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  1. #1

    Exclamation Buy the Farm

    My wife is going to be a Great Grandmother and is wanting to move.

    So I am offering my Farm to the Market.
    It would be considered a Hobby Farm. 20 acres. some wooded some clear.

    Four bedroom farm house built in 1921. Barn and outbuildings.

    Rural area. Zoned for anything. 1/4 mile from main road.

    needs a few repairs, but is presently livable and lived in.

    I have no idea what market is right now..

    I would like $200K but I doubt that. I am hoping for $150K.

    I put a query out elsewhere online and thought I would make the offer to the folks here..

    Buy my Farm.


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  3. #2
    Are those birches?

    What kind of internet access do you get?

    Outbuildings - pole barn? Garages?

    What condition is the barn in?

    Any equipment that would transfer with it?

    Is that a chimney? What's it connected to?
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  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Are those birches? Yes

    What kind of internet access do you get?(Good)

    Outbuildings - pole barn? Garages?(Old Finnish Sauna,,used as a storage work-shed)(Carriage House/bunny barn)

    What condition is the barn in? (older than the house I think, Three story, Metal Roof)

    Any equipment that would transfer with it? (Maybe)

    Is that a chimney? What's it connected to? (Yes. Everything. Oil and wood furnaces)
    Are those silly questions? or are you serious?

    I am serious,, though I do not want to sell it at all.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  5. #4
    I'd just suggest the following for any listing you make:

    square footage
    updates
    # of bedrooms
    # of bathrooms
    original features/woodwork, etc
    types of foliage/animals that frequent property (for hunting/gathering purposes)

    Hope it all works out for you. If you need any help writing an ad (assuming you're going FSBO), I've had some pretty good results. Good pictures of the interior, barn, land--always a good thing.

    Have you guys considered renting it out and staying in a small rental near the great-grandkids? That way you can always go back or sell at a later date if you choose to do so. Might be easier to talk your wife into that, since you don't want to sell--could be a win-win.
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  6. #5


    Now I regret even more not getting a chance to visit with you when my ass was stuck in Wisconsin for the fall of 2013.

    Good luck brother.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-31-2015 at 01:43 AM.

  7. #6
    Sorry to hear that you 'have to' sell the place

    Wrong continent for me but it sounds like a bargain compared to what we pay here for real-estate.
    The land alone would be worth 300k-half a million.

    I hope you can get a decent price. Good luck.
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  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    I'd just suggest the following for any listing you make:

    square footage
    updates
    # of bedrooms
    # of bathrooms
    original features/woodwork, etc
    types of foliage/animals that frequent property (for hunting/gathering purposes)

    Hope it all works out for you. If you need any help writing an ad (assuming you're going FSBO), I've had some pretty good results. Good pictures of the interior, barn, land--always a good thing.

    Have you guys considered renting it out and staying in a small rental near the great-grandkids? That way you can always go back or sell at a later date if you choose to do so. Might be easier to talk your wife into that, since you don't want to sell--could be a win-win.
    Well the folks here can just look through my Flickr page.. There are enough pics to get an idea of the place.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/pcosmar/

    My best bet is an investor with cash in hand. but I may ask the neighbor if he is interested in it. His fields border my place. (and were once part of this property.)

    I don't have the resources to spruce it up to sell to the "average home-buyer",, but this place has a lot of potential on a number of tangents.

    A good place away from cities.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  9. #8
    Two tidbits:

    Never sell a home w/ a winter picture. Green grass sells.

    Check out United Country Reality, I've bought two country places through them; they deal w/ mostly rural property.


    Good luck man!

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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Two tidbits:

    Never sell a home w/ a winter picture. Green grass sells.

    Check out United Country Reality, I've bought two country places through them; they deal w/ mostly rural property.


    Good luck man!
    Truth in advertizing.





    I really don't wish to deal with a realtor. Places set for years here with realtor signs in front of them.

    Hence,,why I am posting it to this Marketplace.

    Make me an offer.

    Would consider including the Snowmobile.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 01-31-2015 at 09:46 AM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Are those silly questions? or are you serious?

    I am serious,, though I do not want to sell it at all.
    They are not silly questions.
    I am serious about some day owning a farm.
    I would like it to be sooner rather than later.
    I have not put serious thought into Michigan. My everything is in Virginia. If I moved to Michigan I might as well be moving to Argentina.

    They are serious questions. These are things I want to know prior to buying a farm.

    It seems like you're appealing to the non-realtor crowd, which is good, because realtors are (with exceptions) bloody idiots who stick to the 3x5 card of allowable opinion when it comes to what people want in a house. I'm going to bet that you don't have granite countertops, double showers, or any of the other real estate nonsense that's guaranteed to bring in a tide of people with more money than sense.

    It seems like you're targeting people who want a farm - that you want to make sure the farm goes to people who will keep it a farm.
    So sell a farm.
    You own a farm, and have for many years. You asked me if those are serious questions. Well if you were buying another farm, wouldn't you ask those same questions?

    Realtors have to play the numbers - they have to appeal to the people who don't really want farms, because they outnumber us like 30 to 1 at least. But there are still a whole lot of people who want farms, and they're frustrated as hell looking at real estate listings and only seeing things aimed at the other 30 people.

    Show pictures of your wood stoves. Talk about the well. Disclose your utility bills. Show any gardens or paddocks that already exist. Be frank about the problems. (People who want farms aren't buying them with the expectation of no maintenance.) Take detailed pictures of the shop - do stuff like point out the lighting in there and how many outlets are in it. Mrs Fisharmor would want to know the house is liveable - it doesn't have to be perfect, but it can't be a dive. She would want to know she can move in and stuff will work and she won't be grossed out. And if everything else I was looking at is perfect, I'd want to know how many late nights I"m going to be soldering plumbing joints to get it to the point where Mrs. Fisharmor would shut up about it.

    If it's perfect, I'd consider moving to the UP... but this post is unfortunately more to advise what I as a potential farm buyer would respond to, than an attempt at finding more info.
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    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

  13. #11
    Mrs. Fisharmor would not like it at all. It needs both some maintenance and repair. It is presently both livable and reasonably comfortable.
    If Mr.Scales was a capable handyman,, both repairs and custom adjustments could be made.

    Or,, the dilapidated mobile home could be removed and other manufactured housing could be put in it's place. it has it's own utility pole.
    The House could be turned into a business (Tourist farm).

    But that would all be up to the investor.

    The sign needs repainting.



    Or perhaps some that just likes their privacy.
    It is 1/4 mile from the highway to the house. and there is a place where you could set up a Range. (100-200 yd)
    Last edited by pcosmar; 01-31-2015 at 11:20 AM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  14. #12
    You are a good man Pete , I would not be able to bring myself to part with 20 acres .Best of luck to you.May as well start high , you can always come down .

  15. #13
    That's pretty darn cheap, I think. It's beautiful property from what I see of the pictures. I'd have to agree with oyarde in that it'd be tough to let it go like that.

    I sure wish I could do something with it. That's a steal.

  16. #14
    A more precise location would be the first bit of info I'd want to have.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzu View Post
    A more precise location would be the first bit of info I'd want to have.
    Good point,, I suppose that the directions I have posted over the years would require some search skill'

    Upper Peninsula Michigan,,Chippewa County,. South west of Sault Ste Marie. Brimley address south east of Brimley.(and the casinos) a few miles.

    North West of Dafter.

    Property fronts on M28. (main east/west trucking route)

    Last edited by pcosmar; 01-31-2015 at 05:42 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  18. #16
    pcosmar, I'm going to send you a link to what I'd do with the land if it were me. You'd make a freaking fortune.



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    pcosmar, I'm going to send you a link to what I'd do with the land if it were me. You'd make a freaking fortune.
    I am not interested in fortune.. (What I want for it is no fortune)
    I have no money for a gallon of paint,, and it needs more than one.

    I am offering it,, and it is a good property for a great many uses. I do not want to sell it.

    I just don't want to walk away and give it to the state for taxes.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  21. #18
    Oh lordy...don't let Mrs. AF see that.

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Mrs. Fisharmor would not like it at all. It needs both some maintenance and repair. It is presently both livable and reasonably comfortable.
    If Mr.Scales was a capable handyman,, both repairs and custom adjustments could be made.

    Or,, the dilapidated mobile home could be removed and other manufactured housing could be put in it's place. it has it's own utility pole.
    The House could be turned into a business (Tourist farm).

    But that would all be up to the investor.

    The sign needs repainting.



    Or perhaps some that just likes their privacy.
    It is 1/4 mile from the highway to the house. and there is a place where you could set up a Range. (100-200 yd)

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post

    I really don't wish to deal with a realtor. Places set for years here with realtor signs in front of them.
    Which is why you might want to take advise from some here. If you don't want to pay a realtor you must become a realtor.

    Unless you don't really want to sell. Which is understandable. It's a good place in a break down.

    However, it seems you are fighting your best wishes against those of your wife. Nothing wrong with that. You've not posted about where you might be headed to.

    I dunno, there is a lot of psychological make up in a move. Is it for her? Is it for both of you?

    Just seems like your fine there.

  23. #20
    Nice place.
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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post

    Just seems like your fine there.
    Yes and no. I had planned to live here and die here. I had hoped that there would have been some cooperative effort at turning this place into something.

    Things have not gone as planned.
    Where to go from here? No idea,,not a clue or a plan.

    stick out my thumb and see where it takes me.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Yes and no. I had planned to live here and die here. I had hoped that there would have been some cooperative effort at turning this place into something.

    Things have not gone as planned.
    Where to go from here? No idea,,not a clue or a plan.

    stick out my thumb and see where it takes me.
    Fair enough and thanks for being totally honest. You are one on these forums that are capable of being.

    So. Is the selling of this homestead a given. It is already decided?

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Fair enough and thanks for being totally honest. You are one on these forums that are capable of being.

    So. Is the selling of this homestead a given. It is already decided?
    Losing it is a given, selling it is a question.

    but hell,, I'm getting tired of splitting wood to stay warm anyway.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Losing it is a given, selling it is a question.

    but hell,, I'm getting tired of splitting wood to stay warm anyway.
    I've got too many questions that you might not want to share. See ya in P.M.



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I've got too many questions that you might not want to share. See ya in P.M.
    No problem,,

    I have been homeless before.

    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    It's all about Freedom

  30. #26
    can I grow weed there?
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by squarepusher View Post
    can I grow weed there?
    Indoors.

    Just kidding...danno will be along to tell you the strains you will need.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 02-01-2015 at 12:36 AM.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by squarepusher View Post
    can I grow weed there?
    A few plants if you have a card. otherwise roll the dice and take your chances.

    I haven't been.

    Hemp farming would give a few acres of a cash crop.. if it is ever legalized.

    There is a reason that everyone grows hay here. That is what grows here.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 02-01-2015 at 12:38 AM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  33. #29
    Pete, are you going to remain in the UP? I live below the bridge and was considering paying you a visit in the summer?
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  34. #30
    This thread gives me the sad. Praying for you, Pete
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