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    Rand vs. the GOP Juggernaut

    We will support Rand in 2016 (given that he runs). No preaching to the choir on that. We will cheer him on during the debates and happily march out and check his name during the Primary voting. But I'm starting to have this scary feeling that Rand is only going to have one chance, one very small, slim chance, to win over GOP voters who are already picking up the GOP/Jeb Bush juggernaut "inevitability" vibes. And his chance will come in the first debate, if not before.

    The current Jeb "juggernaut":


    My overall point: I'm starting to have a scary feeling, like I had with McCain and Romney, that once the party establishment lines up for someone this early, and gets the inevitability boulder rolling, its gonna take a lot of energy to stop it.

    But does that mean we are not going to try?

    Hell no.
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    Don't you mean "Jebbernaut"?
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    Rand will run on the Libertarian ticket after he and his ilk are officially purged from the party.

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    Right now Scott Walker is the biggest threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Right now Scott Walker is the biggest threat.
    The last time the "big GOP donors" contributed to Walker was in 2012 and, to a lesser extent, 2014. Most of those same donors have ALREADY either given to or committed to Jeb, and the rest are "keeping their options open." I just do not see how Walker is a bigger threat than Jeb. Jeb is scooping up the core of the GOP establishment, he is "playing the game," and he seems to be "their" chosen one, but CERTAINLY not ours!

    If you are focusing efforts on Walker, Jeb is going to slip behind the lines and out-flank you. I hope Rand knows this.
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    Just ringing the alarm bell, if they were not already going off. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Right now Scott Walker is the biggest threat.
    Right now, Scott Walker is the biggest opportunity.
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    It is completely unfathomable how even boobus GOPus could support a Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctiger2 View Post
    Rand will run on the Libertarian ticket after he and his ilk are officially purged from the party.

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    Why would a sitting Senator do that?!? For these people?

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    Huge power play: Rand announces he will officially be running for president, also announces the same day that Scott Walker agrees to be his VP. Make it happen Rand.

    Tell me why that wouldn't work. Haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by staerker View Post
    Huge power play: Rand announces he will officially be running for president, also announces the same day that Scott Walker agrees to be his VP. Make it happen Rand.

    Tell me why that wouldn't work. Haha.
    Better for Scott to just endorse with the VP announcement much further down the track. Plenty of other people will be eyeing that spot too.
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    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

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    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Better for Scott to just endorse with the VP announcement much further down the track. Plenty of other people will be eyeing that spot too.
    Although that's the traditional route, I don't think it really works out for nontraditional candidates.

    If Rand is going to be blacked out (in this case by Walker,) he needs to find a way to reverse that, and quick (relatively.) Otherwise he'll be marginalized, with nothing to show for the first few states. And we know how that goes.

    It is also my understanding that Rand and Walker will split the vote of the same wing of the party. At this point he needs to get out of the GOP alive, his VP won't affect the general election as much. I have more faith in the general populace than the GOP voters.

    Then again, I'm just having fun over here.

    eta: I don't think an endorsement means as much as an actual announcement. Rand will be ignored to some degree (probably a large one,) but you can't ignore a Paul/Walker ticket.
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