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At least DHS is fully funded for the next week.
Not sure who is being more ridiculous, the targets or the LEOs.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Why?Originally Posted by Matt Collins
Because these guys were issuing summons to local area judges demanding they appear in front of their group.... totally asinine.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
I agree that was silly. But the Fed and local authority responce was over the top too.
So, one group of silly people in silly outfits issuing demands is "asinine".
But when the other group does it, it's "the law".
And the only real difference is that group B has a squad of heavily armed men, ready and willing to light your ass up for non compliance.
Lmao.
“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell
Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump
As I wrote... I am not sure who was being more asinine in this situation...
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
No, one is the legitimate government, the other is just a group of random people with zero power.
Just because a government is not illegitimate doesn't mean it can't abuse its power, such as it did in this instance.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
I'm sure the heroes are fine.
I look up to them, I would be proud to serve in their administration.
Did you watch the video? 19:00
Last edited by Mach; 03-01-2015 at 09:18 AM. Reason: video
FJB
Says who? You?
Land of the free, folks.
“As if dangerous criminals, many of the Texian people — generally seniors of respected middle-class business, farming, broadcasting, engineering, scientific, health, veterans, and faith-based backgrounds — were one-by-one physically searched on their person and in their vehicles, fingerprinted, detained and then had their personal belongings and property searched and seized,” the Republic of Texas described on its website.
The website noted some of the belongings that were seized by police: “cell phones, iPads, laptops, business papers, Republic of Texas paperwork, coinage and other valuables.”
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No arrests were made, and the matter remains under investigation.
I thought someone had to be arrested first, before fingerprints were allowed to be taken. What's next? Instead of, "your papers - NOW!" are we going to start hearing, "step to the right, and give us your prints!" at random checkpoints?
That's it. You have cut straight to the core of the problem.
The search warrant included prints. It also included DNA, but they didn't take any DNA. What they were doing was getting evidence to find out who produced the fake papers.I thought someone had to be arrested first, before fingerprints were allowed to be taken. What's next? Instead of, "your papers - NOW!" are we going to start hearing, "step to the right, and give us your prints!" at random checkpoints?
Who has "authority" in this country?
Hint. "We the People"
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
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It's all about Freedom
That is a Fishing expedition.
This entire exercise will be thrown out of court. It's only purpose was intimidation.
And if these people are serious about secession,, they need to be ready to fight.
Because this corrupt government is quite willing to kill to keep their power.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
All it takes is for a small and dedicated group to stop the chain of obedience, and this place folds in an instance.
The Texas Constitution clearly states in Article 1,
"Sec. 2. INHERENT POLITICAL POWER; REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient."
and
"Sec. 29. PROVISIONS OF BILL OF RIGHTS EXCEPTED FROM POWERS OF GOVERNMENT; TO FOREVER REMAIN INVIOLATE. To guard against transgressions of the high powers herein delegated, we declare that everything in this "Bill of Rights" is excepted out of the general powers of government, and shall forever remain inviolate, and all laws contrary thereto, or to the following provisions, shall be void."
I'm starting to think that the Mayans were right about 2012. Ron Paul will change the world.
What were the charges the man was afraid to face.
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The way it is, or the way it should be?
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Define "legitimate", in the sense of government.
"When a portion of wealth is transferred from the person who owns it—without his consent and without compensation, and whether by force or by fraud—to anyone who does not own it, then I say that property is violated; that an act of plunder is committed." - Bastiat : The Law
"nothing evil grows in alcohol" ~ @presence
"I mean can you imagine what it would be like if firemen acted like police officers? They would only go into a burning house only if there's a 100% chance they won't get any burns. I mean, you've got to fully protect thy self first." ~ juleswin
It is obvious and thus de facto.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Thus endeth this thread.
I think you got that ass-backwards there. The US government is the one that is illegitimate. It was hijacked by the Fed in 1913.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
TX takes threats from sovcit groups seriously, almost as seriously as FL. Especially when a previous group of the same name was violent:
(from 1997):
http://tech.mit.edu/V117/N24/atexas.24w.html...
Of the two, only Keyes had charges pending against him. He was wanted on state charges of organized criminal activity and kidnapping in connection with the April 27 kidnapping that sparked the standoff. Acting on apparent orders from McLaren, he and Gregg and Karen Paulson, a married couple who belonged to the group, shot their way into a neighborhood couple's home, holding them as "prisoners of war" for 12 hours. Joe and M.A. Rowe were freed after Texas Rangers arranged the release of another Republic of Texas member, Robert Scheidt, who had been picked up by local deputies that morning on misdemeanor weapons charges.
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If they find the person who was producing the papers, they will put multiple charges on him, and he will take a plea agreement to stay out of prison. This is because the person will spend 6 months or so filing sovcit mumbo jumbo instead of getting a real lawyer or at least making a real argument about how the scope of the search warrant was too broad, and the evidence they got from the phones is inadmissible.
but you must agree, we have the right to abolish government correct?...silly point i know...
Absolutely. And we have the right to secede. But only under extreme circumstances, not for "light and transient reasons"
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