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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by economics102 View Post
    There's no way even Newt himself was dumb enough to think he could have won.
    He might have had a decent shot at it in 2000, when he was still somewhat fresh in people's minds as the hero who opposed clinton with his contract on America. But by 2008, his moment in the sun was long gone. 2012 only proved his historical irrelevance and lack of any real substance.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    So can people maybe see how dumb it is to not fully support Rand because of some silly feud with Jesse Benton or because he's not quite as "pure" as Ron? Rand is going to need all of the help and all the donations he can get going up against Sheldon Adelson and the rest of the GOP establishment.
    Adelson and the rest of the GOP establishment opposed Obama, too. Should we all have given Obama money and our time?
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    Adelson and the rest of the GOP establishment opposed Obama, too. Should we all have given Obama money and our time?
    You can't be serious...
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    "Young people want a Republican Party that believes in limited government and economic freedom and individual liberty, but they want a party that also acts on it.

    THE FUTURE OF THE GOP = R[∃vo˩]ution 2.0: Rand Paul 2016

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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by philipped View Post
    You can't be serious...
    Of course I'm serious. People who don't support Rand for whatever reason shouldn't just support him because a repugnant corporate lackey opposes him. That's a terrible reason to support a candidate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
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  7. #35
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    If Rand Paul wants our support, he should earn it. Not because Sheldon Adelson hates him. Sheldon Adelson seems supportive of Ted Cruz. You and him have something in common.
    I don't support Ted Cruz. I just think he's not as bad as some of the others.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    I don't support Ted Cruz. I just think he's not as bad as some of the others.
    I think you, Bill Kristol and Sheldon Adelson have more in common than you may think.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    I think you, Bill Kristol and Sheldon Adelson have more in common than you may think.
    You can think what you want. I wouldn't have supported Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 and Rand in 2016 if I wasn't fully committed to advancing the cause of liberty in our country.

  11. #39
    Just remember that our job in the race just got a little harder. We all know the results and Newt did win The 2012 SC Primary in a small role from Adelson and outside groups. Rand Paul needs to learn all lessons of the past and run very hard in SC. The South Carolina Primary will not be the firewall, but like the Iowa Caucus, New Hampshire Primary, Nevada Caucus, Rand Paul must run to finish in first place. Rand Paul must either win or finish second place in the Florida Primary. Rand Paul is the only real liberty policy candidate in this race.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    You can think what you want. I wouldn't have supported Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 and Rand in 2016 if I wasn't fully committed to advancing the cause of liberty in our country.
    Yes, pat yourself on the back. You act like everyone should support Rand Paul simply because Sheldon Anderson hates him. I on the other hand think that if Rand Paul wants peoples support, he should earn it. And like I said, you and Sheldon Anderson have more in common than you can admit. He shouldn't be used as a reason to support Rand Paul.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    Yes, pat yourself on the back. You act like everyone should support Rand Paul simply because Sheldon Anderson hates him. I on the other hand think that if Rand Paul wants peoples support, he should earn it. And like I said, you and Sheldon Anderson have more in common than you can admit. He shouldn't be used as a reason to support Rand Paul.
    Ask yourself why Sheldon Anderson hates Rand Paul and will bankroll millions to stop him but has no problem at all with any of the other candidates in the race.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    Ask yourself why Sheldon Anderson hates Rand Paul and will bankroll millions to stop him but has no problem at all with any of the other candidates in the race.
    Ask yourself if consistency is something you are capable of? If Ted Cruz were the Republican nominee, you would be fully supportive of who Sheldon Anderson spent his billions on then wouldn't you?

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    Ask yourself why Sheldon Anderson hates Rand Paul and will bankroll millions to stop him but has no problem at all with any of the other candidates in the race.
    Because of who Rand's father is. If Anderson would judge Rand by his positions and not by association, maybe he wouldn't support him but I don't see any reason he'd oppose him.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by limequat View Post
    Bring it, Adelson. You got your ass kicked in 2012, you'll get your ass kicked again in 2016.
    Did he really though? He hasn't been negatively affected by the outcome in 2012.

  18. #45
    Rand can pay him back by ending foreign aid on Jan 20 2017. and yes, Israel is a foreign country

  19. #46
    Never mind. No point of feeding the troll.
    Last edited by Brett85; 02-25-2015 at 08:23 AM.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by P3ter_Griffin View Post
    Because of who Rand's father is. If Anderson would judge Rand by his positions and not by association, maybe he wouldn't support him but I don't see any reason he'd oppose him.
    He would still oppose him. Even Rand's watered down foreign policy isn't enough when he still takes positions like supporting negotiations with Iran. Someone like Sheldon Anderson is going to do everything he possibly can to stop someone who isn't fully on board with war with Iran.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by P3ter_Griffin View Post
    Because of who Rand's father is. If Anderson would judge Rand by his positions and not by association, maybe he wouldn't support him but I don't see any reason he'd oppose him.
    thread winner. Adelson just hasn't yet listened to Rand enough to realize that he's not his father. Not at all.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    Did he really though? He hasn't been negatively affected by the outcome in 2012.
    He's down 150 million. I'd say that's a negative outcome.
    Non-violence is the creed of those that maintain a monopoly on force.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    thread winner. Adelson just hasn't yet listened to Rand enough to realize that he's not his father. Not at all.
    No, Adelson just realizes that Rand not being identical to his father doesn't mean that he's in line with his extremely hawkish foreign policy views. The only two choices in foreign policy aren't that you either agree with 100% of Ron Paul's foreign policy, or you agree 100% with Lindsey Graham's foreign policy. There is a spectrum in between, and Rand is closer to Ron Paul than to Lindsey Graham, and is the only Republican candidate in the race who is closer to Ron than to Lindsey Graham on foreign policy. That's why Adelson opposes him, because he knows that even though he isn't Ron, he would be less hawkish than any President we've had in a long time. But you guys simply don't see any nuance in foreign policy at all and don't understand that. You think that if someone doesn't agree 100% with Ron's foreign policy that they must be a full blown Lindsey Graham neocon on foreign policy.

  25. #51
    Why not just offer the Rand the top amount you have in mind, to quit?

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by economics102 View Post
    This. Newt, like Santorum, was just in the race to astroturf and crowd out the legitimate Romney opposition. There's no way even Newt himself was dumb enough to think he could have won.
    Exactly. Newt running was like John Boehner 10-15 years from now having a few shots too many of jack and deciding to pick up and leave the condo on palm beach and give it a go for president. He cheated on his wife, got kicked out of his own speakership, and is just generally not liked by the American public.... and Santorum lol.... Bachmann... the Pizza Guy.... and now Huckabee? who next, Mark Levin? They literally take the most disliked and polarizing and unelectable Republicans and have them compete to be the "conservative" to lose to Romney/Jebbie

  27. #53
    "So can people maybe see how dumb it is to not fully support Rand because of some silly feud with Jesse Benton or because he's not quite as "pure" as Ron? Rand is going to need all of the help and all the donations he can get going up against Sheldon Adelson and the rest of the GOP establishment."

    I was going to say, if Adelson was smart, he would realize Rand can't compete in this field of candidates and just ignore him. Instead he wants to make Rand a target because of his own peculiarities and obsessions. Let me tell ya, there's a lot of free advertising in being a target.

    I think it's time someone admit what really happened in 2012. The candidacies of Gingrich and Santorum survived long past their sell-dates because the neocons convinced Adelson and Foster Freiss to spend their fireplace money keeping them both afloat. That way Ron Paul would never get a one-on-one shot at Romney.

    As much as I and many of us despise Benton, here's a way Rand could easily win not just our votes but our active support back. Declare political war on Adelson. Demand Republicans declare their loyalty to either Paul or a casino boss. demand the so-called "Christian Conservatives" between gambling and Israel. Use CPAC to take the agenda and challenge the party on foreign policy. Excite people to vote for you instead giving some boring speech of conservative talking everyone else is going to say. Highten the contradictions. I can think of no better way to rally the team together again than to make it a Rand vs. Adelson contest. The media will eat it up and it will give us a deeper reason to get involved than Rand's desire to sit in the Oval Office. I'm sure my grandmother would have loved to do that too. Is this going to be a campaign about himself or something bigger? That's what a lot of us are waiting to see. And that scum has given Rand a path to make it something bigger. Will he take it? That's what we're waiting to see.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Badger Paul View Post
    "So can people maybe see how dumb it is to not fully support Rand because of some silly feud with Jesse Benton or because he's not quite as "pure" as Ron? Rand is going to need all of the help and all the donations he can get going up against Sheldon Adelson and the rest of the GOP establishment."

    I was going to say, if Adelson was smart, he would realize Rand can't compete in this field of candidates and just ignore him. Instead he wants to make Rand a target because of his own peculiarities and obsessions. Let me tell ya, there's a lot of free advertising in being a target.

    I think it's time someone admit what really happened in 2012. The candidacies of Gingrich and Santorum survived long past their sell-dates because the neocons convinced Adelson and Foster Freiss to spend their fireplace money keeping them both afloat. That way Ron Paul would never get a one-on-one shot at Romney.

    As much as I and many of us despise Benton, here's a way Rand could easily win not just our votes but our active support back. Declare political war on Adelson. Demand Republicans declare their loyalty to either Paul or a casino boss. demand the so-called "Christian Conservatives" between gambling and Israel. Use CPAC to take the agenda and challenge the party on foreign policy. Excite people to vote for you instead giving some boring speech of conservative talking everyone else is going to say. Highten the contradictions. I can think of no better way to rally the team together again than to make it a Rand vs. Adelson contest. The media will eat it up and it will give us a deeper reason to get involved than Rand's desire to sit in the Oval Office. I'm sure my grandmother would have loved to do that too. Is this going to be a campaign about himself or something bigger? That's what a lot of us are waiting to see. And that scum has given Rand a path to make it something bigger. Will he take it? That's what we're waiting to see.
    I think it could pay off to go after Adelson, but it might be a good idea to keep that in his back pocket until a more opportune time, and after Adelson has already put his money where his mouth is.
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  29. #55

    Sheldon Adelson and his Republican friends are really worried about Rand Paul

    Sheldon Adelson and his Republican friends are really worried about Rand Paul
    By Jack Hunter - February 26, 2015

    Casino giant Sheldon Adelson is the 10th richest man in the world. Here are some of the things he痴 worried about.

    He痴 really worried that sick people in Florida might one day be able to ease their pain with marijuana. He has spent millions to make sure this doesn稚 happen.

    He痴 really worried that people will continue gambling online as opposed to doing so in one of his Las Vegas casinos. He is spending millions on this fight too.

    He痴 really worried about Rand Paul.
    ...
    Why is he so fearful of Paul? Foreign policy.

    The Kentucky senator believes the U.S. should adopt a more prudent and restrained approach to military force compared to the foreign policies of presidents Obama and Bush. Paul sees many problems with the current approach. He believes that in some ways our current foreign policy has created more problems than it solves.
    ...
    Most Americans opposed Obama痴 desire to intervene in Syria痴 civil war in 2013. Some believe the Obama administration痴 efforts to aid the rebel groups in turn aided the rise of the Islamic State.

    Most of the potential Republican presidential candidates for 2016 espouse a foreign policy vision far closer to Obama痴 than Paul痴 concerning Syria, and chastised the president for not intervening more in 2013.

    A focus of the New York Times analysis is that the threat of ISIS poses a new challenge for Sen. Paul痴 more restrained foreign policy views, as more Republicans want to see stronger military action taken against the Islamic State. Paul has noted that if not for the Iraq war, we wouldn稚 have ISIS.

    Paul痴 argument has been that we need to take action, but we must be careful that it doesn稚 lead to another Iraq war.

    The same is true regarding the current diplomatic efforts with Iran. A nuclear Iran is bad. A war with Iran might be worse.

    Most other potential 2016 Republican presidential candidates don稚 seem to have a problem with American boots on the ground in Iraq, Iran, Syria or other hot spots. The lessons of the Iraq war don稚 seem to faze them.

    Sheldon Adelson has a solution for Iran: He thinks we should nuke them.
    ...
    More: http://rare.us/story/sheldon-adelson...out-rand-paul/
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  30. #56
    This is actually very good, the more people attacking Rand in a debate, the more time he gets to speak and articulate and clarify his positions.

    Why did Romney get so much time to speak in the debates? because all of the candidates were attacking "up" at him, giving him the most debate time via response.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy View Post
    So Peter Thiel and the Koch Bros. vs. Adelson & Wall Street? Let's dance.
    I was getting ready to ask if these guys were actually going to stick up for Rand. If the Koch Bros. do, I can see Thiel jumping in as well. If that does happen hopefully it'll cause more to "come out of the closet" in support of Rand without fear of retribution.

  33. #58
    Rand said in an interview that this report was false, that Adelson denied it. He also said that he sat down with him and his wife and talked to them and is on good terms with them.

    http://www.nachumsegal.com/wp-conten...M-03042015.mp3

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Rand said in an interview that this report was false, that Adelson denied it. He also said that he sat down with him and his wife and talked to them and is on good terms with them.

    http://www.nachumsegal.com/wp-conten...M-03042015.mp3
    This changes a couple things lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Amash (R) MI-3rd
    "Young people want a Republican Party that believes in limited government and economic freedom and individual liberty, but they want a party that also acts on it.

    THE FUTURE OF THE GOP = R[∃vo˩]ution 2.0: Rand Paul 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by NOVALibertarian View Post
    First they ignore you= Ron Paul, 2007-2008
    Then they laugh at you= Ron Paul, 2012
    Then they fight you= Rand Paul, 2014-2015
    And then you win= Rand Paul, November 8th, 2016

  35. #60
    Sad to see not many players on the live circuit boycotting Venetian run events (casino owned by Adelson) anymore

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