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Thread: Politician Suggest Taxpayers Give up Coffee, Cell Phones, TV and Internet to Pay for Potholes

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    Politician Suggest Taxpayers Give up Coffee, Cell Phones, TV and Internet to Pay for Potholes

    Apparently the article skipped over this, have to go to the comment section..

    This article has so skewed the facts of what happened that it is shocking. What happened is this: Scott McGolpin presented a chart showing how much money the average taxpayer spends every year on coffee, cable TV, cell phones and internet service. He then suggested that if the taxpayers gave up the afore mentioned "addictions" they could afford to pay higher taxes. This sparked an absolute taxpayer revolt in the Board of Supervisor's meeting room. All 8 speakers who gave public comment reminded the board that several supervisors opposed Measure M and at least 3 supervisors held up signs during the election saying "No New Taxes!" ( remember that Liz?). After public comment Salud Carbajal and Doreen Farr meekly told the full board and the public that they would not support raising taxes-at any level of government- to pay for road and bridge repairs.
    http://www.independent.com/news/2015...ague-potholes/
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    LOL,lol, thank you Danno .

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    I'd much rather just give up politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    I'd much rather just give up politicians.
    Splendid idea sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    I'd much rather just give up politicians.
    That was my first thought when reading this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I ain't giving up my coffee for nobody.
    Me neither, they'd have bigger problems than potholes if a bunch of people gave up coffee.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    The thought process of some people is quite scary....

    Nobody should have to sacrifice anything to support government largess.

    It's time to fire politicians/"Just-Us" dept. employees and cut pensions.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    The thought process of some people is quite scary....

    Nobody should have to sacrifice anything to support government largess.

    It's time to fire politicians/"Just-Us" dept. employees and cut pensions.
    Can't.

    When we do, they sue and get their job/surveillance systems back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Can't.

    When we do, they sue and get their job/surveillance systems back.
    With no "Just-Us" dept. employees where are they going to file suit?

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    We could probably use a few more potholes. But we can just dig our own. Cheaper that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Apparently the article skipped over this, have to go to the comment section..



    www.independent.com/news/2015/feb/12/plague-potholes/
    These scumbags will loot us dry, they accuse us of being "selfish" but they are the most selfish human beings on planet earth, they want to loot us dry for their agendas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    We could probably use a few more potholes. But we can just dig our own. Cheaper that way.
    Get all you wish for and enjoy .

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    I suggest we give up the Politician to pay for our Potholes and keep our Coffee, Cell Phones, TV and Interwebz.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    McGolpin suggested looking to Oregon, which has been toying with its new VMT system for some time. Governor Jerry Brown has been looking north, too, as he set aside $9.4 million in his budget for a 6,000-person pilot program in California. McGolpin, whose car gets 38 miles per gallon on the highway, said he will be one of the first to volunteer and won’t be letting the idea of GPS monitoring his mileage get to*him.

    “We’ve got to get beyond that Big Brother mentality,” he said. “Everybody carries a cell phone. They, quote unquote, ‘know where you are.’ If it’s in your car, so what?” Still, he said, a “menu of options,” including allowing people to self-report their mileage, setting up different payment plans, and deciding if and how bicyclists and other road users could contribute, should be on the*table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    I'd much rather just give up politicians.
    Or fill the potholes with politicians?



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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Or fill the potholes with politicians?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^Winner! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Apparently the article skipped over this, have to go to the comment section..



    http://www.independent.com/news/2015...ague-potholes/
    LOL. So no thought of giving up spending on unnecessary wars (everyone fought since I've been alive at least), and the cost of putting people in prison for victimless crimes as a way to pay for potholes?
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

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    Okay. This part of the article is absolutely stupid (like the rest wasn't).

    For the last 20 years, California’s gas tax to pay for this work has stayed the same: 18.5 cents per gallon. In 2015 terms, the value of that 18.5 cents has been cut in half. And in the same two decades, cars have become twice as fuel-efficient, a trend that will only escalate in the years to come. Plunging gas prices haven’t helped, either.

    What the hell does falling gas prices have to do with gas taxes? The gas tax is 18.5 cents per gallon no matter how much a gallon of gas costs. So if gas is $3.00 per gallon, the government gets 18.5 cents per gallon. If gas is $1.50 per gallon the government gets 18.5 cents per gallon. Actually cheaper gas should mean higher revenue. Why? Because when gas is $1.50 per gallon people are more willing to drive. Duh! How many people have cut down on road trips because of high gas prices? People tend to vacation closer to home. And high gas prices spur the growth of the electric car market, which the article also cites as a reason for lower tax revenue. So if gas prices drop there are more gas guzzlers on the road. Bad for the environment? Maybe. But great for gas tax revenue.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Or fill the potholes with politicians?
    Best Post Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Or fill the potholes with politicians?
    Too weak-ass to protect the subgrade.

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    Bring all politicians to the ocean to feed the Sharks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rg17 View Post
    Bring all politicians to the ocean to feed the Sharks.
    Monsanto Mulch

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    LOL. So no thought of giving up spending on unnecessary wars (everyone fought since I've been alive at least), and the cost of putting people in prison for victimless crimes as a way to pay for potholes?
    Exactly...
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    If politicians gave up their addiction to my money, I might be able to have coffee every day. Once every 4-6 months is about right, unless you count church where it's free. Even then, it would be about a cup a week, if that.

    As it is, I'm supporting two US Senators, one US Congressman, and a number of state and local yahoos, who all live way better than I do. If I need a cup of coffee or a Diet Mt. Dew (keep your seat, donnay ) to help me go to work to pay all those taxes, then what's it to them?
    “When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it”~~ Frederic Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    Monsanto Mulch
    Monsanto should really be a subsidiary of Soylent Green. Made with Real Politicians.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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