Netanyahu Says Iran Cannot Be Trusted? Remember the USS Liberty

[James_Madison_Lives]

Saying "Iran cannot be trusted" Netanyahu today showed chutzpah that takes the cake.

Declassified cables show Israel knew the Liberty was an American ship after all. The object was to blame the attack on Egypt and draw the US into war in the Six Day War which was raging at the time. USS Liberty survivors speak in the new documentary "The Day Israel Attacked America."

New revelations in attack on American spy ship - Chicago Tribune

Five days after the Liberty attack, Harman cabled Eban that a source the Israelis code-named "Hamlet" was reporting that the Americans had "clear proof that from a certain stage the pilot discovered the identity of the ship and continued the attack anyway."

Harman repeated the warning three days later, advising Eban, who is now dead, that the White House was "very angry," and that "the reason for this is that the Americans probably have findings showing that our pilots indeed knew that the ship was American."

Fox News: "Ex-Navy Official: 1967 Israeli Attack on U.S. Ship Was Deliberate"

[Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Thomas] Moorer's panel suggested several possible reasons Israel might have wanted to attack a U.S. ship. Among them: Israel intended to sink the ship and blame Egypt because it might have brought the United States into the 1967 war.

Trailer - Liberty Survivors Speak - The Day Israel Attacked America


Full documentary: Liberty Survivors Speak- The Day Israel Attacked America

[enhanced_deficit]

Netanyahu Says Iran Cannot Be Trusted? Remember the USS Liberty

Liberty isn't the only thing , remember Israeli terrorist attacks on American buildings that Israel planned to blame on arab Islamists:

Israel's plan was to bomb Western targets, make it seem as though Egypt was behind the attacks
Nov. 11, 2009
The Lavon affair - also known locally as esek habish, "the rotten business" - was a plan to discredit Egypt's government, then headed by Gamal Abdel Nasser, by bombing theaters, post offices and U.S. and British institutions, and making it seem as though Egypt was behind the bombings. The thinking in Israel at the time was that if the British were to give up control of the Suez Canal, it would be left in Egypt's hands, putting Cairo in a better position to exert pressure on Israel.

The agents were told "to undermine the West's trust in the [Egyptian] government by causing public insecurity" while concealing Israel's role in the sabotage.

[phill4paul]

The attack on the USS Liberty is a conspiracy theory that disenfranchises Rand from the average Republican voter. With all the new voters that will be showing up after the CSPAN shot of Rand applauding Netanyahoo it's best if conspiracy theories such as this be relegated to Hot Topics.

[PRB]

Iran had nothing to do with USS Liberty

[Acala]

Iran had nothing to do with USS Liberty

Really not getting it, are you? Allow me to explain. Israel has been shown to be deceitful and treacherous. Israel now accuses Iran of not being trustworthy. Hilarity ensues.

[dillo]

Liberty isn't the only thing , remember Israeli terrorist attacks on American buildings that Israel planned to blame on arab Islamists:

Israel's plan was to bomb Western targets, make it seem as though Egypt was behind the attacks
Nov. 11, 2009
The Lavon affair - also known locally as esek habish, "the rotten business" - was a plan to discredit Egypt's government, then headed by Gamal Abdel Nasser, by bombing theaters, post offices and U.S. and British institutions, and making it seem as though Egypt was behind the bombings. The thinking in Israel at the time was that if the British were to give up control of the Suez Canal, it would be left in Egypt's hands, putting Cairo in a better position to exert pressure on Israel.

The agents were told "to undermine the West's trust in the [Egyptian] government by causing public insecurity" while concealing Israel's role in the sabotage.

Israel also gave the people medals of commendation after denying that the op ever existed

[PRB]

Really not getting it, are you? Allow me to explain. Israel has been shown to be deceitful and treacherous. Israel now accuses Iran of not being trustworthy. Hilarity ensues.

The fact Israel isn't trustworthy doesn't change the fact Iran isn't. Saying "you're a murderer too" isn't a defense.

[James_Madison_Lives]

The attack on the USS Liberty is a conspiracy theory that disenfranchises Rand from the average Republican voter. With all the new voters that will be showing up after the CSPAN shot of Rand applauding Netanyahoo it's best if conspiracy theories such as this be relegated to Hot Topics.

Oh really? Here is who says you are full of it and it is not a "conspiracy theory," including every survivor of the Liberty attack:

Secretary of State Dean Rusk,
Undersecretary of State George Ball,
former CIA director Richard Helms,
former NSA directors Lieutenant General William Odom, USA (Ret.), Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, USN (Ret.), and Marshal Carter;
former NSA deputy directors Oliver Kirby and Major General John Morrison, USAF (Ret.),
former Ambassador Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967;
Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, United States Navy, (ret.) former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff,
General Raymond G. Davis, US Marine Corps, former Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps,
Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, US Navy, (ret.) former Judge Advocate General of the Navy,
Ambassador James Akins, (ret.) former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia.

http://wais.stanford.edu/USA/US_USSL...110503%29.html

Still think it's a "conspiracy theory?"

[Danke]

J

Oh really? Here is who says you are full of it and it is not a "conspiracy theory," including every survivor of the Liberty attack:

Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Undersecretary of State George Ball, former CIA director Richard Helms, former NSA directors Lieutenant General William Odom, USA (Ret.), Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, USN (Ret.), and Marshal Carter; former NSA deputy directors Oliver Kirby and Major General John Morrison, USAF (Ret.), and former Ambassador Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967; Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, United States Navy, (ret.) former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Raymond G. Davis, US Marine Corps, former Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps, Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, US Navy, (ret.) former Judge Advocate General of the Navy, Ambassador James Akins, (ret.) former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia.

http://wais.stanford.edu/USA/US_USSL...110503%29.html

[ClydeCoulter]

Oh really? Here is who says you are full of it and it is not a "conspiracy theory," including every survivor of the Liberty attack:

Secretary of State Dean Rusk,
Undersecretary of State George Ball,
former CIA director Richard Helms,
former NSA directors Lieutenant General William Odom, USA (Ret.), Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, USN (Ret.), and Marshal Carter;
former NSA deputy directors Oliver Kirby and Major General John Morrison, USAF (Ret.),
former Ambassador Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967;
Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, United States Navy, (ret.) former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff,
General Raymond G. Davis, US Marine Corps, former Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps,
Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, US Navy, (ret.) former Judge Advocate General of the Navy,
Ambassador James Akins, (ret.) former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia.

http://wais.stanford.edu/USA/US_USSL...110503%29.html

Still think it's a "conspiracy theory?"

He was being sarcastic. (a pun on another thread)

[phill4paul]

Oh really? Here is who says you are full of it and it is not a "conspiracy theory," including every survivor of the Liberty attack:

Secretary of State Dean Rusk,
Undersecretary of State George Ball,
former CIA director Richard Helms,
former NSA directors Lieutenant General William Odom, USA (Ret.), Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, USN (Ret.), and Marshal Carter;
former NSA deputy directors Oliver Kirby and Major General John Morrison, USAF (Ret.),
former Ambassador Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967;
Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, United States Navy, (ret.) former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff,
General Raymond G. Davis, US Marine Corps, former Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps,
Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, US Navy, (ret.) former Judge Advocate General of the Navy,
Ambassador James Akins, (ret.) former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia.

http://wais.stanford.edu/USA/US_USSL...110503%29.html

Still think it's a "conspiracy theory?"

Lol.

[Acala]

The fact Israel isn't trustworthy doesn't change the fact Iran isn't. Saying "you're a murderer too" isn't a defense.

Still missing the point. The fact that Israel isn't trustworthy makes it hypocrisy for them to call Iran untrustworthy. See? Nobody is saying that Iran is trustworthy. But Israel has no standing to complain. So they should STFU.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Piece of history swept under the rug. I'd say 98% of people have no clue about this.

[James_Madison_Lives]

Piece of history swept under the rug. I'd say 98% of people have no clue about this.

This documentary is the best thing to circulate, in the words of the Liberty survivors themselves.

[PRB]

Still missing the point. The fact that Israel isn't trustworthy makes it hypocrisy for them to call Iran untrustworthy. See? Nobody is saying that Iran is trustworthy. But Israel has no standing to complain. So they should STFU.

how trustworthy do you need to be to be allowed to say somebody else isn't???

[jmdrake]

The fact Israel isn't trustworthy doesn't change the fact Iran isn't. Saying "you're a murderer too" isn't a defense.

If the star witness against you in a murder trial is a murderer that perjured himself in his murder trial then that is a defense as you are undermining his credibility.

[PRB]

If the star witness against you in a murder trial is a murderer that perjured himself in his murder trial then that is a defense as you are undermining his credibility.

your keyword here is perjury, not murder. you can say he's a career liar who never physically harmed anybody and the argument would still work. so my point stands, calling soembody a murderer (per se), even if true, is not a defense.

[Acala]

how trustworthy do you need to be to be allowed to say somebody else isn't???

The word of a proven liar and provocateur should be disregarded in any event.

[pcosmar]

The fact Israel isn't trustworthy doesn't change the fact Iran isn't. Saying "you're a murderer too" isn't a defense.

Yeah,, how dare they overthrow the Murderous Dictator that we imposed on them.

[THX 1138]

I wonder why Israel has never signed the NNP Treaty.

[ZENemy]

[William Tell]

Oh really? Here is who says you are full of it and it is not a "conspiracy theory," including every survivor of the Liberty attack:


Still think it's a "conspiracy theory?"

You don't know what sarcasm is?

[Dr.3D]

You don't know what sarcasm is?

What's funny is, this sign... Was even in the quote.

[Brett85]

Geez, even Bush and Obama were less bad than most Presidents according to that graph. That's just ridiculous.

[William Tell]

I imagine Iran wouldn't get away with machine gunning and torpedoing one of our naval ships. 'Murika doesn't let just anybody kill 34 of our guys, and wound another 171.

[ZENemy]

Geez, even Bush and Obama were less bad than most Presidents according to that graph. That's just ridiculous.

I heard that not too long ago that the "leader of the free world" put Japanese folks in camps, but that was pre bush so Its probably not true.

[PRB]

I imagine Iran wouldn't get away with machine gunning and torpedoing one of our naval ships. 'Murika doesn't let just anybody kill 34 of our guys, and wound another 171.

Of course not, nobody would, the only reasons Israel got away with it are because

1. Jews suffered a Holocaust
2. Rich Jews control the media and political money

[squarepusher]

USS Liberty was in zones it was agreed upon it would not be in, in contested territory/war zones, (was likely possibly spying).
This "conspiracy theory" has been pretty well debunked as far as I am concerned.

but "omgjewshatecontrolamericaaregoingtokillusall" !!

[Danke]

USS Liberty was in zones it was agreed upon it would not be in, in contested territory/war zones, (was likely possibly spying).
This "conspiracy theory" has been pretty well debunked as far as I am concerned.

but "omgjewshatecontrolamericaaregoingtokillusall" !!

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ssliberty.html

[squarepusher]

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ssliberty.html

SO what exactly is your theory on why Israel attacked the US ship?

Here is a good page debunking the USS Liberty Truthers
https://www.facebook.com/groups/435043943172720/