The United States Goyim Party

[Dr.3D]

Nope.. Jerusalem was sacked 2000 years ago. and has been inhabited by many since.(England is/was Roman Empire)

Christ has not returned yet,, he will and to that location.

The Israel that was created by the UN (all nations) in 1948 is not the Israel of scripture.

So you're saying Zechariah 14 has partially happened?

Okay... I think it's still yet to happen.

[acptulsa]

I'd hit it.

At least six of them are dogs.

[pcosmar]

So you're saying Zechariah 14 has partially happened?

Okay... I think it's still yet to happen.

There are still wars to come in that area.
WWIII will take place there.

It is my personal belief that this will lead to the AntiChrist coming to power (as a "peacemaker") and setting up a One World Government.

That War is being provoked as we speak.

[pcosmar]

So Jesus already came back? Sorry I missed it.

Daniel 2

This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.

Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.

And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.

And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

It is a done deal,, though the last has not happened yet in our time.
We are living in the feet and toes made of Iron and clay.

[Dr.3D]

Daniel 2


It is a done deal,, though the last has not happened yet in our time.
We are living in the feet and toes made of Iron and clay.

I'm not talking about the book of Daniel, I'm talking about Zechariah 14. Explain that chapter.

[phill4paul]

Go away. Nobody here hates Jews. If you want to be against real foreign control, why don't you start an anti-Chinese party?

I know a coupla Kikes I hate. O_o.

[Slave Mentality]

At least six of them are dogs.

You obviously know me from my days of debauchery. I have changed man.

[pcosmar]

I'm not talking about the book of Daniel, I'm talking about Zechariah 14. Explain that chapter.

It says what it says. Christ will return,,

There is a time lapse,, between verses. just the same as in Daniel,, and in other places where it speaks of Christs return.

There is a space of time between the sacking of Jerusalem and the return of Christ.

This was also a stumbling point of the Jews in Christs time. They expected the Messiah to be a powerful ruler (Lion of Judah) from the start, and did not recognize him as the Lamb.

[Dr.3D]

It says what it says. Christ will return,,

There is a time lapse,, between verses. just the same as in Daniel,, and in other places where it speaks of Christs return.

There is a space of time between the sacking of Jerusalem and the return of Christ.

This was also a stumbling point of the Jews in Christs time. They expected the Messiah to be a powerful ruler (Lion of Judah) from the start, and did not recognize him as the Lamb.

Well, that's where we differ. I see it as all happening in sequence on the day of the LORD.

[pcosmar]

Well, that's where we differ. I see it as all happening in sequence on the day of the LORD.

And many (non-Zionist) Jews believe that they are not to have a nation till the messiah comes.

They believe that the sacking of Jerusalem was a judgement. (it was)

and if it happens in sequence as you say where are the captives going to be taken?

and half of the city shall go forth into captivity,

Christ's return will be the end of all earthly governments.

There is a remnant left,, but not all Jews are Jews. (not all that claim to be Jews really are). Revelation 2:9, 3:9

[donnay]

Kenites: the sons of Cain, the first murderer.



John 8:44
44 Ye are of [progeny; Greek word #1537 ek (out of)] your father the devil [satan - the serpent in the Garden of Eden], and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning [Cain - Kenites], and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it [satan/serpent uttered first lie (Gen 3:4)]. (KJV)
http://www.biblestudysite.com/migrationmap.htm

[cindy25]

Go away. Nobody here hates Jews. If you want to be against real foreign control, why don't you start an anti-Chinese party?

saying something anti-Chinese will not end a political career, being anti-Israel could. I heard on one of the Sunday talk shows, either CNN or Fox, the adviser to the president call Israel the most important country

it is insane to put Israel on a level with China, India, the UK, Canada, Russia. and this is nothing new. in the old almanacs Israel always had a longer section than other far more important countries.

but this party will go nowhere

[pcosmar]

Kenites: the sons of Cain, the first murderer.

Have heard this before.. but it is incorrect.

There are no descendants of Cain. They were wiped out in the Flood.

All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

Noah was the son descendent of Seth. The offspring of Cain were wiped out.

Kenites could not have been Cain's descendents.

[pcosmar]

but this party will go nowhere

Agreed. as much as I oppose Zionism (National Socialism) it has little to do with the Jews. It is as much a curse on them as anyone else. (perhaps more so)

[jonhowe]

And the US is not even significant enough to be mentioned. It is irrelevant.

Or maybe because it didn't exist at the time and the book in question is not divinely inspired?

That's another option to consider.

[pcosmar]

Or maybe because it didn't exist at the time and the book in question is not divinely inspired?

That's another option to consider.

Considered and rejected.
I have also read the prophesy from the other side,(Lucefarian), and they predict a cataclysmic war in that area. And Lucifer's reign.
meh,, it's a plan and not a prophesy. (though many,, and powerful are trying to make it happen.)

Presently I am observing,, and watching that particular part of the world.

All these are the beginning of sorrows.

[oyarde]

Something disturbing about that .