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    After Crying “Conspiracy Theory,” CNN Touts North American Union



    Just a few years ago, it was all a baseless “conspiracy theory.” Now, promotion of a European Union-style merger between the United States, Mexico, and Canada is being shouted from the rooftops — by U.S. taxpayer-funded globalists writing in the very same media outlet, CNN, that tried to ridicule GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul over the North American Union issue just a few years ago. Indeed, according to the recent opinion piece by two mid-level operatives for the “New America Foundation,” the future of the United States does not rest with the U.S. Constitution, “We the People,” or even the Supreme Court. Instead, it “lies in North America,” claimed New America’s Andrés Martinez and Daniel Kurtz-Phelan.


    “This is not a geographic truism, but a strategic imperative,” the duo argued. “The United States, Canada and Mexico are bound by a shared economic, environmental, demographic and cultural destiny.” In recognition of what they refer to as North America’s “shared destiny,” Martinez and Kurtz-Phelan propose the establishment of what they call a “North American passport.” The radical passport scheme would eventually facilitate the erasing of U.S. borders in exchange for “North American” borders — a plot that has been underway for years with the “Beyond the Border” initiative and other schemes. “Much like the EU passport,” the tax-funded globalists wrote, the new North American passport would ultimately allow citizens to “travel, work, invest, learn and innovate anywhere in North America.”

    Apparently, at least in the minds of globalists paid with Americans’ tax dollars, the economies of the United States, Mexico, and Canada are “far more integrated” than recognized by the current immigration system — or lack thereof, in light of Obama’s imperial decrees purporting to nullify U.S. immigration laws. So, phasing out U.S., Mexican, and Canadian passports and replacing them with a single North American one would merely serve to “align our laws with reality.” Of course, it is true that, thanks largely to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), U.S. sovereignty has already suffered a severe blow. Unelected North American “tribunals,” for instance, already purport to overrule state and federal laws enacted by the American people’s elected representatives. North American bureaucracies are proliferating, too.

    However, Martinez and Kurtz-Phelan claim to view the subversive attack on the independence of the American Republic as a positive development. NAFTA, they explained, “has created an integrated manufacturing platform and labor market.” But it must go much further, the “New America” duo argued, exploiting any conceivable pretext to eliminate self-government and national sovereignty. “This potential must be leveraged regionally, with cross-border infrastructure investments and environmental planning,” they wrote after discussing oil production in the “North American region.” Apparently, corruption-riddled and Big Government-plagued Mexico is America’s “lynchpin” to “relations with the countries of Central and South America.” So, they argued, give up your sovereignty and merge with Mexico!

    “The inception of NAFTA marked an important step toward leveraging these geographic realities for a shared North American success,” continued Martinez, who resigned from the Los Angeles Times amid a scandal, and Kurtz-Phelan, a former policy adviser on then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s staff. “But the promise of NAFTA has fallen short in a critical respect; while trade and investment have grown, the barriers to movement have remained too high for the people who help drive and stand to benefit from that growth.”

    Of course, both globalists know full well that the people of all three countries would overwhelmingly reject any such scheming — probably laughing them out of the room as kooks, if not seeking prosecutions for trying to surreptitiously subvert the independence of their own nations. So the people must be defied. “As evidenced by the recent political firestorm over President Obama's executive move to allow more undocumented workers to avoid deportation, it would take farsighted and courageous political leadership in all three countries to press for a North American passport,” they wrote, as if defying the Constitution, the oath of office to uphold it, and the will of the people somehow represented “courage” rather than lawlessness. In fact, they argued that abolishing the borders between the United States and its neighbors would “help alleviate our contentious domestic immigration battles.”

    The fact that the radical anti-sovereignty screed promoting deeper North American integration was published by CNN, though, is especially ironic. During the 2007 GOP presidential debates, CNN selected a question for Ron Paul asking him if he really believed in the “conspiracy theory” about ongoing efforts to build a North American Union. The effort to ridicule Paul backfired, big time, after he offered an excellent answer making the questioner look foolish. But the attempt did not go unnoticed. Some years later, official U.S. government documents from the embassy in Canada leaked by WikiLeaks revealed that long before that debate, top federal officials were working hard with their counterparts in Canada on plots to create a regional currency, subvert national constitutions, and eventually create a North American regime.

    More recently, after spending years dishonestly dismissing criticism of their machinations as “conspiracy theories,” top globalists have been much more open about the potentially treasonous plot. “After America comes North America,” disgraced former General and CIA boss David Petraeus said confidently last year in answering a question about what comes “after” the United States. “Are we on the threshold of the North American decade, question mark? I threw that away — threw away the question mark — and boldly proclaimed the coming North American decade, says the title now.” He also boasted about how the three economies have been put “together” over the last 20 years as part of the “implementation” of NAFTA. Globalist mouthpiece Henry Kissinger, meanwhile, recently outlined his vision of a “New World Order” that would first have to divide the globe up into regional regimes.

    While much of the scheming has come from the global government-promoting Council on Foreign Relations, the taxpayer-funded New America Foundation appears to be playing a growing role in pushing the outlandish plot. Google boss Eric Schmidt, whose search engine stands accused of increasingly working to hide alternative media voices that oppose “North America” scheming, serves as chairman of the foundation’s board of directors. The outfit’s top funding sources included unwitting American taxpayers, forced to contribute more than $1 million — potentially much more, the foundation does not say — in 2013 alone through the U.S. State Department. Various other federal agencies also contributed taxpayer dollars. Another top source of funding was the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, infamous for promoting abortion, population reduction, globalized and federalized education standards, and more. Bailed-out megabanks, globalist tax-exempt foundations (Rockefeller, Ford, Carnegie, and more), billionaire extremist George Soros, the World Bank, Big Media, various tax-funded universities, and other sources also finance the outfit.

    And as the name suggests, a “New America” is indeed what they are pushing for — a new America without self-government, individual rights, national sovereignty, or the principles upon which the old America was founded. Just consider the farewell address by America’s first president, George Washington. “It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world,” he told the young nation. Now, globalists are pushing not just for “permanent alliances,” but the outright surrender of U.S. independence to merge with “North America” and eventually, the world. The scheming has been underway for generations, mostly in the shadows. But, as the final phases approach, much of the agenda is now being touted openly in establishment media organs such as CNN and beyond.
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    Imagine that...we, tin-foil hat nuts were right, yet again.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Imagine that...we, tin-foil hat nuts were right, yet again.
    I dont wear a Tin Foil Hat, you have to use Aluminum cuz it is paramagnetic, unlike Tin! Sheesh!
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    So I should fire my psychiatrist after all these years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    So I should fire my psychiatrist after all these years?
    That wont help him as an individual. The best course of action is a very heavy daily dose of an appropriate SSRI, like POT.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    And all the truth deniers are nowhere to be found in this thread, of course. Cowards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt150 View Post
    And all the truth deniers are nowhere to be found in this thread, of course. Cowards.



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    This is the kind of thing Rand should sing from the highest mountain. He would begin to be able to call out the other elitist agendas with far less backlash.

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    Then lets add some fuel to the fire.

    Gulf of Tonkin (Vietnam) was also "just a Conspiracy Theory". Lusatania was a "Conspiracy Theory". JFK's assassination was "a Conspiracy Theory". Nixon's Watergate Scandal was the one that coined the term "Conspiracy Theory" where he accused Woodward and Bernstein for exposing the TRUTH, but until it was proven, it was "just a Conspiracy Theory". If you arent Paranoid, you arent paying attention. Truth is the Enemy of the State. Now, as far as Truth Deniers being nowhere to be found, this is also known as "Foot In Mouth Syndrome". They have nothing to say because they are unable to speak, literally "speechless". The real conspiracy is that the Truth Deniers are in a Conspiracy against themselves. One can not ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Then lets add some fuel to the fire.

    Gulf of Tonkin (Vietnam) was also "just a Conspiracy Theory". Lusatania was a "Conspiracy Theory". JFK's assassination was "a Conspiracy Theory". Nixon's Watergate Scandal was the one that coined the term "Conspiracy Theory" where he accused Woodward and Bernstein for exposing the TRUTH, but until it was proven, it was "just a Conspiracy Theory". If you arent Paranoid, you arent paying attention. Truth is the Enemy of the State. Now, as far as Truth Deniers being nowhere to be found, this is also known as "Foot In Mouth Syndrome". They have nothing to say because they are unable to speak, literally "speechless". The real conspiracy is that the Truth Deniers are in a Conspiracy against themselves. One can not ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
    Conspiracies are commonplace on this planet. You can't separate human beings from conspiratorial behavior. When the wife embarks on an extramarital affair with the milkman. Conspiracy. When your son ignores his curfew and escapes out the back window. Conspiracy. Just think about the all underhanded events that we see go on locally. Now multiply these trivial events by 1000 when real money and power is involved.

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    Let's revisit the word conspiracy.

    con·spir·a·cy
    kənˈspirəsē/Submit
    noun
    a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
    Now why would a group with unsavory motives attempt to do something unlawful or harmful out in the open? Does that make any sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    So I should fire my psychiatrist after all these years?
    Sure..
    Hiring one would be a first mistake.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt150 View Post
    And all the truth deniers are nowhere to be found in this thread, of course. Cowards.
    Make a mental note of who does not respond to this,, and who does, and how.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    the foremost authority on conspiracy theories...

    http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-The...tag=wburorg-20


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    Y'all conspiracy theorists are worrisome, what other crimes will you be theorizing next? Murder? robbery???
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    I dont wear a Tin Foil Hat, you have to use Aluminum cuz it is paramagnetic, unlike Tin! Sheesh!
    But you can get a good deal on tin foil:
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    But you can get a good deal on tin foil:
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    I'm worried about toxins...
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    “The United States, Canada and Mexico are bound by a shared economic, environmental, demographic and cultural destiny.”


    What a bunch of pure, unadulterated bull$#@!. There is a massive gulf between the Mexico and the US is every one of those categories. It amazes me that people can look at obvious facts and just claim the world is just the opposite. I'd be most worried if I was Canadian, getting saddled with the dead weight that is the US and Mexico would be a disaster for them.

    How can people look at the corruption and crime in Mexico and desire political union with them is beyond me. Mexico is just one or two steps out of the third world for $#@!'s sake. Does the EU need to completely collapse for people to realize it was never a "common market" and never a good idea?

    Still though, despite the insane rantings of two CNN journalists, I don't see this as something imminent, not yet at least. If it is on the horizon, the open-border zealots are going to only hasten its arrival-and that includes many conventional libertarians. It's one thing to want open borders in a theoretical future libertarian society (I don't want that under any circumstances though), it's quite another to advocate for that today and push for such legislation as part of the libertarian cause. If you like the globalist $#@!s that run things, want the movement to be co-opted and don't mind being their useful idiots, keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post

    What a bunch of pure, unadulterated bull$#@!. There is a massive gulf between the Mexico and the US is every one of those categories. It amazes me that people can look at obvious facts and just claim the world is just the opposite. I'd be most worried if I was Canadian, getting saddled with the dead weight that is the US and Mexico would be a disaster for them.

    How can people look at the corruption and crime in Mexico and desire political union with them is beyond me. Mexico is just one or two steps out of the third world for $#@!'s sake. Does the EU need to completely collapse for people to realize it was never a "common market" and never a good idea?

    Still though, despite the insane rantings of two CNN journalists, I don't see this as something imminent, not yet at least. If it is on the horizon, the open-border zealots are going to only hasten its arrival-and that includes many conventional libertarians. It's one thing to want open borders in a theoretical future libertarian society (I don't want that under any circumstances though), it's quite another to advocate for that today and push for such legislation as part of the libertarian cause. If you like the globalist $#@!s that run things, want the movement to be co-opted and don't mind being their useful idiots, keep it up.
    Mexico is basically where the U.S. will be in 10 to 20 years. I can totally understand why CNN wants to accelerate the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt150 View Post
    And all the truth deniers are nowhere to be found in this thread, of course. Cowards.
    Honestly, has any regular poster around here ever denied the NAU? I thought that one was completely a given around here.

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    the foremost authority on conspiracy theories...

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    Hee hee. 11 one-star reviews out of 17.

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    If you took the fools in Mexico and Canada and add them to our fools, you could theoretically burn the remainder of the constitution.



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    Indeed, according to the recent opinion piece by two mid-level operatives for the “New America Foundation,” the future of the United States does not rest with the U.S. Constitution, “We the People,” or even the Supreme Court. Instead, it “lies in North America,” claimed New America’s Andrés Martinez and Daniel Kurtz-Phelan.
    Gotta love it when two people from demographics that combined make up barely 15% of the entire US population (hispanic and jewish) are claiming authority to decide for the other 85% where their future resides.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Mexico is basically where the U.S. will be in 10 to 20 years. I can totally understand why CNN wants to accelerate the process.
    Because of open immigration and the drug war, that may be true. Not everywhere in the US, there'll still be enclaves that are mostly native. The entire Southwest is doomed unless there is some serious policy change on immigration. It's going to get real ugly, and if libertarians don't rethink the idealistic dogma on borders, the movement is going to be partly culpable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    Because of open immigration and the drug war, that may be true. Not everywhere in the US, there'll still be enclaves that are mostly native. The entire Southwest is doomed unless there is some serious policy change on immigration. It's going to get real ugly, and if libertarians don't rethink the idealistic dogma on borders, the movement is going to be partly culpable.
    I was referring to the level of corruption primarily but I agree with your analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Gotta love it when two people from demographics that combined make up barely 15% of the entire US population (hispanic and jewish) are claiming authority to decide for the other 85% where their future resides.
    Hispanics alone make up 17%, and they're going to be a lot more in twenty years if policy doesn't change. They know they're going to be a very important voter demographic, and eventually, a majority, and they make no bones about it. Go to a La Raza rally if you want to see America's future. It's very chilling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    Hispanics alone make up 17%, and they're going to be a lot more in twenty years if policy doesn't change. They know they're going to be a very important voter demographic, and eventually, a majority, and they make no bones about it. Go to a La Raza rally if you want to see America's future. It's very chilling.
    I don't mind hispanics. I just wish they weren't progressive zombies. But all the polls say otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I don't mind hispanics. I just wish they weren't progressive zombies. But all the polls say otherwise.
    Same, but the political ideology that many of them share should be reason enough to at least implement an extremely strict immigration policy towards all. Allowing a constant stream of immigrants from Mexico and Latin America to enter the United States, who will more than likely vote Democrat, is just asking for our country to fall into the abyss. Yes, both parties are awful, but the Democrats are by far the worst, and they'll only get worse as the SJWs enter their political ranks. The Democrats will only get worse with time, whilst the GOP might only get better with time if the pieces fall into place.

    It's pretty ironic how the open borders crowd constantly claim for liberty and the like, but have no problem with allowing anti-liberty voters to constantly stream through the southern border. Pragmatism instead of dogmatism is your friend here.

    Now would be an ideal time for a real nationalist movement to rise up and crush all of those who believe in ideas like the North American Union.

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