Bisexuals hopeful as 1 of their own becomes a governor

[enhanced_deficit]

Before Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2002, such freedoms in the US were unimaginable.
On similar note, there is some controversy if America has elected its first bisexual or gay Prez or not yet.


Bisexuals hopeful as 1 of their own becomes a governor

By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer | February 14, 2015

• Photo By Don Ryan/AP
  FILE - In this Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2012 file photo, Oregon Democratic Secretary of State Kate Brown celebrates President Barack Obama's projected victory after winning her race at Democratic headquarters in Portland, Ore. The sudden advent of an openly bisexual governor in Oregon may provide a chance to broaden understanding of America's bi community.

NEW YORK (AP) — "LGBT" has become a household term amid sweeping advances for gay rights, and yet the "B'' sometimes seems like an awkward fit. The sudden advent of America's first openly bisexual governor may provide a chance to ease the awkwardness and broaden understanding of the bi community.

Kate Brown, Oregon's secretary of state, is in line to replace Democratic Gov. John Kitzhaber when he steps down Wednesday amid an ethics scandal. Brown, serving her second term after many years in the legislature, lives in Portland with her husband and two stepchildren and has been open throughout her political career about being bisexual.

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/a...-a-6081324.php



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[CPUd]

[enhanced_deficit]

CPUd, are these pics related to dDG, the governor in OP or something else?

[Sola_Fide]

What are they hopeful for?

[idiom]

Freedom, like anyone else. Although a lot of the time they don't know it.

Come on USA, over here we have had the top five positions in the country occupied by women simultaneously, we have had transgendered MP's and almost anything else you can think of.

Yet, somehow the least economically restrictive government around.

[Sola_Fide]

Freedom, like anyone else.

I don't believe that.

[jmdrake]

Okay. So if gay marriage becomes the law of the and, and she is restricted to picking either a man or a woman to marry, but not both simultaneously, is that discrimination?

[Sola_Fide]

Okay. So if gay marriage becomes the law of the and, and she is restricted to picking either a man or a woman to marry, but not both simultaneously, is that discrimination?

Sure it is. That is discrimination against polygamists...and people who marry animals.

[Anti Federalist]

What are they hopeful for?

I was wondering that myself...

Getting laid while visiting the governor's mansion?

[Ender]

I was wondering that myself...

Getting laid while visiting the governor's mansion?

Maybe being accepted?

[Anti Federalist]

Maybe being accepted?

Equating a politician's similar sexual preference with your own and waving that as a banner makes about as much sense as claiming you are good at football because your last name is Brady.

Besides, how much more "accepted" can LBGT sexual preferences be?

It's on universal display in real life and in every form of media 24/7.

[Rothbardian Girl]

Is it just me or does the premise of this article not make any sense at all? I am highly pessimistic that the election of a token bi individual will make any difference in how bi people are perceived.

It's on universal display in real life and in every form of media 24/7.

I'd say biphobia/bi erasure is a legitimate phenomenon, as evidenced by the fact that it is being (jokingly?) misunderstood in this very thread.

[specsaregood]

..

[Sola_Fide]

Maybe being accepted?

Accepted in regards to what? I thought you said you were a "minister"? Don't you know that the Bible condemns homosexuality?

[Sola_Fide]

Is it just me or does the premise of this article not make any sense at all? I am highly pessimistic that the election of a token bi individual will make any difference in how bi people are perceived.


I'd say biphobia/bi erasure is a legitimate phenomenon, as evidenced by the fact that it is being (jokingly?) misunderstood in this very thread.

It doesn't make sense. But I asked you why homosexuality and communism has been so historically linked and you never answered.

[Ender]

Accepted in regards to what? I thought you said you were a "minister"? Don't you know that the Bible condemns homosexuality?

Do you believe in freedom or not? What consenting adults do should be their own business.

Matthew 7:1-3

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

[Sola_Fide]

Do you believe in freedom or not? What consenting adults do should be their own business.

Matthew 7:1-3

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Whoa...wait a second. I am not talking about politics. I am a voluntarist. I am talking about morality. Don't you understand that it is okay to be against sin without supporting legislation against sins? Or did they not teach you that in seminary? By the way, what seminary did you go to?

[enhanced_deficit]

What are they hopeful for?

For a news headline like this?

"Bisexuals hopeful as 1 of their own becomes President"


Speculating though.

[Ender]

Whoa...wait a second. I am not talking about politics. I am a voluntarist. I am talking about morality. Don't you understand that it is okay to be against sin without supporting legislation against sins? Or did they not teach you that in seminary? By the way, what seminary did you go to?

Hate to tell you but this is the Political News forum- save it for the religious forum- and my life is none of your business.

[Natural Citizen]

Whoa...wait a second. I am not talking about politics. I am a voluntarist. I am talking about morality. Don't you understand that it is okay to be against sin without supporting legislation against sins? Or did they not teach you that in seminary? By the way, what seminary did you go to?

I've, at times, wondered why some voluntarists refute free will but then hold a voluntarist mindset politically. Off topic, I know, but your thought there just reminded me of it. It's kind of scwewy. Morality is nothing more than ones own perception of right or wrong. And so order in that regard would be subjective.

[Rothbardian Girl]

It doesn't make sense. But I asked you why homosexuality and communism has been so historically linked and you never answered.

Uh, well, I apologize - I haven't happened to see your question in the thread. But I would have to question your premise as well. If you are talking about historical communist thought, homosexuality tended to be seen as the product of a decadent, bourgeois culture. Leftists in general have an extremely poor track record when it comes to defending homosexuality (among other things). Basically, Marxist-Leninists and their associated regimes tended to be much less accepting of homosexuality, particularly after Stalin came to power. Trotskyists and Marx & Engels themselves suggested the state had no right to interfere in sexual matters.

I would also point out that although academia has largely shifted to defending LGBT rights in recent times, there is a stupid theory out there that suggests gays should automatically be socialist because "*****ness disrupts the capitalist binary"... but one look around your average gay neighborhood shows that gay business owners tend to be the first group to gentrify decaying neighborhoods - in other words, they are capitalist vanguards.

tl;dr Communist/socialist thought is far too fractured to make any sweeping generations about their tolerance of homosexuality.

[oyarde]

A dem gov in Oregon bringing hope ? I think not .

[Sola_Fide]

Uh, well, I apologize - I haven't happened to see your question in the thread. But I would have to question your premise as well. If you are talking about historical communist thought, homosexuality tended to be seen as the product of a decadent, bourgeois culture. Leftists in general have an extremely poor track record when it comes to defending homosexuality (among other things). Basically, Marxist-Leninists and their associated regimes tended to be much less accepting of homosexuality, particularly after Stalin came to power. Trotskyists and Marx & Engels themselves suggested the state had no right to interfere in sexual matters.

I would also point out that although academia has largely shifted to defending LGBT rights in recent times, there is a stupid theory out there that suggests gays should automatically be socialist because "*****ness disrupts the capitalist binary"... but one look around your average gay neighborhood shows that gay business owners tend to be the first group to gentrify decaying neighborhoods - in other words, they are capitalist vanguards.

tl;dr Communist/socialist thought is far too fractured to make any sweeping generations about their tolerance of homosexuality.

So the 45 goals of Communist Party in 1963 has nothing to do with homosexuality? Why does it say this?

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

[Uriel999]

excuse me while I go look for $#@!s to give...







nope couldn't find any.

[jmdrake]

Is it just me or does the premise of this article not make any sense at all? I am highly pessimistic that the election of a token bi individual will make any difference in how bi people are perceived.


I'd say biphobia/bi erasure is a legitimate phenomenon, as evidenced by the fact that it is being (jokingly?) misunderstood in this very thread.

You know what? I don't get it. I'll be honest and say I don't. Oh I get how people can be bisexual and all. I just don't see the need to broadcast it. If two people are in a same sex marriage they are in a gay relationship even if one or other bi. At least that's the case legally. Same if they are opposite sex they are in a heterosexual marriage. And outside the legal realm, who cares? Do people into BDSM need to point that out in an election campaign?

[enhanced_deficit]

Okay. So if gay marriage becomes the law of the and, and she is restricted to picking either a man or a woman to marry, but not both simultaneously, is that discrimination?

After "gay marriage" success, are you suggesting next battle will be over "LGBT Marriage" . Very tough question from discrimination point of view, best not to raise such explosive questions that could torment national political system.

Brown lives in Portland, Oregon, with her husband Dan Little. She has two stepchildren, Dylan and Jessie. She identifies as bisexual and was the country's first openly bisexual statewide officeholder

[Sola_Fide]

After "gay marriage" success, are you suggesting next battle will be over "LGBT Marriage" . Very tough question from discrimination point of view, best not to raise such explosive questions that could torment national political system.

I don't ever offer the topic up in the context of politics. I believe in absolute freedom. I am offering the topic up in the context of morality. Two different issues altogether.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I don't ever offer the topic up in the context of politics. I believe in absolute freedom. I am offering the topic up in the context of morality. Two different issues altogether.

Figures. From the guy whose sole purpose on this board is evangelization.

[Sola_Fide]

Figures. From the guy whose sole purpose on this board is evangelization.

No, I think the Christian worldview touches on all aspects of life.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

No, I think the Christian worldview touches on all aspects of life.

Yes, you're evangelizing on this board. Man up and admit it.