Valley doctor: Don't vaccinate your kids

[donnay]

Valley doctor: Don't vaccinate your kids

Dr. Jack Wolfson believes there are lifestyle changes you should make instead of vaccinating.

Despite a recent measles outbreak in California, a Valley doctor believes children should not get vaccinated and that they should be getting this kind of infection.

"We should be getting measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, these are the rights of our children to get it," said Dr. Jack Wolfson of Wolfson Integrative Cardiology in Paradise Valley.

Wolfson does not believe in vaccination. "We do not need to inject chemicals into ourselves and into our children in order to boost our immune system," he said.

The cardiologist also believes the key is to have a healthy immune system. In order to have that, he says, you have to avoid chemicals, get enough sleep, exercise, take good supplements, and have proper nutrition.

"I'm a big fan of what's called paleo-nutrition, so our children eat foods that our ancestors have been eating for millions of years," he said. "That's the best way to protect."

However, many doctors disagree. They believe it's important for children to get vaccinated, especially when the measles is among the most infectious viruses.

"The person is infectious about four days before their rash starts until about four days after," said Dr. David Engelthaler with medical research firm T-Gen North. "So there's about an eight-day window."

Doctors also say measles can float in the air for up to two hours after an infected person leaves the area.

For those reasons, Engelthaler says people who haven't been vaccinated are more at risk.

"The problem is we've been seeing a decrease in the use of vaccines," he said.

But both doctors agree that the measles infection, once caught, is not likely to turn deadly.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...nate/22200535/

[donnay]

Arizona Cardiologist Responds to Critics Regarding Measles and Vaccines

Why All the Anger?

by Dr. Jack Wolfson
Special to Health Impact News

I recently did an interview which was aired on NBC Phoenix. I was asked my opinion on vaccinations in response to the current measles outbreaks that have occurred at Disneyland in California. My reply has generated quite a bit of anger in thousands of people.

There has also been a tremendous amount of support to my comments and opinions. In short, The Society Against Injecting Our Kids With Chemicals (TSAIOKWC for short) has a lot of followers.

I want to address all this misguided anger and see if we can re-direct it where it belongs.

Be angry at food companies. Sugar cereals, donuts, cookies, and cupcakes lead to millions of deaths per year. At its worst, chicken pox killed 100 people per year. If those chicken pox people didn’t eat cereal and donuts, they may still be alive. Call up Nabisco and Kellogg’s and complain. Protest their products. Send THEM hate-mail.
Be angry at fast food restaurants. Tortured meat burgers, pesticide fries, and hormone milkshakes are the problem. The problem is not Hepatitis B which is a virus contracted by drug users and those who sleep with prostitutes. And you want to inject that vaccine into your newborn?
Be angry at the companies who make your toxic laundry detergent, fabric softener, and dryer sheets. You and your children are wearing and breathing known carcinogens (they cause cancer). Call Bounce and Downy and let them know. These products kill more people than mumps, a virus which actually doesn’t cause anyone to die. Same with hepatitis A, a watery diarrhea.
Be angry at all the companies spewing pollution into our environment. These chemicals and heavy metals are known to cause autism, heart disease, cancer, autoimmune disease and every other health problem. Worldwide, these lead to 10’s of millions of deaths every year. Measles deaths are a tiny fraction compared to pollution.
Be angry at your parents for not breastfeeding you, co-sleeping with you, and stuffing your face with Domino’s so they can buy more Tide and finish the laundry. Breastfeeding protects your children from many infectious diseases.
Be angry with your doctor for being close-minded and not disclosing the ingredients in vaccines (not that they read the package insert anyway). They should tell you about the aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, aborted fetal tissue, animal proteins, polysorbate 80, antibiotics, and other chemicals in the shots. According to the Environmental Working Group, newborns contain over 200 chemicals as detected by cord blood. Maybe your doctor feels a few more chemicals injected into your child won’t be a big deal.
Be angry with the cable companies and TV manufacturers for making you and your children fat and lazy, not wanting to exercise or play outside. Lack of exercise kills millions more than polio. Where are all those 80 year olds crippled by polio? I can’t seem to find many.
In fact, be angry with Steve Jobs and Bill Gates for creating computers so you can sit around all day blasted with electromagnetic radiation reading posts like this.
Be angry with pharmaceutical companies for allowing us to believe living the above life can be treated with drugs. Correctly prescribed drugs kill thousands of people per year. The flu kills just about no one. The vaccine never works.

Finally, be angry with yourself for not opening your eyes to the snow job and brainwashing which have taken over your mind. You NEVER asked the doctor any questions. You NEVER asked what is in the vaccines. You NEVER learned about these benign infections.

Let’s face it, you don’t really give a crap what your children eat. You don’t care about chemicals in their life. You don’t care if they sit around all day watching the TV or playing video games.

All you care about is drinking your Starbuck’s, your next plastic surgery, your next cocktail, your next affair, and your next sugar fix!

This post was created with love and with the idea of creating a better world for our children and future generations. Anger increases your risk of suffering a heart attack. Be careful.

About the Author

Dr. Jack Wolfson is a board certified cardiologist in Phoenix. He is known as The Paleo Cardiologist and The Natural Cardiologist. Check out his website TheDrsWolfson.com and follow him on Facebook at The Drs. Wolfson.

http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/arizon....nZ3EDCSZ.dpuf

[Natural Citizen]

Arizona Cardiologist Responds to Critics Regarding Measles and Vaccines

Why All the Anger?

by Dr. Jack Wolfson
Special to Health Impact News

I recently did an interview which was aired on NBC Phoenix. I was asked my opinion on vaccinations in response to the current measles outbreaks that have occurred at Disneyland in California. My reply has generated quite a bit of anger in thousands of people.

There has also been a tremendous amount of support to my comments and opinions. In short, The Society Against Injecting Our Kids With Chemicals (TSAIOKWC for short) has a lot of followers.

I want to address all this misguided anger and see if we can re-direct it where it belongs.

Be angry at food companies. Sugar cereals, donuts, cookies, and cupcakes lead to millions of deaths per year. At its worst, chicken pox killed 100 people per year. If those chicken pox people didn’t eat cereal and donuts, they may still be alive. Call up Nabisco and Kellogg’s and complain. Protest their products. Send THEM hate-mail.

Be angry at fast food restaurants. Tortured meat burgers, pesticide fries, and hormone milkshakes are the problem. The problem is not Hepatitis B which is a virus contracted by drug users and those who sleep with prostitutes. And you want to inject that vaccine into your newborn?

Be angry at the companies who make your toxic laundry detergent, fabric softener, and dryer sheets. You and your children are wearing and breathing known carcinogens (they cause cancer). Call Bounce and Downy and let them know. These products kill more people than mumps, a virus which actually doesn’t cause anyone to die. Same with hepatitis A, a watery diarrhea.

Be angry at all the companies spewing pollution into our environment. These chemicals and heavy metals are known to cause autism, heart disease, cancer, autoimmune disease and every other health problem. Worldwide, these lead to 10’s of millions of deaths every year. Measles deaths are a tiny fraction compared to pollution.

Be angry at your parents for not breastfeeding you, co-sleeping with you, and stuffing your face with Domino’s so they can buy more Tide and finish the laundry. Breastfeeding protects your children from many infectious diseases.

Be angry with your doctor for being close-minded and not disclosing the ingredients in vaccines (not that they read the package insert anyway). They should tell you about the aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, aborted fetal tissue, animal proteins, polysorbate 80, antibiotics, and other chemicals in the shots. According to the Environmental Working Group, newborns contain over 200 chemicals as detected by cord blood. Maybe your doctor feels a few more chemicals injected into your child won’t be a big deal.

Be angry with the cable companies and TV manufacturers for making you and your children fat and lazy, not wanting to exercise or play outside. Lack of exercise kills millions more than polio. Where are all those 80 year olds crippled by polio? I can’t seem to find many.

In fact, be angry with Steve Jobs and Bill Gates for creating computers so you can sit around all day blasted with electromagnetic radiation reading posts like this.

Be angry with pharmaceutical companies for allowing us to believe living the above life can be treated with drugs. Correctly prescribed drugs kill thousands of people per year. The flu kills just about no one. The vaccine never works.

Finally, be angry with yourself for not opening your eyes to the snow job and brainwashing which have taken over your mind. You NEVER asked the doctor any questions. You NEVER asked what is in the vaccines. You NEVER learned about these benign infections.

Let’s face it, you don’t really give a crap what your children eat. You don’t care about chemicals in their life. You don’t care if they sit around all day watching the TV or playing video games.

All you care about is drinking your Starbuck’s, your next plastic surgery, your next cocktail, your next affair, and your next sugar fix!

This post was created with love and with the idea of creating a better world for our children and future generations. Anger increases your risk of suffering a heart attack. Be careful.

About the Author

Dr. Jack Wolfson is a board certified cardiologist in Phoenix. He is known as The Paleo Cardiologist and The Natural Cardiologist. Check out his website TheDrsWolfson.com and follow him on Facebook at The Drs. Wolfson.

http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/arizon....nZ3EDCSZ.dpuf

That's probably one of the most honest pieces that I've ever read on these boards. And sooooo many times I've thought almost identically to what is shared here but just didn't feel like wasting the keystrokes.

I imagine that a great deal of the sudden political push for forced vaccination and fear porn comes from these very industries. It isn't ironic that so many Internet minions have suddenly begun to push and spread it.

One thing that he left out, though, was to maybe consider asking the so called elected representatives of the people what their position is on science itself before they go legislating forced vaccination instead of sitting in front of the boob tube and cheerleading them on while they use the podium to stand up there and chug big gulps. The practice of vaccination is quickly becoming obsolete as new technology to combat viruses across the board evolves. But any subsequent laws will stay on the books.

[angelatc]

He is a holoistic quack looking to cash in on the idiocy that the anti-vaxxers and the paleo-eaters peddle. He has zero evidence to support his nonsense. But we all know that everythig (mod edit)

[Working Poor]

Thanks Donnay I think I will spread this in my social bookmarikng. I found this article at the same site that I am spreading thru my network as well:

Dr. Andrew Moulden: Learning to Identify Vaccine Damage

[Acala]

He is a holoistic quack looking to cash in on the idiocy that the anti-vaxxers and the paleo-eaters peddle. He has zero evidence to support his nonsense. But we all know that everythig DonnaY posts is a lie.

Are you really suggesting that diet and lifestyle have no impact on the functionality of the human immune system?

[jllundqu]

Are you really suggesting that diet and lifestyle have no impact on the functionality of the human immune system?

Dangit Acala! I block Angelatc's posts for a reason! Now you go and quote her so I'm FORCED to read her venom.... sheesh

[PaulConventionWV]

He is a holoistic quack looking to cash in on the idiocy that the anti-vaxxers and the paleo-eaters peddle. He has zero evidence to support his nonsense. But we all know that everythig DonnaY posts is a lie.

Sure we do. Just keep telling yourself that everyone is on your side as you stand forsaken by greater minds.

[Chester Copperpot]

He is a holoistic quack looking to cash in on the idiocy that the anti-vaxxers and the paleo-eaters peddle. He has zero evidence to support his nonsense. But we all know that everythig DonnaY posts is a lie.

Do you really believe the limited mind of man is superior to the wisdom of Nature????

[Chester Copperpot]

That's probably one of the most honest pieces that I've ever read on these boards. And sooooo many times I've thought almost identically to what is shared here but just didn't feel like wasting the keystrokes.

I imagine that a great deal of the sudden political push for forced vaccination and fear porn comes from these very industries. It isn't ironic that so many Internet minions have suddenly begun to push and spread it.

One thing that he left out, though, was to maybe consider asking the so called elected representatives of the people what their position is on science itself before they go legislating forced vaccination instead of sitting in front of the boob tube and cheerleading them on while they use the podium to stand up there and chug big gulps. The practice of vaccination is quickly becoming obsolete as new technology to combat viruses across the board evolves. But any subsequent laws will stay on the books.

I agree.

I thought it was such an awesome rant i went to his facebook page and sent him a message telling him so.

[angelatc]

Are you really suggesting that diet and lifestyle have no impact on the functionality of the human immune system?

I a not suggesting anything. I am flat out stating that there is absolutely zero evidence to indicate that "diet and lifestyle" have any effect at all on the transmission of any of the diseases he specifically mentioned.

Vaccines work. The dangers of getting the vaccines are literally infinitesimal compared to the dangers of getting the diseases. He is a sick bastard, and the unsubstantiated opinion he is giving can literally kill people - mostly babies. He is a vile piece of human trash preying on the paranoid delusions of the stupidest people on the planet.

Did that clear my position up for ya?

[angelatc]

Do you really believe the limited mind of man is superior to the wisdom of Nature????

I don't think that nature (small n) is especially wise. I believe that God specifically gave us dominion over nature and He gives us knowledge to combat the evils that Satan has unleashed on the world.

People like (DonnaY) are his tools. They are spreading evil and uncleanliness.

[donnay]

Phoenix Integrative Cardiologist – Dr. Jack Wolfson

Brainwashed! That was how I spent the first 35 years of my life. Words like organic and natural were not in my vocabulary, certainly not relating to health. Nutrition was deemed worthless, vitamins were quackery, and drugs and surgery were healing. I actually believed (as many docs do) that statin drugs should be in the water supply. But as you will read below, I transformed from a doctor who follows mindless, cookbook medicine to one who will be amongst the leaders of the health revolution in this country.

I was born in Cleveland where my father was the first osteopathic resident at the Cleveland Clinic. My family moved to Chicago and lived there until age 31. I attended the University of Illinois for my undergraduate degree and then, following in my father’s footsteps, spent four years at the Chicago College of Osteopathic Medicine for my D.O. degree. A three year internal medicine residency then a three year cardiology fellowship followed at Lutheran General Hospital in Park Ridge, Illinois while serving as Chief Fellow in my final year. I am board certified in cardiology and was admitted as a Fellow to the American College of Cardiology (FACC) in 2002.

In 2002, I moved to Arizona and joined a large cardiology group. My first few years, I practiced like any other cardiologist, consulting with office patients and making hospital rounds. Procedures such as heart catheterization, implanting pacemakers, and interpreting echocardiograms and nuclear stress tests was my daily routine. I served as the Chairman of the Department of Medicine at Paradise Valley Hospital and also as the Director of Cardiac Rehabilitation. In four years, I achieved partner status with the large cardiology group and was a very successful conventional cardiologist.

As time passed, I was growing frustrated that despite all the pharmaceuticals and procedures, many patients were feeling worse. Patients were discharged from the hospital only to return to the ER shortly because doctors are not healing anyone. The realization hit me that medical doctors were not preventing disease but only attempting to treat symptoms.

In 2004, I met the most amazing woman who would soon become my wife. Heather is a chiropractor and has a heavy focus on nutrition and healthy, chemical free living. Since meeting her, I have changed my whole life and medical practice style. I have switched from the sickness paradigm to one of health and wellness. I read countless books, studied hundreds of articles, and attended as many conferences as possible. I met with natural doctors including chiropractors, homeopaths,naturopaths and different types of healers (at which most medical docs would scoff). I immersed myself in the natural lifestyle. Most importantly, I opened my mind from the brainwashing of medical training. My explicit goal in treating patients is finding the cause of disease instead of using the band-aid approach. The CAUSE is the CURE.

In 2012, I decided to leave the large cardiology group and open Wolfson Integrative Cardiology.

Heather and I have two beautiful, healthy boys, Noah and Brody, and our rescue Lab mix, Sal. Our sons were born at home with a midwife. Neither have ever taken a pharmaceutical, prescribed or OTC. We practice attachment parenting, eat organic food, and instill a natural lifestyle into our children. We enjoy all the outdoor activities available in Phoenix. Heather and I together are The Drs. Wolfson and our motto is “Awakening the World to Wellness”.

http://wolfsonintegrativecardiology.....UStlARgy.dpuf

[jllundqu]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to donnay again.

[William Tell]

But we all know that everythig DonnaY posts is a lie.

Typo aside, I don't think there is a single person on this site besides you who thinks that.

[Acala]

I a not suggesting anything. I am flat out stating that there is absolutely zero evidence to indicate that "diet and lifestyle" have any effect at all on the transmission of any of the diseases he specifically mentioned.

Vaccines work. The dangers of getting the vaccines are literally infinitesimal compared to the dangers of getting the diseases. He is a sick bastard, and the unsubstantiated opinion he is giving can literally kill people - mostly babies. He is a vile piece of human trash preying on the paranoid delusions of the stupidest people on the planet.

Did that clear my position up for ya?

Hopefully you agree that immune function is involved in fending off disease? After all, the whole purpose of vaccination is to prime the immune system to respond to specific antigens. immunization doesn't work without a healthy immune system.

The science is clear that human immune function is altered in measurable ways under the influence of some of the factors he mentions including sleep, exercise, stress, and diet. It isn't even a matter of debate there. Some other things he mentions are not so well supported - like exposure to electromagnetic fields and fabric softner.

However, it certainly IS a matter of debate whether such lifestyle changes are an adequate replacement for immunization. and I suppose that is what is driving your posts here. I would probably be on your side in that debate (at least for some immunization).

[angelatc]

Hopefully you agree that immune function is involved in fending off disease? After all, the whole purpose of vaccination is to prime the immune system to respond to specific antigens. immunization doesn't work without a healthy immune system.

Of course. Even the anti's agree with that. But they entirely fabricate their next talking point, which is that getting the disease "naturally" somehow provides a superior immunity. That's simply not true. It is something they literally just made up and it is unsupported by anything resembling data or evidence.

The science is clear that human immune function is altered in measurable ways under the influence of some of the factors he mentions including sleep, exercise, stress, and diet. It isn't even a matter of debate there. Some other things he mentions are not so well supported - like exposure to electromagnetic fields and fabric softner.

However, it certainly IS a matter of debate whether such lifestyle changes are an adequate replacement for immunization. and I suppose that is what is driving your posts here. I would probably be on your side in that debate (at least for some immunization).

There is no debate to be had: There is absolutely no evidence to support his contention that "eating better" will prevent you from catching the diseases he mentioned. Even if there was a shred of truth in it - if you ate an entirely organic diet and were healthier as a result, you'd still be spending thousands of dollars for "premium" food every year instead of taking a $30 shot. And people in developing nations? They'd be simply screwed with that particular "Western" feel good nonsensical liberal noise.


Math is hard, but it is also math, and mathematically, vaccines are by far the most effective method or preventing these diseases. We could literally wipe them off the planet in a single generation if the whole world suddenly decided that was the goal. That won't happen with a global plan controlling diet and exercise and indoor plumbing. It will only happen with aggressive vaccine programs in place across the globe

And yet another issue - even if you have a great immune system, and the measles only makes you sick, you're still a carrier. The people most likely to get sick and die are infants, who haven't yet had an opportunity to exercise their immune system and are too young to get the shot.

That's why hearing this jerk use words like "benign" irritates me. There's nobody that disputes that measles can result in brain damage, deafness, miscarriages, and other assorted side effects, and that's in addition to just making people sick for a while. It isn't "benign" - it costs lives, it costs health, and it costs money. Parents with sick kids miss work. In this economy that can mean the difference between eating healthy or living on PB&J for another week.

And then in the next breath he moans that "we don't know!" what's in the vaccines and what it does to our bodies...despite the fact that those very things have been studied for about a century now. Granted, we don't know everything, but we do know that we are much healthier with vaccines than we were without them.

There is literally no evidence to support this MDs claims. He's just attention-whoring. I am sure his book will be out soon.

[donnay]

Thanks Donnay I think I will spread this in my social bookmarikng. I found this article at the same site that I am spreading thru my network as well:

Dr. Andrew Moulden: Learning to Identify Vaccine Damage

You're welcome. I am just glad to see some doctors stepping out of the box and thinking for themselves. He is very courageous to stand up to the mind-numbed, brainwashed crowds.

[donnay]

Hopefully you agree that immune function is involved in fending off disease? After all, the whole purpose of vaccination is to prime the immune system to respond to specific antigens. immunization doesn't work without a healthy immune system.

The science is clear that human immune function is altered in measurable ways under the influence of some of the factors he mentions including sleep, exercise, stress, and diet. It isn't even a matter of debate there. Some other things he mentions are not so well supported - like exposure to electromagnetic fields and fabric softner.

However, it certainly IS a matter of debate whether such lifestyle changes are an adequate replacement for immunization. and I suppose that is what is driving your posts here. I would probably be on your side in that debate (at least for some immunization).

Dryer Sheets
Are you living in a cloud of chemicals?

The organic craze has been sweeping the country for years. Many supermarkets are catering to our desire for pesticide-free produce.

But there is something very ominous that millions of people use every day which may be even MORE harmful than toxic veggies….dryer sheets.

The Facebook page of Bounce has over 500,000 likes! So sad for all those people, given the chemicals in Bounce likely increase the risk of heart disease, brain disorders like dementia and Parkinson’s, and cancer.

Our family lives in a community where the houses are pretty close to one another. Through the dryer exhaust pipe to the outdoors, we are exposed to our neighbors laundry smell. This is pure environmental pollution and NO ONE CARES.

There is no study proving Bounce and others directly cause cancer. There is also no study which proves the sky is blue or touching fire hurts. It is just obvious.

Fabric softeners like Downy also contain a load of dangerous chemicals.

When I am out on a trail run, nothing sickens me like the smell of another person’s clothing. In our quest to smell clean, we have turned to a thin, synthetic sheet loaded with chemicals. Even the fragrance-free products are full of chemicals linked to disease.

Ingredients are not listed on the box. Opposite of food labeling, there is no federal requirement for this information. This is governed by the

Consumer Products Safety Commision.

But wait, there is evidence these products are poisonous.

A survey of selected consumer goods showed the products emitted more than 100 volatile organic compounds (VOCs), including some that are classified as toxic or hazardous by the Environmental Protection Agency. Even products advertised as “green,” “natural,” or “organic” emitted hazardous chemicals.

Anne Steinemann and colleagues at the University of Washington, analyzed VOC’s given off by air fresheners, laundry detergents, fabric softeners, dryer sheets, disinfectants, dish detergents, all-purpose cleaners, soaps, hand sanitizers, lotions, deodorants, and shampoos.

Many of the products tested are top sellers in their category.

The researchers detected 133 different chemicals, half of which are known to cause CANCER.

An excellent read on this subject a book titled The Brain Wash.

A recent study found women who work in hair salons have higher levels of inflammation, evidence of oxidation damage, and lower heart rate variability. All of these are associated with a higher risk of heart disease.

Women who use household sprays (deodorizers etc.) have lower heart rate variability. Without getting all technical about this measurement, just understand this carries a higher risk of death from heart causes.

Volatile organic compounds (VOC’s) increase inflammation. The more inflammation, the higher your risk of heart disease.

http://wolfsonintegrativecardiology.....GzuOT4fn.dpuf

[Acala]

[There is no study proving Bounce and others directly cause cancer. There is also no study which proves the sky is blue or touching fire hurts. It is just obvious.

This is not science. This is superstition.

[Natural Citizen]

This is not science. This is superstition.

Perhaps. But does that mean that questions with regard to the subject shouldn't be asked? The very nature of science demands that we must always continue to question more.

[donnay]

This is not science. This is superstition.

Oh so you do not agree with his last statement?

"Volatile organic compounds (VOC’s) increase inflammation. The more inflammation, the higher your risk of heart disease."

[Acala]

Perhaps. But does that mean that questions with regard to the subject shouldn't be asked? The very nature of science demands that we must always continue to question more.

Of course not. Questions should be asked and experiments should be done.

[Acala]

Oh so you do not agree with his last statement?

"Volatile organic compounds (VOC’s) increase inflammation. The more inflammation, the higher your risk of heart disease."

There are MANY volatile organic compounds. Some probably cause inflammation. Others don't. For example, ethanol and acetone are volatile organic compounds. I am not aware that they cause inflammation. Part of the problem with this kind of article is that it lumps together all "chemicals" as bad and that is useless. People need to get specific with names of chemical compounds and research showing effects.

[donnay]

There are MANY volatile organic compounds. Some probably cause inflammation. Others don't. For example, ethanol and acetone are volatile organic compounds. I am not aware that they cause inflammation. Part of the problem with this kind of article is that it lumps together all "chemicals" as bad and that is useless. People need to get specific with names of chemical compounds and research showing effects.

Scented laundry products release carcinogens, study finds
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/scented-...s-study-finds/

Dryer Vent: The Household Appliance that Releases 600 Potentially Dangerous Chemicals into the Air
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...ryer-vent.aspx


Article Summary—Chemical Emissions from Residential Dryer Vents During Use of Fragranced Laundry Products
The researchers analyzed emissions from two residential dyer vents during the use of fragranced laundry products (detergents and dryer sheets).

What did the researchers discover?

More than 25 VOCs were emitted from the dryer vents.

Seven of these VOCs are classified as hazardous air pollutants (HAPs), and two as carcinogenic HAPs (acetaldehyde and benzene) with no safe exposure level, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

Acetaldehyde emissions during use of one brand of laundry detergent would represent 3% of total acetaldehyde emissions from automobiles in the study area.

Virtually none of the VOCs identified in the analysis of the products were listed on the product label or the product MSDS.

Thus, consumers may not be aware of potentially hazardous chemicals emitted from dryer vents.

http://www.drsteinemann.com/dryer_emissions.html

[Natural Citizen]

Of course not. Questions should be asked and experiments should be done.

I assumed that you'd agree with that. Probably wasn't so much of a question as it was just thinking out loud.

But getting back to vaccination, as research produces new technologies relative to handling virus as a whole, traditional means of vaccination will become obsolete. It's just a fact. But this is something that we never hear or read about from the entities who use the fear tactic to solicit acceptance of government force of those products upon the people as a collective whole. It's basically forcing demand by way of government for products.

The problem that I have, and angela is a prime example of the phenomenon, is the fear porn and personal attacks that are spread all over social media in order to generate a desired government/industry (mercantilist) involved outcome. And I think that a lot of that comes from industry and the folks who are simply invested in various food and pharmaceutical products. I think they're just trying to protect their financial interests by way of government force more than anything. And it is a shame because we are starting to see children literally being placed on house arrest by government officials if they have been been said to have been in contact with people in the general public who are the target of these industries and investors. The unvaccinated. The people who doubt a specific product's function. We're beginning to see employers demand blood samples and being put on leave if they don't comply. And a host of other very overreaching moves. And these products are becoming obsolete, as I said. But yet we see industry and government fuel panic through social media and corporate/legacy media in order to simply generate enough panic to be able to force these products upon people. Products that are unproven as well as becoming obsolete.

I had referenced some recent research that is coming into fruition that act as a universal cure/"vaccination" in another thread... http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ghlight=dracos

I think that instead of debating over a sort of hegelian dialectic kind of meme like we usually see from the poeple/entities who use fear and social media to generate a willingness for people to accept government/industry force of both the products and intrusion in general that we should maybe ask about some of these developing technologies and perhaps elevate the terms of controversy in a relevant way.

To continue debating over a prescribed "problem" isn't helpful in my view.

I'd add that the fear porn has been elevated to concerns over unvaccinated people coming from foreign nations now. I suppose that next we'll have homeland security involves with the campaign. Problem.Reaction.Solution.

[dannno]

For dryer sheets, I just get a giant bottle of lavender essential oil, cut up an old white cotton shirt and make 2 or 3 ~4"x4" squares and then drop 3-5 drops of lavender essential oil on one of the squares and use that as a dryer sheet. Add 3-5 drops of essential oil back to the cotton square for each dryer load. Keep the other squares as backups.

For laundry detergent I use a 1/2 cup of Borax and 1/2 cup of arm and hammer super washing soda and about 1/3 of a grated bar of soap. Mix well, store in an air tight container and you only need 2-4 tbs per load.

Then for fabric softener, I use about 1/4 cup of white vinegar and 3-5 drops of lavender essential oil.

[Natural Citizen]

There is no debate to be had: There is absolutely no evidence to support his contention that "eating better" will prevent you from catching the diseases he mentioned. Even if there was a shred of truth in it - if you ate an entirely organic diet and were healthier as a result, you'd still be spending thousands of dollars for "premium" food every year instead of taking a $30 shot.

Hm. I think that you're completely wrong about diet and its relevance to the immune system. Please share a link to any sources that would support your claim.

Aside from that, if I want to spend more on healthy food in order to maintain a healthy immune system and not spend the 30 dollars on your product then this is my choice. Now...it seems to me that you may be endorsing government force in order to make sure that people consume the product that you are endorsing here. That being the shot. What that is is just promoting the phenomenon of an industry using government in order to help these industries force their products on people to then protect themselves from a free market. That's mercantilism. Of course, for your part its only an Internet campaign by way of social media and that kind of thing to promote fear in a way that a hegelian government solution may be offered. I get that.

Since many of the current vaccinations aren't even able to fend off disease I'm just going to reference them as products from now on.

That's probably a better way to argue it given the development of newer technologies to approach virus.

[donnay]

Hm. I think that you're completely wrong about diet and its relevance to the immune system. Please share a link to any sources that would support your claim.

Aside from that, if I want to spend more on healthy food in order to maintain a healthy immune system and not spend the 30 dollars on your product then this is my choice. Now...it seems to me that you may be endorsing government force in order to make sure that people consume the product that you are endorsing here. That being the shot. What that is is just promoting the phenomenon of an industry using government in order to help these industries force their products on people in order to protect themselves from a free market. That's mercantilism.

Since many of the current vaccinations aren't even able to fend off disease I'm just going to reference them as products from now on. That's probably a better way to argue it given the development of newer technologies to approach virus.

No, no you got it all wrong! Angelatc is trying to save us money! Just eat junk and get your $30.00 shot. You'll be healthy as a hog.

[Natural Citizen]

No, no you got it all wrong! Angelatc is trying to save us money!

Probably....


Does AF have any good pieces about some of these swat teams coming into homes to force industry products on people? Maybe some that report on people who use products that are competitive with industry and so they get swatted? That'd be a hoot. Because, you know...it's for the childrens...

I edited my post before you quoted me on it though.