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  1. #31
    So I'm here at CPAC. Coming in I was worried about the surge in Scott Walker. It couldn't be more of the opposite. I Don't recall seeing any support for him. However Ben Carson is huge! It really took me surprise, but who it's going to come down to is Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. Cruz had a great speech this morning if anyone saw it they would agree. Many of the Ted Cruz supporters still came over to the YAL table and still wanted Rand buttons and shirts. So where those votes will go is to be seen. Tomorrow is going to be interesting to see Rand's turnout. But my prediction is going to be:

    Rand - 25%
    Cruz - 20%
    Carson - 15%



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    Thanks for reporting in, was wondering what it was like there support wise, couldn't really find much. I was also thinking Walker would be Rand's biggest obstacle, but I guess that's not the case if your reading on the support is accurate. Looking forward to watching Rand tomorrow

    So far I've only listened to Nigel Farage but I'll probably look up what Cruz and Walker had to say as well in a bit. I didn't know Farage would be there speaking until I read something about it a little while ago. I liked his speech and I'm glad he didn't shy away from speaking out against the disastorous intervention in the middle east. I think he added a good outside perspective on intervention and hopefully some pro-war people will wake up. I don't know much about him, as I don't follow British/European politics, but from what I've heard I like him
    Last edited by libertyplz; 02-26-2015 at 08:41 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ross11988 View Post
    So I'm here at CPAC. Coming in I was worried about the surge in Scott Walker. It couldn't be more of the opposite. I Don't recall seeing any support for him. However Ben Carson is huge! It really took me surprise, but who it's going to come down to is Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. Cruz had a great speech this morning if anyone saw it they would agree. Many of the Ted Cruz supporters still came over to the YAL table and still wanted Rand buttons and shirts. So where those votes will go is to be seen. Tomorrow is going to be interesting to see Rand's turnout. But my prediction is going to be:

    Rand - 25%
    Cruz - 20%
    Carson - 15%
    I just watched Cruz's speech - I was not impressed at all. I lost count of how many times I rolled my eyes during it, and it was capped off with Sean Hannity of all people sucking his **** with the softball Q&A. The more I hear from Cruz the less I like him. I find his approach to be somewhat patronizing. I am tired of hearing politicians like him make grandiose claims about things like killing ISIS, abolishing the IRS, repealing Obamacare,...etc, only to have those words, backed up with no substance, evaporate into thin air and getting everyone in the room high on them. And the longer the GOP keeps holding onto Cruz's recipe of trying to revitalize the Reagan coalition of fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, and war hawks, in order to scratch out 51% of the vote, the longer the GOP will keep losing. The coalition that will win overwhelmingly is the coalition of just about everyone who is fed up with both parties. Freedom is the winning message that brings everyone together, and Rand is a thousand miles ahead of Cruz (and everyone else, for that matter) in building that kind of change. Carson's speech wasn't bad, but there's no way he will win the straw poll or the nomination.
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    One of the things I can't get over when it comes to Cruz is he looks and sounds like a used car salesman.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    One of the things I can't get over when it comes to Cruz is he looks and sounds like a smarmy used car salesman.
    fify

    Word on the street (my source is an article in the WSJ from some months ago) is that even his Republican colleagues can't stand Cruz. Supposedly people getting on an elevator with him won't talk to him or even turn their backs. He has negative charisma. No way does a guy like that advance to the nomination. Anyone doing that needs friends along the way.
    Last edited by francisco; 02-26-2015 at 09:13 PM.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    One of the things I can't get over when it comes to Cruz is he looks and sounds like a used car salesman.
    I always thought that about sam brownback in those early 2007 debates, but cruz is certainly a good contender for that as well.
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    I just watched Cruz's speech - I was not impressed at all. I lost count of how many times I rolled my eyes during it, and it was capped off with Sean Hannity of all people sucking his **** with the softball Q&A. The more I hear from Cruz the less I like him. I find his approach to be somewhat patronizing. I am tired of hearing politicians like him make grandiose claims about things like killing ISIS, abolishing the IRS, repealing Obamacare,...etc, only to have those words, backed up with no substance, evaporate into thin air and getting everyone in the room high on them. And the longer the GOP keeps holding onto Cruz's recipe of trying to revitalize the Reagan coalition of fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, and war hawks, in order to scratch out 51% of the vote, the longer the GOP will keep losing. The coalition that will win overwhelmingly is the coalition of just about everyone who is fed up with both parties. Freedom is the winning message that brings everyone together, and Rand is a thousand miles ahead of Cruz (and everyone else, for that matter) in building that kind of change. Carson's speech wasn't bad, but there's no way he will win the straw poll or the nomination.
    Yea but you're not the average CPAC participant. Outside of the YAL/youth contingency that is there to give Rand a firm hold, he still needs to sway the average attendee his way. Some attendees that hear Cruz love what he has to say about killing ISIS and repealing Obamacare.
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    It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds. -Samuel Adams

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    It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds. -Samuel Adams

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    This. Is. Amazing.



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    edit: woops, sorry. double post.
    Last edited by LawnWake; 02-27-2015 at 09:51 AM.

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    Day 2 Stream:

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch...ac-2015-day-2/

    FRIDAY

    8:00 a.m. – Newt Gingrich
    8:30 a.m. – Laura Ingraham
    8:40 a.m. – Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
    9:00 a.m. – Former Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX)
    10:20 a.m. – Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)
    11:00 a.m. – Sean Hannity
    11:15 a.m. – Reince Priebus, RNC Chair
    12:00 p.m. – Donald Trump
    12:20 p.m. – Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)
    12:40 p.m. – Phil Robertson, Duck Dynasty
    1:20 p.m. – Wayne LaPierre, National Rifle Association
    1:40 p.m. – Former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL)
    4:20 p.m. – Former Amb. John Bolton
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  16. #43
    O damn, Laura Ingraham is going on the attack against Jeb Bush basically saying he and Hillary should be on the same ticket. We should just stop with the whole primary process and give it to Jeb, he supports common core, etc. lol.

    Edit:

    Defended Scott Walker's statement about being able to deal with ISIS cause he was able to deal with Union Protesters or something like that.

    Against a coronation of a nominee based on 50 rich families deciding who they are funding. (knock against bush)

    Positive remarks about Scott Walker, Chris Christie and Ted Cruz.
    Last edited by orenbus; 02-27-2015 at 07:38 AM.
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  17. #44
    Privacy vs. Security panel discussion now, Michael Hayden vs. Judge Nap!!!

  18. #45
    Judge Nap vs. General Michael Hayden on now debating topic of Nation Security and Liberty/Privacy.
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  19. #46
    The Judge looks so much more svelt and fit than before, it's amazing!

    Did anybody else notice the clapping and the glee in Hayden's face when Dobbs mentioned distrust of government from the commoners. Dude is there openly taunting the obvious. Sickening!
    Last edited by SneakyFrenchSpy; 02-27-2015 at 09:38 AM.
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  20. #47

    Rand's speech rescheduled - "around 11:45am ET"

    "around 11:45am ET"
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  21. #48
    I guess not.
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  23. #49
    looks like we got 2 similar threads going, but hes coming up next

  24. #50
    I hope so!

    I was impressed with his speech and his answer to his questions. Good stuff.
    Last edited by westkyle; 02-27-2015 at 11:48 AM.

  25. #51
    He did a great job and I was relieved to see that Hannity did not ask the questions at the end
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by SneakyFrenchSpy View Post
    The Judge looks so much more svelt and fit than before, it's amazing!
    He is getting ready for the Paul/Nap ticket.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Henry View Post
    He is getting ready for the Paul/Nap ticket.

    The judge is not interested in elective politics

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    The judge is not interested in elective politics
    Which is too bad.
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  29. #55
    Geez, this duck dynasty guy is a bore.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Geez, this duck dynasty guy is a bore.
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  32. #57
    Jeb is next up...
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by ross11988 View Post
    So I'm here at CPAC. Coming in I was worried about the surge in Scott Walker. It couldn't be more of the opposite. I Don't recall seeing any support for him.
    It's amazing how much the media spins these things. I've seen that at conventions. It's like they make up the story entirely.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross11988 View Post
    However Ben Carson is huge! It really took me surprise, but who it's going to come down to is Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. Cruz had a great speech this morning if anyone saw it they would agree. Many of the Ted Cruz supporters still came over to the YAL table and still wanted Rand buttons and shirts. So where those votes will go is to be seen. Tomorrow is going to be interesting to see Rand's turnout. But my prediction is going to be:

    Rand - 25%
    Cruz - 20%
    Carson - 15%
    Keep those reports coming! Good to get the real story.
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  34. #59
    The group for Ben Carson is very good at working conventions, to the point where they are competitive in straw polls.


    eta: anyone there on the ground, see if you can get lots of photos of the Carson organizers, they will be out there in 2016 as well.
    Last edited by CPUd; 02-27-2015 at 01:08 PM.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    The group for Ben Carson is very good at working conventions, to the point where they are competitive in straw polls.


    eta: anyone there on the ground, see if you can get lots of photos of the Carson organizers, they will be out there in 2016 as well.
    Paul / Carson? Doctor ticket.


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