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    'American Sniper' Killer Eddie Ray Routh Wasn't Insane, Expert Says

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...t-says-n310041

    21 Feb. 2015

    The ex-marine accused of killing "American Sniper" Chris Kyle and another man at a shooting range was not legally insane because he chose the time and place to gun down both men, and he avoided killing the pair while they were driving because he feared an accident, experts for the prosecution testified Friday.

    Forensic psychologist Dr. Randall Price testified that murder suspect Eddie Ray Routh was instead experiencing paranoia, irritability and depression due to residual effects of smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol when he killed Kyle and Chad Littlefield on Feb. 2, 2013.

    "He did choose the time to kill them," Price said.

    Price said Routh indicated he was agitated that Kyle brought Littlefield along for their outing, and "he thought they weren't treating him right." The guns in the back seat of the truck made Routh "fearful for his life" and "he considered to kill them while on way to gun range, but if he did they may have an accident that would kill him."

    "Individuals with schizophrenia don't have that much insight to what is going on," Price said.

    A second witness for the prosecution, psychiatrist Dr. Michael Arambula agreed, saying, Routh "didn't have issues with Chris (Kyle) — only Chad (Littlefield) — but because Chris would shoot him for shooting Chad, he had to shoot Chris. And that makes sense, and is not psychotic thinking."

    Routh's attorneys will argue that he is not guilty by reason of insanity. A defense witness, Dr. Mitchell H. Dunn, testified Thursday that Routh's medical records and interviews indicated he was suffering from schizophrenia at the time of the crime. The defense rested their case Thursday.

    Prosecution rebuttal is expected to continue Monday. Prosecutors have said they will seek life in prison without parole if he is convicted of capital murder, rather than the death penalty.

    Kyle was reputed to be the deadliest sniper in U.S. history. His autobiography, "American Sniper," is the inspiration for the Oscar-nominated movie released this year.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    On the other hand, Chris Kyle was a psychopath...as are many American "heroes."
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    I don't know much about the case, but the movie was fantastic.

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    What is the swc team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf View Post
    What is the swc team?
    Suspected War Criminal.

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    'American Sniper' Killer Eddie Ray Routh Wasn't Insane, Expert Says

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...t-says-n310041

    21 Feb. 2015

    The ex-marine accused of killing "American Sniper" Chris Kyle and another man at a shooting range was not legally insane because he chose the time and place to gun down both men, and he avoided killing the pair while they were driving because he feared an accident, experts for the prosecution testified Friday.

    Forensic psychologist Dr. Randall Price testified that murder suspect Eddie Ray Routh was instead experiencing paranoia, irritability and depression due to residual effects of smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol when he killed Kyle and Chad Littlefield on Feb. 2, 2013.

    "He did choose the time to kill them," Price said.

    Price said Routh indicated he was agitated that Kyle brought Littlefield along for their outing, and "he thought they weren't treating him right." The guns in the back seat of the truck made Routh "fearful for his life" and "he considered to kill them while on way to gun range, but if he did they may have an accident that would kill him."

    "Individuals with schizophrenia don't have that much insight to what is going on," Price said.

    A second witness for the prosecution, psychiatrist Dr. Michael Arambula agreed, saying, Routh "didn't have issues with Chris (Kyle) — only Chad (Littlefield) — but because Chris would shoot him for shooting Chad, he had to shoot Chris. And that makes sense, and is not psychotic thinking."

    Routh's attorneys will argue that he is not guilty by reason of insanity. A defense witness, Dr. Mitchell H. Dunn, testified Thursday that Routh's medical records and interviews indicated he was suffering from schizophrenia at the time of the crime. The defense rested their case Thursday.

    Prosecution rebuttal is expected to continue Monday. Prosecutors have said they will seek life in prison without parole if he is convicted of capital murder, rather than the death penalty.

    Kyle was reputed to be the deadliest sniper in U.S. history. His autobiography, "American Sniper," is the inspiration for the Oscar-nominated movie released this year.
    $#@! the experts. experts in dispersing their own story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Suspected War Criminal.
    What war crimes is Michelle Obama suspected of committing?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf View Post
    What war crimes is Michelle Obama suspected of committing?
    Part of the team.

    I'm sure enhanced_deficit will be happy to explain it to you, Ed.

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    He feared an accident, but didn't fear getting pulled over by the police in the car of the man he had just killed?

    I love how his target was Littlefield. LoL He probably didn't even really know who Chris Kyle was, (as in the stories about Kyle may have been quite pointless, as the target of his paranoid delusions was Littlefield).
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    LoL. If Routhe were a cop, he could just claim he feared for his life. They had guns, in their hands.
    Last edited by UWDude; 02-22-2015 at 12:19 AM.

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    Honestly, I'm thankful that the $#@!ty movie and book is all Kyle will ever have to contribute. A psychopath is dead and a schizo will pay the price for it.

    We truly live in an insane world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    On the other hand, Chris Kyle was a psychopath...as are many American "heroes."
    One word: Karma

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    With all the lies CK has been caught spreading for self promotion, I can only guess at the frustration levels Routh (a vet with PTSD) must have felt hanging out with CK. Imagine realizing you are only a prop for some braggart's foundation and having to listen to that know-it-all who you know is full of crap. No wonder he snapped. Routh needed some quiet time to reflect.

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    "Normal is the average insanity of the mass." -- R.D. Laing



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    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    ............... a schizo will pay the price for it.

    ............
    or maybe an MKULTRA candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf View Post
    What war crimes is Michelle Obama suspected of committing?
    War on children's lunch .School children are prison detainees .
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    I wonder if Kyle's death had any connection to the Boston Bombing? Weren't there Craft International personnel seen there?

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    What if Kyle was an under-the-table mercenary for certain factions within the U.S. government (as explained by his New Orleans exploits) and who's large mouth was drawing too much attention to himself (see Craft International's presence at the Boston Bombing months after his death) as well his employers? Could Kyle have become a security risk in their eyes? Or was there a dispute of some type with his employer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Heck, kyle bragged about killing 30(?) Americans illegally in new Orleans. Shouldn't we be giving this guy a medal?

    But they were savages! He's a hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    What if Kyle was an under-the-table mercenary for certain factions within the U.S. government (as explained by his New Orleans exploits) and who's large mouth was drawing too much attention to himself (see Craft International's presence at the Boston Bombing months after his death) as well his employers? Could Kyle have become a security risk in their eyes? Or was there a dispute of some type with his employer?
    it is suspicious to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    What if Kyle was an under-the-table mercenary for certain factions within the U.S. government (as explained by his New Orleans exploits) and who's large mouth was drawing too much attention to himself (see Craft International's presence at the Boston Bombing months after his death) as well his employers? Could Kyle have become a security risk in their eyes? Or was there a dispute of some type with his employer?
    One hypothesis I've considered is that he was killed off for not wanting to go along with the Boston false flag.



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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    One hypothesis I've considered is that he was killed off for not wanting to go along with the Boston false flag.
    That's plausible as well. It just doesn't pass the logic test that Kyle survives 4 tours in a highly dangerous & chaotic Iraq and then is summarily executed by a Marine washout in the domestic United States? Something is not right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    One hypothesis I've considered is that he was killed off for not wanting to go along with the Boston false flag.
    Or he was involved and was killed due to his big $#@!ing mouth.

    I think Eddie Ray has a $#@! for brains attorney. (I also suspect he may have had a good reason for offing these guys)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Or he was involved and was killed due to his big $#@!ing mouth.
    I think Eddie Ray has a $#@! for brains attorney. (I also suspect he may have had a good reason for offing these guys)
    Given kyles bragging about killing American citizens in the homeland without trial, my thoughts since the beginning have been that maybe they told this guy they intended to continue and maybe even tried to get him to join them and he justifiably felt the need to put them down.

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    So , you all think , he got David Sanchez Morales'd ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    On the other hand, Chris Kyle was a psychopath...as are many American "heroes."
    That hardly justifies murdering him.
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