains) and use it for next money-bomb and build upon.
    3.3. Managing accounts posting material created in WP 2.1. http://marketmesuite.com/
    3.4. Content created in WP 2. is available for everyone to use and disseminate.***

    * At least 70% OF THE RESOURCES, MANPOWER AND TIME should be spent on marketing. Having web page, banners etc. is great but it is useless if no one uses it or knows about it.

    **
    More cost effective way, removes suspicion and questions if this is some fraud (happened before), where money goes and drives traffic to candidates official web page.

    *** Make it as easy as possible for people to engage. Some will not want to send emails to their friends but will do other things like posting comment on Facebook, meme, up-voting, liking etc. View potential participants as customers: sell them assignments; show them how easy it is and how fast can it be done.


    WP 4. Monitoring and evaluation
    4.1. Deadlines are clearly set
    4.1.1. Web page made- 15.3.
    4.1.2. 10 generic letters to the editor are created-15.3.
    4.1.3. 100 background pictures, avatars banners are created-15.3.
    4.1.4. and so on.
    4.2. monitoring work of people that are in charge- those that took responsibility for certain aspect of money-bomb. If they didnt do what they are tasked to do someone else takes their place...



    After every money-bomb save work done and use it on next one.



    PROBLEMS:
    -Only few people are actively involved (usually less than 10)
    -Socialist commune method of operation and ad hoc approach: Everyone is responsible and no one is responsible. Assignments and responsibilities should be clearly set. If "x" person needs help with "y" he should know who is in charge of "y".


    OTHER:

    -RPF could get some awards for most active people (premium membership, bigger avatars etc.).
    -get some money and run Google ads and Facebook ads targeting potential donors
    -offer other sites that promote money-bomb free advertizing on RPF for some period of time?!?
    -info-jam: people with accounts on interwebz can spam on MSM pages (Facebook, Twitter, YouTube etc...) in comments sections about money-bomb (guerilla marketing).
    -Youtube video channel owners use the comment overlay feature in YouTube (not the comments that appear below the video - the ones that can be placed within the video frame itself) to drive traffic to Paul related videos of your choice and Ran Pauls official YouTube channel.
    Today I decided to get banned and spam activism on this forum...

    SUPPORT RANDPAULDIGITAL GRASSROOTS PROJECTS TODAY!

    http://i.imgur.com/SORJlQ5.png

    For more info. or to help spread the word, go to the promotion thread here.



    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    If I had to answer this question truthfully I'd probably piss a lot of people off lol, Barrex would be a better person to ask he doesn't seem to care lol.


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    Rand will be an announced candidate by then won't he? Donations could be given directly to the campaign then no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastiat's The Law View Post
    Rand will be an announced candidate by then won't he? Donations could be given directly to the campaign then no?
    Yes, RandPaul2016.com probably. WHat we need to do is get people engaged and to save the date. The excitement will produce momenentum after he announces

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    From 2009!
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Are we gonna RANDSLIDE? *ain't no tellin*

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Amash (R) MI-3rd
    "Young people want a Republican Party that believes in limited government and economic freedom and individual liberty, but they want a party that also acts on it.”

    THE FUTURE OF THE GOP = R[∃vo˩]ution 2.0: Rand Paul 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by NOVALibertarian View Post
    First they ignore you= Ron Paul, 2007-2008
    Then they laugh at you= Ron Paul, 2012
    Then they fight you= Rand Paul, 2014-2015
    And then you win= Rand Paul, November 8th, 2016

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    If anyone has any specific Rand soundbytes they want integrated into my next money bomb video, be sure to PM me some links!

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    Lots of great, well constructed input Barrex. In doing some research I saw you had some other good input from last cycle:
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...how-to-improve


    Some comments....
    Quote Originally Posted by Barrex View Post
    PROBLEMS:
    -Only few people are actively involved (usually less than 10)
    Yes, we need more people involved. I'm trying to do that.

    -Socialist commune method of operation and ad hoc approach: Everyone is responsible and no one is responsible. Assignments and responsibilities should be clearly set. If "x" person needs help with "y" he should know who is in charge of "y".
    Agreed, and right now everyone should be focusing on building our numbers so we can get a better plan.


    OTHER:

    -RPF could get some awards for most active people (premium membership, bigger avatars etc.).
    Game on. I'll pass out some Bronze, Silver and Gold memberships for top supporters, but you have to toss your hat in the ring, post here on PM me.
    See here for all the benefits: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/content...014-Contribute

    -get some money and run Google ads and Facebook ads targeting potential donors
    That's in the works. If someone wants to add in some funds to that then send a donation and PM a note that it's for ads.
    Donate here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/content...014-Contribute
    Note: You can get a membership included in that.

    -offer other sites that promote money-bomb free advertizing on RPF for some period of time?!?
    Good idea. I will do this. Interested parties should inquire in PM for details, or email me at admin @ rpfs full domain.com

    -info-jam: people with accounts on interwebz can spam on MSM pages (Facebook, Twitter, YouTube etc...) in comments sections about money-bomb (guerilla marketing).
    100% agree. We can do this, we just need people to get inspired for something great.

    Again, +rep input!
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    What is the goal going to be? How much do we expect to raise?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    What is the goal going to be? How much do we expect to raise?
    Depends on excitement level and how viral promotion becomes.

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    Can the admin of the page please name it Rand Paul for President Tax Day Moneybomb? People need to know its the first grassroots post announcement money bomb, otherwise they'll brush it off.
    THE SQUAD of RPF
    1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
    2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
    3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
    4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick

    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll

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    We'll promote it later in March.
    Find liberty candidates to support:
    http://www.candidates4liberty.com

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    Are you guys going off of the April 7th thing? Can't he possibly announce in May?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    What is the goal going to be? How much do we expect to raise?
    Goals are extremely important, but goal shouldnt be x amount of money. That is Cartmans method:

    1. Step one
    2. Step two
    3. ????
    4. PROFIT!!!

    We should define our outputs.

    Outputs:

    1. database of contact:
    - friendly Facebook pages with at least 1000 entries;
    - web pages where potential donors gather/visit (tea party, anti war, liberty sites, blogs etc.) at least 4000 entries;
    - yada yada... every online blog, social media group, web page, YouTube channel etc. that would promote money-bomb

    2. written content:
    - at least 10 versions of supportive letter to the editor
    - at least 15 press releases
    - at least 25 news articles with permission to publish freely

    3. graphic&video content:
    - at least 15 avatars of various sizes
    - at least 10 Facebook-background-live wall-pictures
    - at least 8 money-bomb gifs
    - at least 5 promotional videos are sent

    4. scripts, programs, internet witchcraft:
    - web page created
    - script/s that automatically replaces all social media pictures (avatar, timeline picture, background) on your main social media (Facebook, Twitter, Yelp, Youtube...) accounts to money-bomb themed pictures
    - game "Who said it" Rand, Hillary, Bush...

    5. MARKETING 80% of manpower and resources:
    - 15 press releases sent to at least 5000 media outlets
    - 500 letters to the editor sent to local media- paper and internet (better chances that they will be published)
    - 25 articles sent to gazillion media outlets- TO EVERYONE- mass mailing lists... Tell them something big is coming and they can report on it from begining or when it is over and everyone is reporting on it.

    We shouldnt contact potential donors one by one! We should target heads of organizations and centers of informations. Example:

    Person 1. spends 2 hours contacting every person he is friend on Facebook. Result: 500 people are informed about money-bomb.
    Person 2. spends 1 minute to post Facebook post on Fox Facebook page. Result: crapload more than 500 people are informed about money-bomb.
    Person 3. spends 30 minutes to contact web portal that is friendly to Rand about money-bomb. Result: 100xcrapload more people are informed about money-bomb.

    From my experience previous money-bombs were based on "Person 1" kind of promotion. We should focus on second and third example.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bastiat's The Law View Post
    Depends on excitement level and how viral promotion becomes.
    Excitement level and viral promotion depend on amount of planing, work and time put into it.
    Last edited by Barrex; 03-05-2015 at 08:42 AM. Reason: SHUT UP!
    Today I decided to get banned and spam activism on this forum...

    SUPPORT RANDPAULDIGITAL GRASSROOTS PROJECTS TODAY!

    http://i.imgur.com/SORJlQ5.png

    For more info. or to help spread the word, go to the promotion thread here.



    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    If I had to answer this question truthfully I'd probably piss a lot of people off lol, Barrex would be a better person to ask he doesn't seem to care lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    What is the goal going to be? How much do we expect to raise?
    5 million

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoisjohngalt View Post
    5 million
    That seems way too high.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    That seems way too high.
    I don't think it's way too high. It's certainly ambitious.

    If he does announce on April 7th, as is widely expected, there will be a lot of excitement. Add to that the fact that it's a Tax Day Money Bomb in conjunction with Rand's release of his new Flat Tax Proposal (possibly Fair Tax but I doubt it) and this has the potential to be very big.

    I can tell from the Facebook pages I'm involved with that the potential donor base for this moneybomb is far greater than it ever was for Ron. And lastly, everyone will know how much, if any, they are getting back on their tax return.



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    Quote Originally Posted by whoisjohngalt View Post
    I don't think it's way too high. It's certainly ambitious.

    If he does announce on April 7th, as is widely expected, there will be a lot of excitement. Add to that the fact that it's a Tax Day Money Bomb in conjunction with Rand's release of his new Flat Tax Proposal (possibly Fair Tax but I doubt it) and this has the potential to be very big.

    I can tell from the Facebook pages I'm involved with that the potential donor base for this moneybomb is far greater than it ever was for Ron. And lastly, everyone will know how much, if any, they are getting back on their tax return.
    We haven't seen anything close to that number from a moneybomb in 7-8 years though. Plus it's the first one, so it's difficult to estimate what it would look like. Previous Rand PAC fundraisers online have been pretty small.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    We haven't seen anything close to that number from a moneybomb in 7-8 years though. Plus it's the first one, so it's difficult to estimate what it would look like. Previous Rand PAC fundraisers online have been pretty small.
    Previous Rand PAC fundraisers have not been promoted by the grass roots, so I wouldn't use that as a point of comparison. And obviously it's completely different when you are talking about a presidential candidate.

    I'm expecting Black This Out type success (close to 3 million) but with a much wider donor base. We shall see. I know most people favor setting the bar low so that it looks good in the press. I'd rather push people to donate big with a high goal bc dollars are so much more valuable early on in the campaign.

    The $1000 donation matching thread has already begun on Facebook. I'm feeling optimistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoisjohngalt View Post
    Previous Rand PAC fundraisers have not been promoted by the grass roots, so I wouldn't use that as a point of comparison. And obviously it's completely different when you are talking about a presidential candidate.

    I'm expecting Black This Out type success (close to 3 million) but with a much wider donor base. We shall see. I know most people favor setting the bar low so that it looks good in the press. I'd rather push people to donate big with a high goal bc dollars are so much more valuable early on in the campaign.

    The $1000 donation matching thread has already begun on Facebook. I'm feeling optimistic.
    I think a bar of 3 million is still a pretty high goal and has a good amount of room to work hard for. During Rand's Senate campaign, moneybombs were around 250,000. Naturally this should be higher for his POTUS campaign, but I don't feel like we're at the same level of online enthusiasm as we were for Ron in late 2007.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I think a bar of 3 million is still a pretty high goal and has a good amount of room to work hard for. During Rand's Senate campaign, moneybombs were around 250,000. Naturally this should be higher for his POTUS campaign, but I don't feel like we're at the same level of online enthusiasm as we were for Ron in late 2007.
    I feel like we are trading depth for width regarding support and the new donors we are adding have more money. It's definitely not 2007, but not too far off from 2011. 3 million is probably a fair, realistic goal, but I would certainly take the over. Getting 30k people to donate an average of 100 shouldn't be very hard considering the timing.

    If he doesn't announce in time, 1 million is probably optimistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoisjohngalt View Post
    5 million
    I was thinking just one million, but perhaps my expectations are too low. It seems like a lot of the hardcore Ron Paul supporters who donated to Ron don't like Rand and aren't going to donate to him. I would be surprised if Rand's money bombs are as big as Ron's were. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like a good idea to set expectations too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoisjohngalt View Post
    I feel like we are trading depth for width regarding support and the new donors we are adding have more money. It's definitely not 2007, but not too far off from 2011. 3 million is probably a fair, realistic goal, but I would certainly take the over. Getting 30k people to donate an average of 100 shouldn't be very hard considering the timing.

    If he doesn't announce in time, 1 million is probably optimistic.
    $100 also isn't exactly a small amount of money for everyone.

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